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spike
12-13-2010, 08:24 AM
1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Middlebury
4. Plattsburgh
5. Norwich
6. Amherst
7. Trinity
8. UWSP
9. Elmira
10. Gustavus

Mania
12-13-2010, 09:01 AM
1. RIT
2. River Falls
3. Plattsburgh
4. Norwich
5. Amherst
6. Middlebury
7. Stevens Point
8. Elmira
9. Gustavus
10. Trinity

nbound
12-13-2010, 09:31 AM
BERRY PATCH TOP 15

1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Middlebury
4. Platty
5. Adrian
6. St Mary
7. Holy Cross
8. UWSP
9. Trinity
10 UWS
11 Bowdoin
12 Elmira
13 M'Ville
14 GAC
15 Norwich

One thing for certain....There's a lot of good teams in D3 women's hockey

nbound
12-13-2010, 09:38 AM
FAN POLL

1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Middlebury
4. Platty
5. Holy cross
6. UWSP
7. Triinity
8. Elmira
9. UWS
10. GAC


TOP 5 EAST

1. RIT
2. Midd
3. Platty
4. Holy Cross
5. Trinitiy


TOP 5 WEST

1. UWRF
2. UWSP
3. GAC
4. UWS
5. ADRIAN

Plugger
12-13-2010, 09:56 AM
1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Middlebury
4. Plattsburgh
5. Norwich
6. Amherst
7. Trinity
8. UWSP
9. Elmira
10. GA

PrezdeJohnson09
12-13-2010, 10:29 AM
1.RIT
2.River Falls
3.Plattsburgh
4.Norwich
5.Middlebury
6.Amherst
7.Elmira
8.Trinity
9.Gustavus Adolphus
10.Stevens Point

nyi19
12-13-2010, 11:02 AM
1.RIT
2.River Falls
3.Plattsburgh
4.Norwich
5.Middlebury
6.Amherst
7.Elmira
8.Trinity
9.Gustavus Adolphus
10.Stevens Point



Agreed.

obserbear
12-13-2010, 12:01 PM
I think almost everyone agrees on the top 2 and probably 9 and 10, but sorting out 3-8 is tricky at best. Norwich lost to Plattsburgh and Trinity but beat Amherst who had beaten Trinity decisively and then tied them; Elmira lost to Norwich, who lost to Plattsburgh and Trinity and were then beaten by Elmira; Midd is 6-0, but has yet to play any of the big guns. This weekend I saw Norwich twice and Elmira, Plattsburgh, Trinity and Amherst once each. Norwich probably skates the best team right now. I am less afraid of Plattsburgh and more respectful of Trinity and Elmira; Amherst is an enigma. The New Year's tournament in Plattsburgh should be worth the trip!
1) RIT
2) Wisconsin-River Falls
3) Plattsburgh
4) Norwich
5) Amherst
6) Trinity
7) Middlebury
8) Elmira
9) Gustavus Adolphus
10) Wisconsin-Stevens Point

PrezdeJohnson09
12-13-2010, 12:42 PM
USCHO.com Division III Women's Poll
Minneapolis, Minn./December 13, 2010

Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Week
1 RIT (13) 13-0-0 148 1
2 Wisconsin-River Falls ( 2) 10-0-0 130 3
3 Plattsburgh 8-1-0 117 2
4 Middlebury 6-0-0 95 6
5 Norwich 8-3-0 89 5
6 Amherst 3-3-1 58 4
7 Gustavus Adolphus 7-2-0 54 7
7 Trinity 5-1-1 54 8
9 Elmira 8-3-1 52 9
10 Wisconsin-Stevens Point 8-1-0 17 10

Others Receiving Votes: Lake Forest 8, Manhattanville 1,
St. Thomas 1, Wisconsin-Superior 1

The USCHO.com Poll is compiled weekly and consists of 15 voters, including 14 coaches of Division III programs and one women's hockey writer. USCHO.com provides in-depth coverage of college hockey.

BdogsRock
12-13-2010, 12:46 PM
I think almost everyone agrees on the top 2 and probably 9 and 10, but sorting out 3-8 is tricky at best. Norwich lost to Plattsburgh and Trinity but beat Amherst who had beaten Trinity decisively and then tied them; Elmira lost to Norwich, who lost to Plattsburgh and Trinity and were then beaten by Elmira; Midd is 6-0, but has yet to play any of the big guns. This weekend I saw Norwich twice and Elmira, Plattsburgh, Trinity and Amherst once each. Norwich probably skates the best team right now. I am less afraid of Plattsburgh and more respectful of Trinity and Elmira; Amherst is an enigma. The New Year's tournament in Plattsburgh should be worth the trip!
1) RIT
2) Wisconsin-River Falls
3) Plattsburgh
4) Norwich
5) Amherst
6) Trinity
7) Middlebury
8) Elmira
9) Gustavus Adolphus
10) Wisconsin-Stevens Point

Actually, I don't agree with Point being ranked and I don't understand why everyone is ranking them - they lost to Lake Forest and got outshot 2:1. From what I heard, Lake Forest dominated the game. And Lake Forest has two losses - against River Falls who is a top team in the country. All the teams that are ranked should have losses to ONLY ranked teams - so that should throw Gustavus out of the mix with their St. Thomas loss. Lets be consistent in how we rank teams.

obserbear
12-13-2010, 01:16 PM
Actually, I don't agree with Point being ranked and I don't understand why everyone is ranking them - they lost to Lake Forest and got outshot 2:1. From what I heard, Lake Forest dominated the game. And Lake Forest has two losses - against River Falls who is a top team in the country. All the teams that are ranked should have losses to ONLY ranked teams - so that should throw Gustavus out of the mix with their St. Thomas loss. Lets be consistent in how we rank teams.
Have you posted a poll? I gather you feel Lake Forest deserves to be ranked, but what other western team are you adding in here?

LtPowers
12-13-2010, 01:39 PM
All the teams that are ranked should have losses to ONLY ranked teams

Mathematically, that's not always possible. Consider two teams that have only lost to each other -- which one do you rank tenth and which gets left off?


Powers &8^]

D2D
12-13-2010, 01:45 PM
Mathematically, that's not always possible. Consider two teams that have only lost to each other -- which one do you rank tenth and which gets left off?


Powers &8^]

Not to mention that it rewards teams with the softest schedules, i.e. if you don't play them you can't lose to them...

AND, if D1 were to follow this approach, NO teams would be ranked!

BdogsRock
12-13-2010, 01:48 PM
I'm not sure there should be another Western team outside of Lake Forest because they all beat up on eachother and are very inconsistent. I would've liked to say my Bulldogs but then they go and lose to CUW! :mad:

The problem (?) with the West is that there is a huge inconsistency within play. It seems like the Eastern teams that are good stay good and don't drop bad games. Again, just my opinion, I'm sure and I know it's happened. But based on the last few years, the top Eastern teams rarely lose to an unranked team. So far this year, the top Western teams have dropped games to unranked teams like St. Thomas, Oswego, CUW, Lake Forest .... I don't know if that means there's more parity in the West or the Eastern teams are better equipped at handling pressure and staying consistent.

I'd prefer to do my poll East and West.

East:
1. RIT
2. Plattsburgh
3. Norwich
4. Amherst
5. Middlebury
6. Trinity
7. Elmira
8. Manhattanville (interchangeable with #9)
9. NEC (interchangeable with #8)
10. Hamilton/Bowdoin

West:
1. UWRF
2. Lake Forest
3. Gustavus
4. UWSP
5. UW-Superior
6. Adrian
7. UW-Eau Claire
8. St. Kate's
9. St. Mary's
10. St. Thomas

spike
12-13-2010, 02:42 PM
I'm not sure there should be another Western team outside of Lake Forest because they all beat up on eachother and are very inconsistent. I would've liked to say my Bulldogs but then they go and lose to CUW! :mad:

The problem (?) with the West is that there is a huge inconsistency within play. It seems like the Eastern teams that are good stay good and don't drop bad games. Again, just my opinion, I'm sure and I know it's happened. But based on the last few years, the top Eastern teams rarely lose to an unranked team. So far this year, the top Western teams have dropped games to unranked teams like St. Thomas, Oswego, CUW, Lake Forest .... I don't know if that means there's more parity in the West or the Eastern teams are better equipped at handling pressure and staying consistent.

I'd prefer to do my poll East and West.

East:
1. RIT
2. Plattsburgh
3. Norwich
4. Amherst
5. Middlebury
6. Trinity
7. Elmira
8. Manhattanville (interchangeable with #9)
9. NEC (interchangeable with #8)
10. Hamilton/Bowdoin

West:
1. UWRF
2. Lake Forest
3. Gustavus
4. UWSP
5. UW-Superior
6. Adrian
7. UW-Eau Claire
8. St. Kate's
9. St. Mary's
10. St. Thomas

Clearly the Western teams beating up on each other last year contributed to the 5-2 split, even with a Western host. However, given what has transpired so far out East, how can you fault the West for everyone beating everyone when the same thing IS happening this year out East?

nyi19
12-13-2010, 03:45 PM
Clearly the Western teams beating up on each other last year contributed to the 5-2 split, even with a Western host. However, given what has transpired so far out East, how can you fault the West for everyone beating everyone when the same thing IS happening this year out East?

I think the point was that the East's top teams are beating up on each other, not dropping games to unranked teams.

4and20
12-13-2010, 06:59 PM
2010-2011 Fan Poll December 13, 2010

1. UW River Falls
2. RIT
3. Plattsburgh
4. Elmira
5. Norwich
6. Gustavus
7. Amherst
8. Trinity
9. Lake Forest
10 Middlebury

rinky dink
12-13-2010, 07:18 PM
1. RIT
2. Middlebury
3. Plattsburgh
4. Norwich
5. UWRF
6. Amherst
7. Trinity
8. Elmira
9. UWSP
10. GA

Phil D. Stands
12-13-2010, 09:10 PM
1. RIT
2. UWRF
3. Norwich
4. Amherst
5. Platty
6. Trinity
7. Elmira
8. Middlebury
9. Lake Forest
10. UWSP

gojackets
12-13-2010, 09:52 PM
The problem (?) with the West is that there is a huge inconsistency within play. It seems like the Eastern teams that are good stay good and don't drop bad games. Again, just my opinion, I'm sure and I know it's happened. But based on the last few years, the top Eastern teams rarely lose to an unranked team. So far this year, the top Western teams have dropped games to unranked teams like St. Thomas, Oswego, CUW, Lake Forest .... I don't know if that means there's more parity in the West or the Eastern teams are better equipped at handling pressure and staying consistent.


2 of the 4 you listed were Adrian's losses. Lake Forest is hardly a push over team that will probably be ranked again sometime soon. If you know anything about the Gustavus/St Thomas history...that split isn't hard to fathom.

As far as Eastern "powers" not losing to unranked teams.
Elmira also tied Oswego. Manhattanville just tied Neumann. Elmira barely got by Utica. Manhattanville lost to NEC, Elmira lost to unranked manhattanville,

You see a pattern here :)