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CHFAN222
06-15-2010, 03:44 PM
Does UCONN have any sort of friends of UCONN hockey organization? Have they tried to contact alumni and business leaders throughout CT in an effort to elevate the mens team? I mean if you want the program to go up to the next level that should be coming from the schools alumni. Start an endowment fund for scholarships, donate money to the team to hire better coaches/support staff, improve facilities, and increase the recruiting budget. If people want the program to be better they should take action about it rather than complain on the threads.

komey1
06-15-2010, 04:31 PM
Didn't U Conn already make the jump to division one?

In name only. :D

komey1
06-15-2010, 04:33 PM
No Hockey East? Probably true, but it's easier to eliminate what is NOT preventing the Universty of Connecticut from starting a D I hockey program.
Neither overly strict recruiting regulations nor excessively rigorous academic requirements are preventing U. Con. from creating a Division I hockey program.

A hockey schedule would compete with U. Con's sucessful if tainted b-ball teams for attendance, revenue, recognition, and alumni support.

Revenue, not academics, is the justification for investing in expensive college athletic programs, and "break even" isn't much of an incentive. This attitude and the practices it engenders create employment for swarms of tax lawyers.

Just when you couldn't get any dumber ....

slurpees
06-15-2010, 04:48 PM
Does UCONN have any sort of friends of UCONN hockey organization? Have they tried to contact alumni and business leaders throughout CT in an effort to elevate the mens team? I mean if you want the program to go up to the next level that should be coming from the schools alumni. Start an endowment fund for scholarships, donate money to the team to hire better coaches/support staff, improve facilities, and increase the recruiting budget. If people want the program to be better they should take action about it rather than complain on the threads.

No, they don't have such an organization, and the university will be no part of starting it. It is crystal clear that they don't give two craps about this program.

And a little pet peeve, it's UConn, not U. Conn or U. Con or any variation with dots or something. Understandable since it's not a school most hockey fans follow, but having grown up on it, the term has been misused ad nasuem in the past.

Patman
06-15-2010, 08:04 PM
Have they tried to contact alumni and business leaders throughout CT in an effort to elevate the mens team?

They named the rink after a business leader who has been arrested for assaulting a woman... he also dated the Dutchess of York.

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/story/fergusons-brief-romance-ends_16_03_2006

schiegs
06-15-2010, 10:16 PM
And a little pet peeve, it's UConn, not U. Conn or U. Con or any variation with dots or something. Understandable since it's not a school most hockey fans follow, but having grown up on it, the term has been misused ad nasuem in the past.

And to think until I turned about ten, I thought they were referring to the awesome men's basketball program at Yukon.

TigerFan86-87
06-15-2010, 10:26 PM
If I understand correctly UConn currently does not offer any scholarships for the men's hockey program so the whole Title IV issue comes into play along with all the other hurdles.

Title 4 ??
:p ;)

RSTuthill
06-17-2010, 05:33 AM
zero chance in getting in Hockey East
Incorrect. They would be taken in a NY minute.

They alrerady have the building, it's called the HCC.

The 36 rides required kill the business case however.

bsaeagle64
06-17-2010, 07:41 AM
Incorrect. They would be taken in a NY minute.

They alrerady have the building, it's called the HCC.

The 36 rides required kill the business case however.

So they have the HCC. I'm sure the HCC wouldn't let them play their games there for $0 (or would they?), so what would be the cost for a season be and how would the $$ necessary to cover those costs be developed? Without knowing the specific costs associated with the HCC, I'm speculating that UConn Hockey would have to draw near 4-5K fans per game, just to break even (a guess on my part). Basketball games played at the HCC draw more than enough fan $$ to cover any costs and probably makes a profit (just speclation on my part). Hockey probably would not be able to draw enough fan $$ on a regular basis to justify the move to HE and the HCC, unless the UConn Athletic Department would be willing to provide the funds for the Hockey program.


And I agree that without a UConn willingness to provide the '36 rides', UConn is going to remain where they are, even if all other requirements for a jump to a better League are met.

Nick Papagiorgio
06-17-2010, 09:28 AM
Incorrect. They would be taken in a NY minute.


With a limited number of NC games that can be played since Hockey East added Vermont (and the 3 extra conference games league members have been saddled with now), you're not going to see Yukon in Hockey East on the men's side even if they dropped a lot of money into the program unless a school was dropped from the league or the NCAA allows a longer season.

I can't imagine most schools in Hockey East are going to be in favor of a putrid program joining the conference so they can replace trips to/visits from Michigan, North Dakota, Miami, etc. with 3 trips to/visits from Yukon, a program that may NEVER lift off the ground.

Yukon is Hockey East on the men's side is NEVER going to happen for many reasons.

CHFAN222
06-17-2010, 09:39 AM
With a limited number of NC games that can be played since Hockey East added Vermont (and the 3 extra conference games league members have been saddled with now), you're not going to see Yukon in Hockey East on the men's side even if they dropped a lot of money into the program unless a school was dropped from the league or the NCAA allows a longer season.

I can't imagine most schools in Hockey East are going to be in favor of a putrid program joining the conference so they can replace trips to/visits from Michigan, North Dakota, Miami, etc. with 3 trips to/visits from Yukon, a program that may NEVER lift off the ground.

Yukon is Hockey East on the men's side is NEVER going to happen for many reasons.

Actually having UCONN and another school join would help. The addition of two teams could have HE schools face off against each other just twice a year one home and one away. Currently each HE school plays each other 3 times which leads to a total of 27 Conf games for each team. With two extra teams and two games against each team that would be a total of 22 Conf games which would open up the non conference schedule.

Nick Papagiorgio
06-17-2010, 09:58 AM
Now who else is going to join?

Let's add a team from the North Pole. Those elves can really skate and will give BC's midgets a run for their money. Plus they already have ice there year-round so they will get better by practicing every day and they can build really good bleachers around a good patch of ice since they're so good at building things. Santa is the brains behind the bench, almost as good as Parker and York.

Of course, this won't be a problem once BC is forced to join the ACC hockey conference in a few years (because we all know Yukon isn't going to get that Big Ten invite)!!!

satyking
06-17-2010, 11:27 AM
And the URI has a good team and the AD was saying he would look into a better program but nothing ever came of it.....I think Title IX has something to do with the decision.....but adding UConn and URI to HE would be great

Slasher7
06-17-2010, 11:52 AM
And the URI has a good team and the AD was saying he would look into a better program but nothing ever came of it.....I think Title 11 has something to do with the decision.....but adding UConn and URI to HE would be great

No it wouldn't. We are limited to very few NC games right now. Adding 2 would pretty much mean there are very limited opportunities to play another conference team.

kingdobbs
06-17-2010, 11:54 AM
Now who else is going to join?

Let's add a team from the North Pole. Those elves can really skate and will give BC's midgets a run for their money. Plus they already have ice there year-round so they will get better by practicing every day and they can build really good bleachers around a good patch of ice since they're so good at building things. Santa is the brains behind the bench, almost as good as Parker and York.

Of course, this won't be a problem once BC is forced to join the ACC hockey conference in a few years (because we all know Yukon isn't going to get that Big Ten invite)!!!

Given that we're talking about a situation so far in the hypothetical that the dinosaur hasn't even stepped on the butterfly yet, it could be literally anyone, as long as they meet the standard of "better than Merrimack".

LynahFan
06-17-2010, 12:32 PM
And the URI has a good team and the AD was saying he would look into a better program but nothing ever came of it.....I think Title 11 has something to do with the decision.....but adding UConn and URI to HE would be great

URI is bankrupt?

CHFAN222
06-17-2010, 12:39 PM
Did you read what I posted before? Adding 2 teams to HE would actually decrease the number of conference games if you did it so that each team plays another twice a year. That way they each do a home and home. The only exception would be Maine and UVM but then you would just alternate who hosts who every year. With 22 conference games that would open give each HE team 5 extra non conference games where they can either
A) Get an easy ECAC or Atlantic Hockey foe at home and get a win and extra ticket revenue
B) Have an easier time to schedule in season tournaments
C) More flexibilty in getting a series with a WCHA or CCHA team.

Rover
06-17-2010, 01:09 PM
Funny all the bitterness that gets generated when somebody suggests a new addition to a conference. Almost turns into one of those idiotic political threads. ;)

IF UConn supported in program via scholarships and an improved facility (I don't see any chance of an outlay for a new facility) they'd make a fine addition to Hockey East. In the interests of allowing the sport to grow if it wants to, you need extra room in some of these conferences. That happens by moving a team or teams into Hockey East. All of this is once again predicated on the school supporting the team, but you can bet those BC games outta be a lot of fun. :D UMass, PC, etc - there's some potential there. Add in a few non-conferences with Yale and The Q and see if that helps enough at the gate to fund the program.

Move an improved UConn team in and you open up a space in AHA, which should at this point be considered a feeder conference for new programs to join or for improving programs to jump up from. So what if you play a few less out of conference games? At BU I'm getting a little sick of playing the EZAC anyway. If you need to add one more team to balance out the schedule go either go after Holy Cross under the "no worse than Merrimac" standard or kick Merrimac out and send them to the AHA, where they can renew their fierce rivalry with Bentley. :cool:

satyking
06-17-2010, 01:16 PM
Throw the Mac out of HE......what would we use as a reference point to just how bad a team really is.......

Rover
06-17-2010, 01:25 PM
Throw the Mac out of HE......what would we use as a reference point to just how bad a team really is.......

Northeastern. :D

Or, more realistically, Providence.