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gojackets
01-17-2011, 04:57 PM
1. RIT
2. River Falls
3. Gustavus
4. Elmira
5. Trinity
6. Norwich
7. Plattsburgh
8. Amherst
9. Superior
10. SNC

Plugger
01-17-2011, 06:31 PM
1. RIT
2. Norwich
3. Platts
4. UWRF
5. Amherst
6. Middlebury
7. Elmira
8. Trinity
9. Gustavus
10 Manhattanville

dontyelldad
01-17-2011, 08:58 PM
1. UWRF
2. Norwich
3. Amherst
4. Plattsburgh
5. Trinity
6. Elmira
7. Middlebury
8. Gustavus
9. Superior
10. Manhattanville

nbound
01-18-2011, 07:53 AM
Not that anybody cares :D but, going into tonight's games, here is what the current The Berry Patch Top 15 records are against teams that were at .500 or better at the time of the games.

1. RIT 9-0
2. UWRF 10-0
3. Platty 7-2
4. Trinity 7-1-3
5. Norwich 5-3
6. Elmira 7-4
7. GAC 3-2-1
8. M'Ville 5-3-1
9. Middlebury 4-3-1
10. UWS 4-3-3
11. NEC 2-2-1
12. Bowdoin 3-2-1
13. St Mary 4-3-1
14. Amherst 4-4-2
15. UWSP 3-4-1

5 4 Fighting
01-18-2011, 09:43 AM
Not that anybody cares :D but, going into tonight's games, here is what the current The Berry Patch Top 15 records are against teams that were at .500 or better at the time of the games.

1. RIT 9-0
2. UWRF 10-0
3. Platty 7-2
4. Trinity 7-1-3
5. Norwich 5-3
6. Elmira 7-4
7. GAC 3-2-1
8. M'Ville 5-3-1
9. Middlebury 4-3-1
10. UWS 4-3-3
11. NEC 2-2-1
12. Bowdoin 3-2-1
13. St Mary 4-3-1
14. Amherst 4-4-2
15. UWSP 3-4-1

I care...

chirp purp
01-18-2011, 10:55 AM
There's no question Amherst has struggled a bit in the early goings. But out of the top 10, or even top 5? I'm definitely not convinced (however biased...)

I think how well Amherst does this year will depend on how well their freshman are performing down the stretch. From Obserbear's and others' write-ups on the Amherst/Middlebury games this weekend, it seems like 1. Amherst dominated the play of both games this weekend (over another top 10 team, despite Friday's result) 2. they are having trouble scoring and 3. they need to find a way to pull a full 60 minutes together. To me, based on the results of their tough schedule this season, that all points to a lot of talent playing without a lot of composure. This [part is purely speculative] is likely a result of a huge freshman class that needs to come into its own.

As someone else already pointed out, 2 of their losses are to #1 RIT. Not sure if many recall, but in 2009 when Amherst went on to win their first title, they badly lost two games to RIT in the Rochester barn. I believe in the two teams' history they've only won a single game at RIT, and that was in the first round of NCAAs the year that Amherst emerged as a contender. Outside of that game, it seems that whenever they head over to Ritter they get knocked around and dont adjust well to the physical play. Their (I believe only?) other wins over this year's #1 team came in a double header at home last year, in a season in which Amherst went on to dominate in the NCAAs.

Amherst has a lot of players back with playoff experience, experience that goes deep into the NCAA tournament. If they can pull it together down the stretch (and that includes getting the best out of their freshmen) I predict you will see them back in the title game.

But thats just me...


Come on now, you really could not find a better #5 team or # 10 team :D
Amherst is 3-3-2 against teams at .500 or better and UWSP is 2-4 against .500 or better teams Between them that's only 5 wins against the better teams:eek:

nbound
01-18-2011, 03:10 PM
Looks to be a couple games behind

PairWise Comparison: Division III Women East
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Team GP W-L-T Win% Win% Rk OWP OWP Rk OOP OOP Rk RkW-L-T RWP RWP Rk
RIT 15 15- 0- 0 1.0000 1 0.4919 15 0.5843 1 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Plattsburgh 15 12- 2- 1 0.8333 2 0.5471 9 0.5551 3 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Trinity 10 7- 1- 2 0.8000 3 0.5899 5 0.5568 2 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Norwich 12 8- 3- 1 0.7083 5 0.6290 3 0.4919 17 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Elmira 17 12- 4- 1 0.7353 4 0.5904 4 0.5508 5 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Middlebury 12 8- 3- 1 0.7083 5 0.5351 10 0.5453 6 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
New England College 12 7- 3- 2 0.6667 7 0.4447 21 0.4550 24 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Manhattanville 12 7- 4- 1 0.6250 8 0.5633 7 0.4991 12 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Bowdoin 12 7- 4- 1 0.6250 8 0.4446 22 0.4672 22 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Amherst 13 7- 4- 2 0.6154 10 0.7379 1 0.5202 8 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Massachusetts-Boston 10 6- 4- 0 0.6000 11 0.4060 24 0.4749 20 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Utica 14 8- 6- 0 0.5714 12 0.5236 12 0.4849 19 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Neumann 14 7- 5- 2 0.5714 12 0.5256 11 0.4960 14 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Oswego 11 4- 4- 3 0.5000 15 0.4699 17 0.5535 4 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Connecticut College 13 7- 6- 0 0.5385 14 0.4648 18 0.5223 7 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Salve Regina 12 5- 5- 2 0.5000 15 0.4956 14 0.4929 15 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankingsnew/#ixzz1BQJPTxHU

nbound
01-18-2011, 03:16 PM
Some discrepancies in # of games played but still interesting

PairWise Comparison: Division III Women National
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Team GP W-L-T Win% Win% Rk OWP OWP Rk OOP OOP Rk RkW-L-T RWP RWP Rk
RIT 15 15- 0- 0 1.0000 1 0.4919 25 0.5843 1 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Wisconsin-River Falls 14 13- 0- 1 0.9643 2 0.6519 3 0.5422 9 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Plattsburgh 15 12- 2- 1 0.8333 3 0.5471 15 0.5551 3 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Gustavus Adolphus 10 8- 2- 0 0.8000 4 0.5994 6 0.5438 8 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Trinity 10 7- 1- 2 0.8000 4 0.5899 8 0.5568 2 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Norwich 12 8- 3- 1 0.7083 7 0.6290 4 0.4919 29 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Elmira 17 12- 4- 1 0.7353 6 0.5904 7 0.5508 6 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Middlebury 12 8- 3- 1 0.7083 7 0.5351 17 0.5453 7 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Adrian 10 6- 2- 2 0.7000 9 0.5086 20 0.4877 31 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Wisconsin-Superior 15 9- 3- 3 0.7000 9 0.4783 30 0.4746 36 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
St. Mary's 11 6- 2- 3 0.6818 11 0.4821 28 0.4613 40 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Wisconsin-Stevens Point 14 9- 4- 1 0.6786 12 0.5651 11 0.5528 5 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
New England College 12 7- 3- 2 0.6667 13 0.4447 38 0.4550 44 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
St. Catherine 10 6- 3- 1 0.6500 14 0.4773 31 0.4612 41 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Lake Forest 14 8- 4- 2 0.6429 15 0.5721 10 0.5211 12 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Manhattanville 12 7- 4- 1 0.6250 16 0.5633 13 0.4991 22 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Bowdoin 12 7- 4- 1 0.6250 16 0.4446 39 0.4672 38 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Amherst 13 7- 4- 2 0.6154 18 0.7379 1 0.5202 13 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Wisconsin-Eau Claire 15 8- 5- 2 0.6000 19 0.4814 29 0.5131 15 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
St. Thomas 10 5- 3- 2 0.6000 19 0.5054 22 0.5093 18 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Massachusetts-Boston 10 6- 4- 0 0.6000 19 0.4060 43 0.4749 35 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Neumann 14 7- 5- 2 0.5714 22 0.5256 18 0.4960 24 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Utica 14 8- 6- 0 0.5714 22 0.5236 19 0.4849 33 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Concordia (Minn.) 15 8- 6- 1 0.5667 24 0.3438 47 0.4960 25 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Connecticut College 13 7- 6- 0 0.5385 25 0.4648 33 0.5223 11 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Concordia (Wis.) 16 8- 7- 1 0.5312 26 0.5023 23 0.5138 14 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Salve Regina 12 5- 5- 2 0.5000 27 0.4956 24 0.4929 27 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Oswego 11 4- 4- 3 0.5000 27 0.4699 32 0.5535 4 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Bethel 13 6- 6- 1 0.5000 27 0.5390 16 0.4957 26 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankingsnew/#ixzz1BQKEyx8U

PrezdeJohnson09
01-18-2011, 03:25 PM
Looks to be a couple games behind

PairWise Comparison: Division III Women East
Switch to team-by-team comparisons Click on a column header to sort by that column.
Team GP W-L-T Win% Win% Rk OWP OWP Rk OOP OOP Rk RkW-L-T RWP RWP Rk
RIT 15 15- 0- 0 1.0000 1 0.4919 15 0.5843 1 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Plattsburgh 15 12- 2- 1 0.8333 2 0.5471 9 0.5551 3 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Trinity 10 7- 1- 2 0.8000 3 0.5899 5 0.5568 2 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Norwich 12 8- 3- 1 0.7083 5 0.6290 3 0.4919 17 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Elmira 17 12- 4- 1 0.7353 4 0.5904 4 0.5508 5 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Middlebury 12 8- 3- 1 0.7083 5 0.5351 10 0.5453 6 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
New England College 12 7- 3- 2 0.6667 7 0.4447 21 0.4550 24 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Manhattanville 12 7- 4- 1 0.6250 8 0.5633 7 0.4991 12 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Bowdoin 12 7- 4- 1 0.6250 8 0.4446 22 0.4672 22 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Amherst 13 7- 4- 2 0.6154 10 0.7379 1 0.5202 8 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Massachusetts-Boston 10 6- 4- 0 0.6000 11 0.4060 24 0.4749 20 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Utica 14 8- 6- 0 0.5714 12 0.5236 12 0.4849 19 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Neumann 14 7- 5- 2 0.5714 12 0.5256 11 0.4960 14 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Oswego 11 4- 4- 3 0.5000 15 0.4699 17 0.5535 4 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Connecticut College 13 7- 6- 0 0.5385 14 0.4648 18 0.5223 7 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1
Salve Regina 12 5- 5- 2 0.5000 15 0.4956 14 0.4929 15 0- 0- 0 0.0000 1


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankingsnew/#ixzz1BQJPTxHU

No it's right on.

It doesn't count games against out of region teams and it doesn't count games against D-II or D-I schools. Those records are accurate as the NCAA will look at them that way.

nbound
01-18-2011, 03:46 PM
No it's right on.

It doesn't count games against out of region teams and it doesn't count games against D-II or D-I schools. Those records are accurate as the NCAA will look at them that way.

Thanks, I did not know that, I just thought they were a little behind for some reason

spike
01-19-2011, 10:38 AM
1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Plattsburgh
4. Norwich
5. Amherst
6. Elmira
7. Middlebury
8. Trinity
9. Gustavus
10. Manhattanville

gojackets
01-19-2011, 11:50 AM
The pairwise are just ordered by win percent right now. I don't think they will really tell us much until the NCAA rankings come out and they can start to be analyzed.

PrezdeJohnson09
01-19-2011, 03:42 PM
The pairwise are just ordered by win percent right now. I don't think they will really tell us much until the NCAA rankings come out and they can start to be analyzed.

Correct.

nbound
01-19-2011, 08:53 PM
Top 15 in the Berry Patch

1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Platty
4. Trinity
5. Norwich
6. Elmira
7. GAC
8. Middlebury
9. UWS
10. M'Ville
11. NEC
12. Bowdoin
13. Amherst
14. St. Mary
15. UWSP

nbound
01-19-2011, 08:56 PM
Fan Poll

1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Platty
4. Trinitiy
5. Norwich
6. Elmira
7. GAC
8. Middlebury
9. Amherst
10. UWS

Mania
01-21-2011, 07:27 AM
Here's mine...fan poll coming soon.

1. RIT
2. River Falls
3. Plattsburgh
4. Norwich
5. Gustavus
6. Amherst
7. Elmira
8. Middlebury
9. Trinity
10. Superior

obserbear
01-21-2011, 07:37 AM
1) RIT
2) Wisconsin-River Falls
3) Amherst
4) Plattsburgh
5) Trinity
6) Middlebury
7) Norwich
8) Elmira
9) Gustavus Adolphus
10) Manhattanville

Mania
01-21-2011, 07:39 AM
Fan Opinion Poll January 21, 2010

Rank | Team | (1st Votes) Pts | Previous Rank

1. River Falls (2) 90 2
2. RIT (8) 89 1
3. Plattsburgh 70 3
4. Norwich 67 5
5. Amherst 59 4
6. Trinity 45 7
7. Elmira 44 6
8. Gustavus 36 8
9. Middlebury 35 9
10. Manhattanville 7 10
10. Superior 7 NR

St. Norbert 1

East Top 5

Rank | Team
1. RIT
2. Plattsburgh
3. Norwich
4. Amherst
5. Trinity

West Top 5

Rank | Team
1. River Falls
2. Gustavus
3. Superior
4. St. Norbert
5. ?

EDIT: added polls from obserbear, NHDad, and PrezdeJohnson09
Note: anyone else that wants to add in their poll can do so before 12PM EST. (I'll check back then and tally any additional polls)

gojackets
01-21-2011, 08:13 AM
St. Norbert (is this SNC?) 1


yes

NHDad
01-21-2011, 10:07 AM
1) RIT
2) Wisconsin-River Falls
3) Amherst
4) Plattsburgh
5) Middlebury
6) Trinity
7) Norwich
8) Elmira
9) Gustavus Adolphus
10) Manhattanville