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Priceless
11-25-2010, 01:34 PM
I'm not a Bangor resident so it isn't up to me. I don't think you are either so I doubt your opinion counts either. Who's back will it be built on anyway. Don't tell me slots, that place is history if they don't get table games like Oxford is going to have

The city council will just pick the cash off the money tree they have growing out back.

mookie1995
11-25-2010, 02:23 PM
happy thanksgiving.

walrus
11-25-2010, 05:26 PM
LOL........Did I say that my opinion counts? It is being built by Hollywood Slots revenue (which I have contributed to......much more than any Bangor taxpayer that hasn't gambled at Hollywood Slots!). HS is getting table games......guaranteed! Why are you so negative about everything?

P.S. - Stall ball may have worked for Bob Cimbolek at John Bapst........but it ain't gonna work this time! He needs to get a new hobby.

The 10 million they have so far is a far cry from 50 or 60 million they need. Are they gonna wait until they have the 50 or 60 million or are they going to finance it?

sandiegoblkbr
11-25-2010, 06:40 PM
The 10 million they have so far is a far cry from 50 or 60 million they need. Are they gonna wait until they have the 50 or 60 million or are they going to finance it?

Finance it. I hear that rates are pretty good right now.

walrus
11-25-2010, 06:42 PM
Finance it. I hear that rates are pretty good right now.

That means the taxpayers are going to take a hit, we'll see what happens in the next few months

sandiegoblkbr
11-25-2010, 10:50 PM
That means the taxpayers are going to take a hit, we'll see what happens in the next few months

Maybe it is just better if they never build anything in Maine ever again.......then the entire state can go on welfare and the Feds can pick up the tab.

I just don't see any good ideas out there.....and when something positive comes along.......it is shot down by those oh-so-positive Mainers with nothing better to do than complain........ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Money could grow on every tree in the state.....and Mainers would find some way to eff it up.

*YAWN*

Fishman'81
11-26-2010, 12:52 AM
In reality, Bangor is probably too, far away. More travel costs for both teams and fans don't make it very attractive. Even though I think the arena would be filled, unlike Albany.

I agree that Bangor is just too much of a ya-can't-get-there-from-here destination...But I disagree with the notion that they would sell more tix than the 7-8K they sell in Albany,even if Maine was playing there.(Those packages cost,what,$80 for three games..?Casual fans just won't pony up that kind of dough in large numbers,especially in greater Bangor.)And,if Maine isn't in the NCAA's,a Bangor regional would be a total disaster,IMO.I doubt they could get 2,000 people to attend.

No way the NC$$ is gonna place a regional in north/central Maine.It just doesn't make cents.

sandiegoblkbr
11-26-2010, 12:55 AM
I agree that Bangor is just too much of a ya-can't-get-there-from-here destination...But I disagree with the notion that they would sell more tix than the 7-8K they sell in Albany,even if Maine was playing there.(Those packages cost,what,$80 for three games..?Casual fans just won't pony up that kind of dough in large numbers,especially in greater Bangor.)And,if Maine isn't in the NCAA's,a Bangor regional would be a total disaster,IMO.I doubt they could get 2,000 people to attend.

No way the NC$$ is gonna place a regional in north/central Maine.It just doesn't make cents.

You're right......it will NEVER happen. This new facility will only seat 5,800 and more importantly NOT HAVE ICE. So maybe all of this arena/NCAA Regional in Bangor talk just needs to die on this forum because it's all a moot point.

Ma#1ne Hky
11-26-2010, 03:20 AM
I agree that Bangor is just too much of a ya-can't-get-there-from-here destination...But I disagree with the notion that they would sell more tix than the 7-8K they sell in Albany,even if Maine was playing there.(Those packages cost,what,$80 for three games..?Casual fans just won't pony up that kind of dough in large numbers,especially in greater Bangor.)And,if Maine isn't in the NCAA's,a Bangor regional would be a total disaster,IMO.I doubt they could get 2,000 people to attend.

No way the NC$$ is gonna place a regional in north/central Maine.It just doesn't make cents. Regionals held in Albany never have 7-8k for there games,well 7-8k if you count the whole weekend...your lucky to get 4500 per game,and maybe 4800 IF Maine is there...I've been there before and the rink is empty...like alot of other Regional sites...you are right on the price part....between $25-$30 per day and say a $45 ticket for both days would put more fanny's in the rink....but the NCAA does not care about that or the Hockey part....imo. With that said,sounds more like hot-air coming out of that Bangor proposed Project..[again]..If there ever is going to be a Regional in Maine it will be in Portland...IF & When they would build a NEW Arena there....will that happen...go back to hot-air Bangor comment. So Maine Hockey fans get use to travling out of State to watch Maine in the NCAA's for a good time coming...

walrus
11-26-2010, 05:45 AM
Maybe it is just better if they never build anything in Maine ever again.......then the entire state can go on welfare and the Feds can pick up the tab.

I just don't see any good ideas out there.....and when something positive comes along.......it is shot down by those oh-so-positive Mainers with nothing better to do than complain........ABOUT EVERYTHING.

Money could grow on every tree in the state.....and Mainers would find some way to eff it up.

*YAWN*
YAWN, is right

KnowItAll
11-26-2010, 08:36 AM
The city council will just pick the cash off the money tree they have growing out back.

or they could just print it... naaah, nobody would would just print currency, can you imagine the long-term effects?

maybe they could loan the money to a corporation and then tell the corporation that they have to pay the money back, but the corporation did not have to pay its next $90 Billion in corporate taxes.... nahhh, can you imagine the long-term effects?

MEbear
11-26-2010, 08:58 AM
Good god........another negative nellie that thinks that this facility is being built on the backs of the Bangor taxpayer. Enough with the petition drives.......it's time for the majority to get their way.......for a change!

Actually, if it's built by the city of Bangor, it's the Bangor taxpayer who WILL be on the hook for making the payments on it. Hollywood Slots hasn't been generating enough revenue to the city to begin to pay for a big project like this. Even if you're right that they get table games at HS, we still don't know how much of a contribution to the city or to this project will result from that, especially if other casino's are approved in Maine in the future that take business away from HS. Lots of unknowns there, especially when you extend them to out to the duration of the mortgage. In 10 years, HS may be a full service casino, or just a hotel along the river with NO gambling, who knows? Ultimately, Bangor taxpayers know they will be responsible, with maybe a lot of help from Hollywood Slots, and maybe not so much help from Hollywood Slots. If it goes to referendum so the majority of voters determine this question, they will get their way and that means it won't be built. In either case, since there is no ice even in the plans, who cares?

Ma#1ne Hky
11-26-2010, 01:00 PM
[QUOTE=MEbear;4941572]Actually, if it's built by the city of Bangor, it's the Bangor taxpayer who WILL be on the hook for making the payments on it. Hollywood Slots hasn't been generating enough revenue to the city to begin to pay for a big project like this. Even if you're right that they get table games at HS, we still don't know how much of a contribution to the city or to this project will result from that, especially if other casino's are approved in Maine in the future that take business away from HS. Lots of unknowns there, especially when you extend them to out to the duration of the mortgage. In 10 years, HS may be a full service casino, or just a hotel along the river with NO gambling, who knows? Ultimately, Bangor taxpayers know they will be responsible, with maybe a lot of help from Hollywood Slots, and maybe not so much help from Hollywood Slots. If it goes to referendum so the majority of voters determine this question, they will get their way and that means it won't be built. In either case, since there is no ice even in the plans, who cares?[/QUOTE -- The last 2 words in a nutshell.

sandiegoblkbr
11-26-2010, 01:11 PM
YAWN, is right

Yup.......YAWN. Same old, same old from a lot of you guys......and it's been happening for decades. Remind me of the last time that Maine had a somewhat healthy economy??? Oh yeah......back when the paper and manuafacturing mills were going full throttle. That ain't happening again.......and according to the negative nellies, neither are new arenas, casinos, National Parks.......did I miss anything??? Looking forward to the next Super Wal-Mart or Dunkin Donuts I guess........

sandiegoblkbr
11-26-2010, 01:13 PM
If it goes to referendum so the majority of voters determine this question, they will get their way and that means it won't be built.

Have you surveyed every voter in Bangor???

sandiegoblkbr
11-26-2010, 01:15 PM
In either case, since there is no ice even in the plans, who cares? -- The last 2 words in a nutshell.

Hate to break the news to you but this is much bigger than Maine Hockey.

walrus
11-26-2010, 01:26 PM
Hate to break the news to you but this is much bigger than Maine Hockey.

Why, because its going to create retail jobs like Wal Mart and Dunkin Donuts?

sandiegoblkbr
11-26-2010, 01:48 PM
Why, because its going to create retail jobs like Wal Mart and Dunkin Donuts?

I know better than to try and convince you of anything........"Wally(s) World"........how appropriate!

walrus
11-26-2010, 01:50 PM
I know better than to try and convince you of anything........"Wally(s) World"........how appropriate!

Because you have no valid argument is more like it. Besides I never said I was for or against it only that I thought the people of Bangor might be against it.

sandiegoblkbr
11-26-2010, 02:19 PM
Because you have no valid argument is more like it. Besides I never said I was for or against it only that I thought the people of Bangor might be against it.

"no valid argument" about what????