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4and20
01-04-2011, 11:18 AM
2010-2011 Fan Poll January 3, 2011

1. UW River Falls
2. RIT
3. Plattsburgh
4. Elmira
5. Norwich
6. Gustavus
7. Amherst
8. Trinity
9. Manhattanville
10 Middlebury

obserbear
01-04-2011, 03:00 PM
1) RIT
2) Wisconsin-River Falls
3) Amherst
4) Plattsburgh
5) Trinity
6) Norwich
7) Elmira
8) Middlebury
9) Gustavus Adolphus
10) Wisconsin-Stevens Point

rinky dink
01-04-2011, 03:19 PM
1)RIT
2) Wisconsin-River Falls
3) Amherst
4) Plattsburgh
5) Trinity
6) Norwich
7) Elmira
8) Middlebury
9) Manhattanville
10) Gustavus

I canít disagree with Obserbear on the 1st 8, it is completely logical. While I do not know that much about the West, both St. Marys and St. Kates seemed to have been handled by some average Eastern teams, so while I do not want to start fireworks of east versus west, those two teams seemed to have been cruising through the western teams, but struggled with these east teams. That is the reasoning why I put Manhattanville in. Donít know if this is right or wrong, just my opinion.

on2thinice
01-04-2011, 07:34 PM
Check out the Massey NCAA woman's college hockey ratings link below.

Buttons at the top of the page:
group1 is D-I and D-III combined (RIT is ranked 7th)
NCAA I is D-I only
NCAA III is D-III only

http://masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=chw

valiantfan08
01-04-2011, 08:01 PM
1 RIT-WOW
2 UWRF-Pretty **** impressive
3 Platty-Dangerous
4 Norwich-Looks explosive at times
5 Amherst-Still very good but has some losses
6 Elmira-Somehow always find a way
7 Trinity-Sleeper Nescac team
8 Midd-questions to be answered when they play the top dogs
9 Gustavus-still my pick out west
10 MVille-impressive wins vs Elmira,Holy Cross,St A's + 3 one goal losses.

Top 4 right now are locked up. 5,6,7 are interchangeable and I believe that 8 & 10 are better than any teams out west (sorry west supporters) in that next tier.

gojackets
01-04-2011, 11:50 PM
Check out the Massey NCAA woman's college hockey ratings link below.

Buttons at the top of the page:
group1 is D-I and D-III combined (RIT is ranked 7th)
NCAA I is D-I only
NCAA III is D-III only

http://masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=chw

Just out of curiosity..RIT is #1 with a rating of 1.46 and Platty #2 with a rating of .77. Why is there such a huge difference between them?

LtPowers
01-05-2011, 08:47 AM
Just out of curiosity..RIT is #1 with a rating of 1.46 and Platty #2 with a rating of .77. Why is there such a huge difference between them?

Looking at the numbers, RIT has Platty beat on every measure listed in the table except total strength of schedule (as opposed of schedule to date, which RIT wins).


Powers &8^]

spike
01-05-2011, 12:15 PM
1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Amherst
4. Plattsburgh
5. Norwich
6. Elmira
7. Trinity
7. Middlebury
9. Gustavus
10. Lake Forest

PrezdeJohnson09
01-05-2011, 12:18 PM
1.RIT
2.River Falls
3.Plattsburgh
4.Norwich
5.Amherst
6.Elmira
7.Trinity
8.Middlebury
9.Gustavus Adolphus
10.Lake Forest

gojackets
01-05-2011, 12:20 PM
1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Plattsburgh
4. Amherst
5. Gustavus
6. Elmira
7. Trinity
8. Norwich
9. Lake Forest
10. Middlebury

nyi19
01-05-2011, 01:14 PM
As I have also been trying to not comment on fan opinion polls this year, I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around people ranking a 4-3-2 team ahead of a 9-1-1 team when they tied in the head-to-head. But that's just me.

PrezdeJohnson09
01-05-2011, 01:50 PM
As I have also been trying to not comment on fan opinion polls this year, I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around people ranking a 4-3-2 team ahead of a 9-1-1 team when they tied in the head-to-head. But that's just me.

They're all Islander fans. :)

nyi19
01-05-2011, 02:08 PM
They're all Islander fans. :)

I'm fairly certain I'm the lone soldier standing in that boat lol

PrezdeJohnson09
01-05-2011, 02:13 PM
I'm fairly certain I'm the lone soldier standing in that boat lol

I've met two others in my lifetime, which makes up about 50 percent of the fan base.

nbound
01-06-2011, 12:20 PM
BERRY PATCH TOP 15:D

1 RIT
2 UWRF
3 Platts
4 Trinity
5 Holy Cross
6 Adrian
7 Middlebury
8 M'Ville
9 Bowdoin
10 Elmira
11 UWS
12 UWSP
13 GAC
14 St Mary
15 Lake Forest

nbound
01-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Fan Poll

1 RIT
2 UWRF
3 Platty
4 Trinity
5 Holy Cross
6 Midd
7 Elmira
8 Adrian
9 M'Ville
10 Bowdoin

obserbear
01-06-2011, 03:20 PM
Fan Poll

1 RIT
2 UWRF
3 Platty
4 Trinity
5 Holy Cross
6 Midd
7 Elmira
8 Adrian
9 M'Ville
10 Bowdoin

I understand this is an opinion poll, but having seen Amherst beat your #7 and tie your #3 (on their home ice) how is it your opinion of the Lord Jeffs is so low as to leave them out of the top 10? I would love to see Bowdoin back in the top 10, but I watched a bit of their lack-luster effort against New England College last evening and I am afraid they have some tough sledding when they face the NESCAC heavy weights in the coming weeks.

nbound
01-06-2011, 03:33 PM
I understand this is an opinion poll, but having seen Amherst beat your #7 and tie your #3 (on their home ice) how is it your opinion of the Lord Jeffs is so low as to leave them out of the top 10? I would love to see Bowdoin back in the top 10, but I watched a bit of their lack-luster effort against New England College last evening and I am afraid they have some tough sledding when they face the NESCAC heavy weights in the coming weeks.
I guess I just think that a team that that is 4-3-2 (.555) does not belong in the top 10. against .500 or better teams they are 2-3-2, overall 4-3-2 As you said it's just an opinion. When teams face the heavy weights and lose they'll drop in the polls. Even UWSP at 8-2 has fallen out of my top ten, for now they are still in the Berry Patch Top 15

nyi19
01-06-2011, 05:22 PM
I understand this is an opinion poll, but having seen Amherst beat your #7 and tie your #3 (on their home ice) how is it your opinion of the Lord Jeffs is so low as to leave them out of the top 10? I would love to see Bowdoin back in the top 10, but I watched a bit of their lack-luster effort against New England College last evening and I am afraid they have some tough sledding when they face the NESCAC heavy weights in the coming weeks.

Is the home ice the whole reason for your ranking Amherst higher than Platty (aside from your love for the NESCAC), despite the fact that Platty is 2-1-0 against the same opponents that Amherst is 1-1-0 against? Realizing that comes from Elmira playing Platty twice, they still beat Norwich, too. I'm not really understanding how a one-loss team is lower than a 3-loss team, unless we are feeling bad because Amherst has played mostly road games, of course.

obserbear
01-06-2011, 07:15 PM
I'm not really understanding how a one-loss team is lower than a 3-loss team, unless we are feeling bad because Amherst has played mostly road games, of course.

You raise a valid point and I respect your opinion. I've seen both teams play several times and it is my opinion Amherst is a better team. They have made some adjustment in their D pairings and after Hu's performance last weekend I am comfortable ranking them #2.
My question for nbound concerned how he excluded them from his top 10 when they are ranked 5th by the USCHO Coaches poll, 8th by KRACH (with the #1 by miles SOS), and 4th by lakersfan's Rutter model? Not to mention the Bowdoin #10 (with losses to Midd, Hamilton, UMB and last night's tie with NEC)?
I do follow the NESCAC, but have managed to get out to Pine Valley for the Manhattanville games, up to Northfield for their season opening tournament and their win over Amherst and to Plattsburgh for their loss to Elmira. I have no daughters playing the game and hope I manage to stay objective, NESCAC kool-aide notwithstanding...