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msw630
01-06-2011, 07:26 PM
NBOUND... #15 Lake Forest beats #12 UWSP twice... Why do you rank UWSP ahead of Lake Forest?

gojackets
01-06-2011, 08:11 PM
NBOUND... #15 Lake Forest beats #12 UWSP twice... Why do you rank UWSP ahead of Lake Forest?

That poll has to do with overall record % and winning percent against ranked teams....its some crazy math thing that nbound has come up with...in his real poll UWSP is not even ranked

nbound
01-07-2011, 09:02 AM
While doing THE BERRY PATCH POLL, I had to do a lot of the calculating by hand:mad:. Had to use school websites for factual numbers. In looking at the USCHO schedules, (normally they are very accurate for the W-L records)I noticed they are way off base. Any idea why? Is the stats person still on semester break? Looking at standings on USCHO they are way off even for RIT, they are missing several wins.:confused::confused:

nyi19
01-07-2011, 09:31 AM
While doing THE BERRY PATCH POLL, I had to do a lot of the calculating by hand:mad:. Had to use school websites for factual numbers. In looking at the USCHO schedules, (normally they are very accurate for the W-L records)I noticed they are way off base. Any idea why? Is the stats person still on semester break? Looking at standings on USCHO they are way off even for RIT, they are missing several wins.:confused::confused:

just use collegehockeystats. stats update automatically with boxscore uploads.

4and20
01-09-2011, 02:09 PM
2010-2011 Fan Poll January 10, 2011

1. UW River Falls
2. RIT
3. Amherst
4. Norwich
5. Elmira
6. Plattsburgh
7. Gustavus
8. Trinity
9. Manhattanville
10 St. Thomas

gojackets
01-09-2011, 03:20 PM
1. RIT
2. River Falls
3. Gustavus
4. Amherst
5. Norwich
6. Plattsburgh
7. Elmira
8. Trinity
9. Superior
10. Wesleyan

Plugger
01-09-2011, 05:22 PM
It will be fun to see how Trinity does against two of the stronger western teams (GA and St Thomas) this coming weekend. Depending on how they do will certainly have an impact on the polls next week and perhaps for the rest of the year.

gojackets
01-09-2011, 05:28 PM
It will be fun to see how Trinity does against two of the stronger western teams (GA and St Thomas) this coming weekend. Depending on how they do will certainly have an impact on the polls next week and perhaps for the rest of the year.

either that or it will bring back all the same excuses we heard when Amherst traveled out 2 years ago. It is nice to see a upper level eastern team traveling out here again though.

rinky dink
01-09-2011, 05:30 PM
1. RIT
2. Platty
3. UWRF
4. Amherst
5. Elmira
6. Midd
7. Trinity
8. Norwich
9. Manhattanville
10. GA

nbound
01-09-2011, 09:25 PM
I'll have to wait till Wednesday nite for my poll. Too many big games tuesday and wednesday. UWS vs GAC, Trinity Vs Holy Cross, Utica vs Amherst and Norwich vs Platty. :)

PrezdeJohnson09
01-09-2011, 09:30 PM
1.RIT
2.River Falls
3.Plattsburgh
4.Norwich
5.Amherst
6.Elmira
7.Trinity
8.Middlebury
9.Gustavus Adolphus
10.Superior

PrezdeJohnson09
01-10-2011, 02:07 PM
USCHO.com Division III Women's Poll
Minneapolis, Minn./January 10, 2011

Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Week
1 RIT (13) 15-0-0 148 1
2 Wisconsin-River Falls ( 2) 12-0-0 134 2
3 Plattsburgh 10-1-1 117 3
4 Norwich 8-3-0 105 4
5 Amherst 6-3-2 87 5
6 Elmira 10-4-1 62 6
7 Gustavus Adolphus 7-2-0 61 8
8 Trinity 8-1-2 47 9
9 Middlebury 7-2-1 39 6
10 Manhattanville 9-4-1 8 NR

Others Receiving Votes: St. Thomas 6, Wisconsin-Stevens Point 5,
Lake Forest 4, Wisconsin-Superior 2

obserbear
01-10-2011, 02:13 PM
1) RIT
2) Wisconsin-River Falls
3) Amherst
4) Plattsburgh
5) Trinity
6) Norwich
7) Elmira
8) Middlebury
9) Gustavus Adolphus
10) Manhattanville

pucko
01-10-2011, 03:16 PM
USCHO.com Division III Women's Poll
Minneapolis, Minn./January 10, 2011

Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Week
1 RIT (13) 15-0-0 148 1
2 Wisconsin-River Falls ( 2) 12-0-0 134 2
3 Plattsburgh 10-1-1 117 3
4 Norwich 8-3-0 105 4
5 Amherst 6-3-2 87 5
6 Elmira 10-4-1 62 6
7 Gustavus Adolphus 7-2-0 61 8
8 Trinity 8-1-2 47 9
9 Middlebury 7-2-1 39 6
10 Manhattanville 9-4-1 8 NR

Others Receiving Votes: St. Thomas 6, Wisconsin-Stevens Point 5,
Lake Forest 4, Wisconsin-Superior 2



I'm going to reiterate until I'm blue in the face. Lake Forest beat UWSP TWICE - both times when they were ranked. Manhattanville has only beaten one ranked team, Elmira, and also has a loss to NEC who is not ranked. Lake Forest has 2 losses to the #2 team in the country and one loss to St. Norbert who is also not ranked. And above all of this, the people who voted this week STILL picked UWSP - who lost twice to the Foresters- above Lake Forest. And somehow, picked St. Thomas over UWSP who they lost to as well. The rankings are ridiculous. Let's let a few east coast coaches decide who they want in the NCAA playoffs and just be done with it.

obserbear
01-10-2011, 03:45 PM
I'm going to reiterate until I'm blue in the face. Lake Forest beat UWSP TWICE - both times when they were ranked. Manhattanville has only beaten one ranked team, Elmira, and also has a loss to NEC who is not ranked. Lake Forest has 2 losses to the #2 team in the country and one loss to St. Norbert who is also not ranked. And above all of this, the people who voted this week STILL picked UWSP - who lost twice to the Foresters- above Lake Forest. And somehow, picked St. Thomas over UWSP who they lost to as well. The rankings are ridiculous. Let's let a few east coast coaches decide who they want in the NCAA playoffs and just be done with it.

There are 15 people voting in the USCHO Women's DIII poll and it awards 1 point for each #10 vote, so what you are upset about is the fact that Lake Forest was on 4 (presumably #10) ballots and Wisconsin-Stevens Point is on 5 ballots. Someone has to be ranked #10 and there just seems to be a total lack of consensus on who they are. What has this to do with eastern coaches selecting the NC$$ field? Have you submitted a fan opinion poll? You can really skew the results on the fan poll by leaving Manhattanville or Stevens Point off your poll and ranking Lake Forest #1.

gojackets
01-10-2011, 03:50 PM
Why can't they figure out how to put River Falls 2 first place votes on there? Does it hurt that bad that the two western voters are ranking them #1, that they just can't put it there? I think thats what pucko is getting at. Only 2 of the voters are from the west...and the eastern coaches clearly don't give a rat's patootie about western results.

nbound
01-10-2011, 05:23 PM
I'm going to reiterate until I'm blue in the face. Lake Forest beat UWSP TWICE - both times when they were ranked. Manhattanville has only beaten one ranked team, Elmira, and also has a loss to NEC who is not ranked. Lake Forest has 2 losses to the #2 team in the country and one loss to St. Norbert who is also not ranked. And above all of this, the people who voted this week STILL picked UWSP - who lost twice to the Foresters- above Lake Forest. And somehow, picked St. Thomas over UWSP who they lost to as well. The rankings are ridiculous. Let's let a few east coast coaches decide who they want in the NCAA playoffs and just be done with it.

if you want to talk about western teams that are getting boned or over looked take a good look at UWS. I think we can all agree that UWRF is the best in the west right now.
GAC is arguably #2. UWS has a .750 overall winning percentage and have had 7 games against teams that were at .500 or better at the time of the games. They are 3-2-2 against those teams(.571) and are currently tied for 1st place in the NCHA with 16 pts They have a huge matchup against GAC this week.

gojackets
01-10-2011, 06:32 PM
if you want to talk about western teams that are getting boned or over looked take a good look at UWS. I think we can all agree that UWRF is the best in the west right now.
GAC is arguably #2. UWS has a .750 overall winning percentage and have had 7 games against teams that were at .500 or better at the time of the games. They are 3-2-2 against those teams(.571) and are currently tied for 1st place in the NCHA with 16 pts They have a huge matchup against GAC this week.

UWS has a really tough stretch comin up 6 games in the next two weeks all on the road...they get through that with at least 4 wins and I'll be ready to start complaining that they should be in the top 10...until then I don't think they should be there...but then again...after like # 6 up to say #13 is a crapshoot

PrezdeJohnson09
01-10-2011, 06:52 PM
I voted Superior 10th in my poll if anyone cares :)

gojackets
01-10-2011, 06:53 PM
I voted Superior 10th in my poll if anyone cares :)

haha I saw that!