Best coaches of all time.

[Dirty]

Re: Best coaches of all time.

John Hill

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Best coaches of all time.

Shawn Walsh*

Fixed your post.

[BoSox3066]

Re: Best coaches of all time.

Think about York. His teams have won 8 straight NCAA regional games. His teams at BC have never lost in the first round.

2006: W,W,W,L
2007: W,W,W,L
2008: W,W,W,W
2009: Nill
2010: W,W,W,W

So the Eagles haven't lost a regional game since the final to the Sioux in 2005. Like I said, I think that kind of consistency is extremely impressive. To be in 4 of 5 national championship games, 5 of 7 Frozen Fours, 8 FFs in 12 years, six NCAA finals in 12 years...that's beyond reproach.

To me being up there every single season is remarkable.

Lucia being in 3 out of 4 FFs is awesome. Heck Tim Whitehead did that. But stretching that kind of FF percentage over 12 years? Who else is doing that right now?

[HarleyMC]

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That isn't true at all.

Lucia was 8-1 in those 3 tournaments. Lucia was 7-0 in 2002 and 2003. He was 8-1 in 2002, 2003 and 2004.

Better check it again. He won 7 straight from 2001-03 and the first regional game in 2004.

2006: W,W,W,L
2007: W,W,W,L
2008: Nill
2009: W,W,W,W
2010: W,W,W,W

So the Eagles haven't lost a regional game since the final to the Sioux in 2005. Like I said, I think that kind of consistency is extremely impressive. To be in 4 of 5 national championship games, 5 of 7 Frozen Fours, 8 FFs in 12 years, six NCAA finals in 12 years...that's beyond reproach.

To me being up there every single season is remarkable.

Lucia being in 3 out of 4 FFs is awesome. Heck Tim Whitehead did that. But stretching that kind of FF percentage over 12 years? Who else is doing that right now?

They won the title in 2007-08. They didn't make the NCAAs in 2009.

What you're looking at, then, is consecutive NC's. Conveniently constructed to include your guy, and exclude virtually everybody else.

Lucia and Gwoz get bonus points for Back to Back Championships.

[4four4]

Re: Best coaches of all time.

Herb Brooks

Why?

The only college coach to be in the following hall of fames; the Hockey Hall of Fame, US hockey hall of fame and the International hockey hall of fame.

Don't forget there were two movies about him. I can't think of any past or current college coaches to have such a honor.

[neshl05]

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I'm around the program enough to see a large number of players interact with him. And by interact I don't mean walk up and yell "I hate you you stupid old man!" to him. Does everyone have every single person they have met on life love or hate them? No.

But to come here and type "all hate him" is in fact stupid. Sorry.

So I'll take that has none... You didn't play with any or know any as close friends.. Any of them go to your wedding? No, I didn't think so... Of course not everyone hated him, but most do... He's an *******.

[Zudnic]

Re: Best coaches of all time.

Since 1998, York's teams:

98: Lost in national final (Michigan :grr: )
99: Lost in national semis (Maine)
00: Lost in national final (UND)
01: Won NC (UND)
02: Did not make tourney
03: Lost in Regonal final (Cornell in OT)
04: Lost in national semi (Maine)
05: Lost in regional final (UND)
06: Lost in national final (Wisconsin)
07: Lost in national final to (MSU)
08: Won NC (Notre Dame)
09: Did not make tourney
10: Won NC (Wisconsin)

13 years, 3 championships, 7 national final appearances, 9 FF appearances. In this span they also have 7 Hockey East tournament titles (not including the 2000 final and the Mike Mottau tripping incident.. we're not still ticked about that )

[JMSF#1]

Re: Best coaches of all time.

I dispute the notion that Jerry York is the best "All-Time"....as he's coached college hockey about 22 years longer than Bob Johnson did (3 titles), and 28 years longer than Herb Brooks did (3 titles), et cetera.

If these 2 guys in particular had stayed in the college ranks they'd certainly have north of 4 titles each by now. In fact, the landscape of college hockey would be much different today had they stayed but that's another story altogether.

To say Jerry York is the best today would be more accurate. You'd get no argument from me on that. Clearly he's the best coach of the last 10-15 years.

That's like saying Jimmy Johnson is the greatest college football coach.

[ts8801]

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This thread is a joke your saying the coach who JUST won the national title game is the best ever... I wonder how many times that has happened...

[ts8801]

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This thread is a joke, your saying the coach who JUST won the national title game is the best ever... I wonder how many times that has happened...

[walrus]

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This thread is a joke your saying the coach who JUST won the national title game is the best ever... I wonder how many times that has happened...

This thread is a joke, your saying the coach who JUST won the national title game is the best ever... I wonder how many times that has happened...

No need to say it twice. The thread is not saying Jerry is the best of all time, the thread is discussing where he sits on the list. If you look at what BC has done the last 12 years, it puts him on the list of best all time coaches. Where he sits on the list is up for discussion.

[Happy]

Re: Best coaches of all time.

Since 1998, York's teams:

98: Lost in national final (Michigan :grr: )
99: Lost in national semis (Maine)
00: Lost in national final (UND)
01: Won NC (UND)
02: Did not make tourney
03: Lost in Regonal final (Cornell in OT)
04: Lost in national semi (Maine)
05: Lost in regional final (UND)
06: Lost in national final (Wisconsin)
07: Lost in national final to (MSU)
08: Won NC (Notre Dame)
09: Did not make tourney
10: Won NC (Wisconsin)

13 years, 3 championships, 7 national final appearances, 9 FF appearances. In this span they also have 7 Hockey East tournament titles (not including the 2000 final and the Mike Mottau tripping incident.. we're not still ticked about that )

A lot easier to do when your team is in an easy Eastern conference, and you always get easier and hometown eastern regionals. It isn't like BC has to go through a regional of death every year, or anything.

[solovsfett]

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That's like saying Jimmy Johnson is the greatest college football coach.

Ok, I'll come out and say that Bob Johnson and Herb Brooks were the 2 best NCAA hockey coaches IMO. They did what Jerry York has done in much less time in the NCAA's (especially Brooks). And that would be my main point here.

I'll give him props for the last 10-12 years. It's been an incredible run but the bottom line to me is prior to that Lucia had a run, Gwoz had a run, Berenson and Parker had runs, so I'm not ready to anoint York as a top 5 coach ever. 37 years is a long time coaching, and 4 titles is quite an accomplishment, especially IMO, the one at Bowling Green.

[J.D.]

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It's not about York just winning the national title as this isn't his first. This is his 4th. Honest question, did any of the coaches who won four or more win them at two different schools? Add in that York is most likely going to pass Ron Mason and he absolutely is at the very least top five ever in college hockey. Longevity counts. You can only go by what someone has done, not what they might have done if they stayed longer.

[J.D.]

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A lot easier to do when your team is in an easy Eastern conference, and you always get easier and hometown eastern regionals. It isn't like BC has to go through a regional of death every year, or anything.

Not sure if you actually believe this, but BC also advanced to the '99 and '00 Frozen Fours by beating:

Northern Michigan
North Dakota (#1 team in the nation)

Michigan State
Wisconsin (#1 team in the nation)

Those regionals were both at western sites.

Going back to 1998, BC is 12-2 against the CCHA and 9-3 against the WCHA for a record of 21-5 against the big bad west.