Women's DIII 2010-2011 Fan Opinion Poll

[nyi19]

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I really don't see the justification for Elmira being in the poll at this point in time. Their losses were to ranked teams, but they also tie Oswego..who just tied Cortland twice.

History would show that ties don't affect teams as much as we might think they should compared to losses in this poll...if you tie you're given the benefit of the doubt. The fact that the NESCAC hasn't played yet is also affecting the poll a bit I think.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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I really don't see the justification for Elmira being in the poll at this point in time. Their losses were to ranked teams, but they also tie Oswego..who just tied Cortland twice.

They just split with Manhattanville.

Personally I didn't have them in. But, I can see why they are still getting votes. It's Elmira. It's going to take a drastic event for them to drop out of the poll. Same thing for Middlebury and Plattsburgh.

Amherst, RIT, and Gustavus Adolphus are probably in that boat too now.

[nyi19]

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They just split with Manhattanville.

Personally I didn't have them in. But, I can see why they are still getting votes. It's Elmira. It's going to take a drastic event for them to drop out of the poll. Same thing for Middlebury and Plattsburgh.

Amherst, RIT, and Gustavus Adolphus are probably in that boat too now.

Agreed. I think we saw that in the fact that the Plattsburgh men are still ranked this week Some teams just get respect, deservedly so or not.

[spike]

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such an assanine discussion. Why should should RIT be 2 and Plattsburgh 3? There aren't enough comparitive results at this point to make that justification. I think River Falls is going to win the NCHA and probably make waves in the Frozen Four this year...just throwin that out there...meaning I predict our first western champion.

I can live with being called assanine, as long as you didn't mean to call me assinine. At this stage RIT belongs in front of Platty based on their quality win over Norwich while Platty has played no quality opponents. My point was that you can compare RIT and Platty, but how can you compare UWRF and Norwich?

[gojackets]

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I can live with being called assanine, as long as you didn't mean to call me assinine. At this stage RIT belongs in front of Platty based on their quality win over Norwich while Platty has played no quality opponents. My point was that you can compare RIT and Platty, but how can you compare UWRF and Norwich?

I called the discussion assanine. My point is that with no comparitive results its impossible to say that RIT is better than Plattsburgh or vice versa. They have no common opponents or anything to judge that on. The same way you can't compare Norwich and River Falls. I understand the difficulty in ranking the teams, but to blindly say that the east trumps the western teams constantly is the assanine part of the discussion. You folks will always feel that way, until in a one and done situation 600 miles from home a top western team beats the best two eastern teams on consecutive nights in March. I get that.

Along the same lines why are there any non-WCHA teams even ranked in the D1 women's poll then?

The D1 women's poll should read
WI
UMD
MN
ND
Bemidji
Ohio State
St Cloud
MNSU
Cornell
Mercyhurst

Just because we have struggles at the FF doesn't mean the west teams are inferior to the east.

[spike]

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I called the discussion assanine. My point is that with no comparitive results its impossible to say that RIT is better than Plattsburgh or vice versa. They have no common opponents or anything to judge that on. The same way you can't compare Norwich and River Falls. I understand the difficulty in ranking the teams, but to blindly say that the east trumps the western teams constantly is the assanine part of the discussion. You folks will always feel that way, until in a one and done situation 600 miles from home a top western team beats the best two eastern teams on consecutive nights in March. I get that.

Along the same lines why are there any non-WCHA teams even ranked in the D1 women's poll then?

The D1 women's poll should read
WI
UMD
MN
ND
Bemidji
Ohio State
St Cloud
MNSU
Cornell
Mercyhurst

Just because we have struggles at the FF doesn't mean the west teams are inferior to the east.

Sorry, I'm still not buying it. If us "Easterners" suggested that Utica or Colby should rank ahead of Western teams then your analogy to DI might hold water. All I suggested was that ranking UWRF ahead of Norwich requires comparisons that don't exist, and I think you agreed with me. Ergo, we should do separate regional polls. Perhaps its too early in the season to compare Platty and Norwich since they haven't played any common opponents, but within a couple of weeks most of the Eastern powers will have common opponent games to draw inferences from. However, no matter how far into the season we go, we will never have sufficient data on inter-regional teams.

[Mania]

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1. Plattsburgh
2. RIT
3. Gustavus
4. Norwich
5. River Falls
6. Elmira
7. Manhattanville
8. Lake Forrest
9. Stevens Point
10. Neumann

[spike]

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1. Amherst
2. RIT
3. Plattsburgh
4. Norwich
5. UWRF
6. Middlebury
7. Gustavus
8. UWSP
9. Manhattanville
10. Trinity

[Plugger]

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I called the discussion assanine. My point is that with no comparitive results its impossible to say that RIT is better than Plattsburgh or vice versa. They have no common opponents or anything to judge that on. The same way you can't compare Norwich and River Falls. I understand the difficulty in ranking the teams, but to blindly say that the east trumps the western teams constantly is the assanine part of the discussion. You folks will always feel that way, until in a one and done situation 600 miles from home a top western team beats the best two eastern teams on consecutive nights in March. I get that.

Along the same lines why are there any non-WCHA teams even ranked in the D1 women's poll then?

The D1 women's poll should read
WI
UMD
MN
ND
Bemidji
Ohio State
St Cloud
MNSU
Cornell
Mercyhurst

Just because we have struggles at the FF doesn't mean the west teams are inferior to the east.

Your D1 poll is nowhere near what both the USCHO and USA Today polls show. Both polls list 5 East teams and 5 West teams in the top 10. Yet the USCHO poll for D3 Womens only lists 2 West teams compared to 8 East teams. Unfortunately the USA Today does not list D3 Womens teams.

Your D1 list seems off from what people who coach and follow the D1 Womens Hockey. Perhaps you were just over exaggerating to make a point.

[nbound]

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1. Platty
2. RIT
3. UWRF
4. GAC
5. UWSP
6. Lake Forest
7. Norwich
8. Holy Cross
9. UWS
10. M'Ville

[nbound]

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Top 15 BERRY PATCH POLL
combined averages of games against .500 or better opponents and overall winning %

1. Platty 1.000
2. RIT 1.000
3. UWRF 1.000
4. Holy Cross .900
5. Norbets .785
6. UWS .743
7. M'Ville .733
8. St Mary .708
9. Norwich .6665
10 St Kate .625
11. UWEC .600
12. Conc mn ..571
13. Elmira .541
14. GAC .500
15. UWSP .500

[gojackets]

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Your D1 list seems off from what people who coach and follow the D1 Womens Hockey. Perhaps you were just over exaggerating to make a point.

yes

[egon_getts]

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1. RIT
2. Amherst
3. Plattsburgh
4. Gustavus Adolphus
5. Norwich
6. Middlebury
7. River Falls
8. Manhattanville
9. Elmira
10. Lake Forest

[valiantfan08]

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1) Amherst- Still # 1... 2x Champs
2) RIT- Appear to be real deal
3) Plattsburgh- Havn't missed a beat w new transfers
4) Gustavus-Best of the West (how good is that... we dont know)
5) Norwich-Only loss to RIT (scary good offense)
6) Mville- 4-1 with it's best players playing soccer
7) UWRF- Get's nod over Nescac's that havn't played yet
8) Middlebury-Under the radar in a lot of polls
9) Trinity-If they get goaltending look out
10) Elmira-Young and will get better and better

[Mania]

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Fan Opinion Poll for November 18, 2010

Rank | Team | (1st Votes) Pts | Previous Rank
1. RIT (1) 132 1
2. Amherst (11) 127 2
3. Plattsburgh (2) 121 4
4. River Falls 96 6
5. Gustavus (1) 90 5
6. Norwich 86 3
7. Middlebury 54 8
8. Manhattanville 33 7
9. Stevens Point 29 10
10. Elmira 24 NR

Lake Forrest 19, Trinity 6, St. Norbert 1, Neumann 1, Superior 1

East Top 5

Rank | Team
1. RIT
2. Amherst
3. Plattsburgh
4. Norwich
5. Middlebury


West Top 5

Rank | Team
1. River Falls
2. Gustavus
3. Stevens Point
4. Lake Forrest
5. St. Norbert