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unh_hockey
04-03-2010, 10:06 AM
Talent and tactics definitely play into the picture, no doubt. But there is a HUGE piece of the game that gets played in the players' heads and hearts - especially in hockey - and to not maximize your efforts to get the most out of your players on the motivational front is a major oversight. And if Coach Umile's approach is to delegate that stuff to kids who are still beginners in the leadership game, I think he's missing the boat, and badly. :( JMHO.

agreed.

I made a thread about it with a few helpful books on tactics and leadership. Fact is Umile is a general of an army that gets routed continuously on the battle field at the highest level. Yet, he seemingly refuses to change any of his tactics. This is why he gets beat by superior generals. York on the other hand is a master tactician who gets his troops on the same page, understands the landscape on a scrupulous level, and can adjust when needed in order to win time and time again.

Victories in warfare are remembered by the actions of the leaders, not individual efforts of the troops. Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Hannibal, etc.

okay, i'll stop with the military analogies. :D

Gibber
04-03-2010, 02:28 PM
Our good friend Gibber has been on the board of directors for several years because he took the time to make himself known, and put the effort in to earn a spot on the board.


Can you believe its already been 11 years!?

Greg Ambrose
04-03-2010, 03:31 PM
If you haven't come to the same conclusion as me yet ... next time you see Jack Parker behind the bench at the Beanpot or in an NCAA tourney game, tell me what you see. And tell me if you EVER see one of his teams come out flat or unprepared. BU obviously doesn't always win those games, but they never ever get caught by surprise or downright embarrassed. You can say the same thing about BC under York (although his style is more restrained), and you used to be able to say the same thing about UMaine under Walshy.

Chuck, I love your references to Homer Jones and George Allen (father of the Macaca guy). How many people on this board know who they are?

Don't take too much offense Chuck when I tell you that your description of Parker is ridiculous. Given their performance this year, or that of the last few years (save 1999), BU teams have frequently come out flat, and perhaps unprepared. You only have to look at their abysmal performance against UNH in Janaury, or the way they laid down against Maine in the HE semis. Personally, I think Parker is not the dynamic coach he once was. He still brings in a boatload of blue chippers, last year's team is evidence of that, and he still gets his teams to the NCAA's (except this year), but last year he was lucky to get out of Manchester, never mind the luck involved in winning the whole thing. Ever read Parker's rants after a losing effort. I've never seen a coach throw his team under the bus more than him. Something Umile never does BTW.

I'll use this as a jumping off point for Umile. First, let's can the military analogies. He is coaching a college hockey team, not Patton's army. Umile has been the coach for 20 years and he is what he is at this point. He is a pretty fiery guy (I've been on the receiving end a couple of times) and exudes blue and white to these players all the time. Just go into the locker room and see how the history of the program is displayed. That sort of think is very important to Umile. But ultimately I think that, always, it is up to the players to go out there and do what they are supposedly capable of doing. Umile, or any coach, can give the old Knute Rockne speech, but if the players aren't listening and/or aren't capable, what's a coach supposed to do.

Without naming names, UNH has had a lot of players (including some great ones) run through the program in the nearly 40 years I've been watching, who had the "attitude" from day one. On the other hand, we've had players, not always the greatest ones, who would go through a brick wall to get the job done. Guys like Gould, Mitrovic, Thomson, Krog, Haydar, Gare, Prudden, Saviano come to mind. The bottom line is that I have seen enough of UNH Hockey over the years to know that you can't always peg the guy who is going to be the team leader. But, ultimately, it does have to be the guys on the ice who get it done, not the suits behind the bench.

As far as Umile on the PR stuff, he's better than he used to be. He's gotten the coach-speak stuff down pat now, and he is good at schmoozing one-on-one, but he is never going to let it all hang out. He's loyal to his players to a fault, so to ask him about a specific player, or a specific play where there might be some criticism involved, he's not going to respond in a way that most of us would like. I've gotten used to that when I talk to him and proceed accordingly. He can be a good interview, but only on his terms. I guess that's no different than any other CEO, politician, or coach, is it?

Ultimately all the criticism of the coach and the program comes down to talent. If we had it at the level we did 10 years ago, we'd probably be planning that trip to Detroit right now. Let's face it, the last two years Umile got more out of his teams that one could ever expect, especially when you consider how poor or thin the senior classes were. I will admit that 2008 was a huge disappointment, but is it Umile's fault that (not to single him out) that Kevin Regan picked the game vs. ND to have his worst performance of the season? Stuff like this still drives me crazy, but given that my disappointments with outcomes began in March, 1974 with the overtime loss to RPI, I've been hardened a little bit.

Carry on.

RockTheWhit
04-03-2010, 03:56 PM
When talking about coaches, I think we need to remember that this is hockey and not football or basketball. What I mean is that Umile cannot coach every play from the bench. He cannot pause the game during a 2 on 1 and tell player A to shoot low blocker side and for player B to crash the net. His job is to get the guys in the right position to succeed. By getting his team to the tournament every year, he is putting them in that position.
Additionally, the reason we are talking about having him step down is because he has not gotten it done in the ncaa tournament. We're not talking about a best of seven series where UNH was swept. We're talking about single elimination playoff hockey where one bounce or the inside of a post vs. the outside of a post can mean all the difference in the world (see 1999).
New blood in the form of new young assistants is definitely needed, but those who feel Umile needs to go because he can't get it done in the tournament should probably reevaluate things.

huesie
04-03-2010, 04:08 PM
Perhaps the reason that UNH doesn't get top flight talent with any regularity is that the program repeatedly fails on the big stage. The players change on a yearly basis (with defections and graduations) but the coaching staff and game planning remains the same.

Even casual observers are probably aware of UNH's repeated short comings in tournament play.

I often wonder how Umile's sometime deer in the headlight looks, when on ice play is awful play on TV to prospective recruits, parents and advisers?

Given the lack of an NC or even a HE championship since 2004 and poor showings when the chance to shine is there why not choose a program with a championship history instead of just a contender/pretender?:(

Chuck Murray
04-03-2010, 07:43 PM
Don't take too much offense Chuck when I tell you that your description of Parker is ridiculous. Given their performance this year, or that of the last few years (save 1999), BU teams have frequently come out flat, and perhaps unprepared. You only have to look at their abysmal performance against UNH in Janaury, or the way they laid down against Maine in the HE semis.

I should have been more clear, having re-read what I wrote. I meant to say that Coach Parker's teams never come out flat or unprepared for a Beanpot or NCAA tourney game. I'm sure that's still probably a little flattering overall, but the larger point I'm going for there is that the BU program does not lay these monstrous eggs in their high-profile games. Neither does BC in recent seasons, and when Walshy was still with us, neither did UMaine. Any team can have a bad game in the spotlight once in awhile. Unfortunately, it's a *trait* that has become synonymous with UNH over the last decade. :(


Personally, I think Parker is not the dynamic coach he once was. He still brings in a boatload of blue chippers, last year's team is evidence of that, and he still gets his teams to the NCAA's (except this year), but last year he was lucky to get out of Manchester, never mind the luck involved in winning the whole thing. Ever read Parker's rants after a losing effort. I've never seen a coach throw his team under the bus more than him. Something Umile never does BTW.

We probably agree more than you might think on the above ... but in the end, Coach Parker gets these talented kids for a reason ... and it's not just because they're a big city school, or else Northeastern would be a perennial HE powerhouse. And it's hardly a secret that Parker can turn quickly on a player that falls out of favor, for whatever reason. Yet that doesn't seem to stop more top-talent kids from coming anyway. Maybe because perception has become reality at this stage of the respective careers of Coach Parker and Coach Umile, which leaves Parker admired for being an outwardly feisty and demanding winner in the big games, and Umile discounted and scorned at times for being an outwardly passive and resigned also ran? I think that's what huesie is driving at in the previous post ... and it's tough to dispute.


But ultimately I think that, always, it is up to the players to go out there and do what they are supposedly capable of doing. Umile, or any coach, can give the old Knute Rockne speech, but if the players aren't listening and/or aren't capable, what's a coach supposed to do.

Agreed. But isn't Coach Umile ultimately responsible for choosing most/all of the players who come to play at UNH? It's not like he's a public HS coach who is at the whim of his town's general enrollment, and the quality of the town's grass roots programs in his sport(s). He ultimately gets the final say on admittance to the program if they're not capable, and he can say "yes" or "no" to icetime (or even dressing) IF they aren't listening.


Without naming names, UNH has had a lot of players (including some great ones) run through the program in the nearly 40 years I've been watching, who had the "attitude" from day one. On the other hand, we've had players, not always the greatest ones, who would go through a brick wall to get the job done. Guys like Gould, Mitrovic, Thomson, Krog, Haydar, Gare, Prudden, Saviano come to mind. The bottom line is that I have seen enough of UNH Hockey over the years to know that you can't always peg the guy who is going to be the team leader. But, ultimately, it does have to be the guys on the ice who get it done, not the suits behind the bench.

I bet if we both wrote down our respective lists of the "attitude" kids from the last 10 years of the program, there would be lots of identical names on both lists. It's not really that hard to see, if you know what to look for.

Now at the risk of some derision, I'm going to wander in with my personal experiences (admittedly on a much lower level) on the huge importance of correctly identifying leadership within any given team. I'm not sure that a coach faces a more important and critical task than to identify its leaders, and put them in leadership roles for the present and/or future of the team. Getting those decisions right or wrong will impact the chemistry of a team accordingly. And in the end, it is a coach's job to get to know ALL of their players, and in doing so get a clear sense of who your true leaders will be.

If you get your chemistry right, and you have your true leaders setting an example on AND off the ice/field/pitch, your job gets exponentially easier. There are players that thrive on the extra responsibilities that come with leadership, and couldn't give a toss about their stats - only about team *stats* like wins and losses. Likewise, there are sometimes mega-talented kids who are not good fits for leadership roles. Overlooking a true leader, or anointing a non-leader can both have similar consequences for any team.

But going back to a point I tried to make a few posts ago ... regardless of where you go with your leadership decisions, as a coach, you cannot just delegate away your own leadership and (yes) motivational responsibilities. It's just too important to leave for a relatively young player to shoulder that burden alone, or even share with a small collection of young teammates.

I've been very fortunate to have had the opportunities to see how this all plays out on a very personal level over the last several years. I can say with no qualms that teams I've coached have often come up against opponents with better tactical coaches having far more technical experience than me, and many of those teams have probably had better talent than we did, too.

But our teams have somehow managed to overcome those obstacles more often than not, and I can't ever remember an instance where our teams have failed to show up for a big game (albeit at their level). All I will say is that a coach in ANY setting has a great opportunity to set the framework for their team/program in all areas of its operation. And the ultimate level of success in any sport is rarely as simple as just having the best talent, or using the best tactics. Players need to buy in with their heads and hearts, too. And if you can't make that connection with your players ... then you owe it to them to ask yourself some very tough questions about why they're not buying in.

Again ... I'm not advocating for Coach Umile to step down, but I do think he has to selflessly ask himself those tough questions about what HE needs to do better to get where he so clearly would like to be. It would be a great story of perseverance if he were to somehow get to the pinnacle someday. And even if he doesn't, he deserves nothing less than our total respect for what he's done over the last 20 years. It's been a remarkable run for sure.

But getting to the pinnacle isn't going to happen by accident, just continuing down the path the UNH program has been trending over the last few years. And "puck luck" has little to do with an almost unprecedented run of lopsided losses to big fish and little minnows alike in spotlight games that can make or break the competitive reputation of your program. JMHO.

unh_hockey
04-03-2010, 09:04 PM
Ever read Parker's rants after a losing effort. I've never seen a coach throw his team under the bus more than him. Something Umile never does BTW.


Returning to the question of being feared or loved, I come to the conclusion that, men loving according to their own will and fearing according to that of the prince, a wise prince should establish himself on that which is in his own control and not in that of others; he must endeavour only to avoid hatred, as is noted.

Chuck Murray
04-04-2010, 12:28 AM
and on, and on, and on...Were the first 9,000 posts as long as the last 50?

Probably. :o


Since you first posted this thread with the gall to presume you had heartfelt advice that Coach Umile needed to listen to, this thread has been more about you than anything else.

If you say so.


Do you honestly think that coaching adolescent soccer teams qualifies you to advise any NCAA Division 1 hockey coach? This is a fan forum, not the coaches' corner.

No, it doesn't. But then again, I do know what it's like to have won the last game of the season - several times actually. But I should ignore that, right?


If anyone really needs to remind themselves how vital and successful Coach Umile has been and continues to be, I suggest you look up some of the interviews with JvR about why he came to UNH and what Coach Umile meant to his career (not to mention the many former players who continue to speak very highly of him).

That's a swell idea. After all, JvR's UNH career was dotted with big-time performances in the games that mattered most. Oh, wait ... :rolleyes:

I've been genuine and honest in my praise and appreciation for what Coach Umile has accomplished; looking at your tag, I'm guessing that you remember all too well what most of the '80's looked like for the UNH program during the final years of Coach Holt's reign. Not pretty, was it? Maybe you don't agree that there are parallels between then and now? Fair enough. But I do, and I haven't seen you contribute anything to convince me otherwise.

Coach Holt's former players were/are virtually unanimous in praise of their coach, too. So while it's great that many of Coach Umile's former players continue to speak very highly of him too, I'm not sure it goes to the point here? With all due respect, it does nothing to address concerns about a gradual yet steady decline of the program in recent seasons.

... drats, I was doing so much better with brief responses 'til that last paragraph :mad: ;)

Onion Man
04-04-2010, 06:57 AM
I also would love to know why star players that are choosing the college route decide on the BC's/BU's (etc.) and not UNH.

Are you serious? Boston College and Boston U. play in Boston, they have proven track records to get kids into the NHL, they play in the Beanpot, they are fantastic academic institutions, and both are coached by two of the greatest coaches to ever wear a whistle. UNH has none of those.

Besides that, I can't imagine why else...:rolleyes:

unh_hockey
04-04-2010, 09:08 AM
Are you serious? Boston College and Boston U. play in Boston, they have proven track records to get kids into the NHL, they play in the Beanpot, they are fantastic academic institutions, and both are coached by two of the greatest coaches to ever wear a whistle. UNH has none of those.

Besides that, I can't imagine why else...:rolleyes:

sorry but riverstone > beanpot.

FRICKER
04-04-2010, 09:22 AM
To Chuck Murray and other ant-Umile folks: I know Dick Umile and both of his assistants. IMO, from working closely with him, Scott Borek, is hands down, one of the best recruiting coaches in college hockey. He & Brian McClosky helped Bob Gaudet re-build the Brown Program, and he re-built the Colby program. Dave Lassonde was a highly regarded assistant at Miami before migrating east.

UNH has always had problems out-recruiting BC and BU to get the best Boston area programs, and competes with Maine for other NE prospects.
Borek has good roots in western Canada, the USHL, and NAHL. Just becasue they don't get to the Frozen Four each and every year doesn't mean they should clean house. The program has been very successful under Rich and is set up to continue seamlessly under Borek, Lassond, or McCloskey when he finally retires. Not unlike the Michigan staff where Red Berenson is blessed to have vet assistants like Mel Pearson & Billy Powers, Umile has his two guys, plus the Women's coach inside the fort. My suggestion for all you Umile headhunters is chill out and enjoy the game & team.

e.cat
04-04-2010, 09:22 AM
Now at the risk of some derision, I'm going to wander in with my personal experiences (admittedly on a much lower level) on the huge importance of correctly identifying leadership within any given team. I'm not sure that a coach faces a more important and critical task than to identify its leaders, and put them in leadership roles for the present and/or future of the team. Getting those decisions right or wrong will impact the chemistry of a team accordingly. And in the end, it is a coach's job to get to know ALL of their players, and in doing so get a clear sense of who your true leaders will be.



I'm glad that you are back posting Chuck cuz I enjoy reading you're rants. But your references to your coaching experiences are laughable. Coaching youth soccer and comparing that to Umile's job as head coach of UNH hockey is in the words of my much loved sister-in-law "RIDONKULOS."

I remember you calling for Umile's head after the 2002 FF and weren't you calling for coach McDonnell's head at about the same time frame:confused:

As an alum and a rabid UNH hockey fan since 1970 I am proud of what Umile has done for the proram. Would I like to see an NC? Yeah. Would I like to see a young coach out there recruiting? Yeah

Greg Ambrose
04-04-2010, 09:24 AM
Are you serious? Boston College and Boston U. play in Boston, they have proven track records to get kids into the NHL, they play in the Beanpot, they are fantastic academic institutions, and both are coached by two of the greatest coaches to ever wear a whistle. UNH has none of those.

Besides that, I can't imagine why else...:rolleyes:

Stick to the first clause in your sentence. The other stuff is next to irrelevant. I've been to just about every Beanpot since I was in high school and I am here to tell you that the tournament is just about meaningless now. It doesn't come close to capturing the imagination of the general student population of the four schools, or even their alumni anymore. Part of it is the domination of BU and BC, one of which has been in every Beanpot final since it started in 1953. In its heyday, which I think was the late '70's through the late 80's, all four teams were competitive. But Harvard has gone down hill mightily since then and in this year's tournament, they were an absolute joke. NU is the little engine that could, and they have a rejuvenated student body, but it is still BU's and BC's to lose every year.

Top end kids go to to BU and BC because of these schools record of producing NHL players. You look at the concourse walls at both schools and see the number of NHL players they have produced in the last 10-15 years compared to UNH or any other HE school, the number is staggering. No secret why BC won in 2001, they had 10 guys on that team who have played in the NHL. You look at UNH's wall (which unfortunately is down in the locker room level and not on the concourse), and they have about 30 all time.

The job at UNH, and most other schools, is not to go toe-to-toe with BU & BC (and all those WCHA/CCHA schools), it is to go get those players who will improve year to year and be real leaders by the time they are seniors. UNH has had plenty of those guys during Umile's tenure (Bobby Butler is the latest example), the problem right now is we don't have enough of them. To me that's the failure of the recruiters. As I've said before (and I'm not the only one), we spend too much time chasing down kids who did not play one single minute for the school. That's a strategy that has to change.

e.cat
04-04-2010, 09:32 AM
and on, and on, and on...Were the first 9,000 posts as long as the last 50? Since you first posted this thread with the gall to presume you had heartfelt advice that Coach Umile needed to listen to, this thread has been more about you than anything else. Do you honestly think that coaching adolescent soccer teams qualifies you to advise any NCAA Division 1 hockey coach? This is a fan forum, not the coaches' corner.

If anyone really needs to remind themselves how vital and successful Coach Umile has been and continues to be, I suggest you look up some of the interviews with JvR about why he came to UNH and what Coach Umile meant to his career (not to mention the many former players who continue to speak very highly of him).

Not to worry C-H-C I've got your back on this one. Chuck and I used to go at it pretty hard back in the day. His off the wall rants if taken with a grain of salt can be fun to read. If you choose to take him on though be ready cuz he can be as wordy as a Philadelphia lawyer and as stubborn. He's usually wrong though so don't take him too seriously:eek:

REDMEN2002
04-04-2010, 09:50 AM
Stick to the first clause in your sentence. The other stuff is next to irrelevant. I've been to just about every Beanpot since I was in high school and I am here to tell you that the tournament is just about meaningless now. It doesn't come close to capturing the imagination of the general student population of the four schools, or even their alumni anymore. Part of it is the domination of BU and BC, one of which has been in every Beanpot final since it started in 1953. In its heyday, which I think was the late '70's through the late 80's, all four teams were competitive. But Harvard has gone down hill mightily since then and in this year's tournament, they were an absolute joke. NU is the little engine that could, and they have a rejuvenated student body, but it is still BU's and BC's to lose every year.

You may have that opinion. However, as a fan of one of the four beanpot schools, I will say it isn't entirely meaningless to me. Also, year after year I read in the paper quotes from players from all four schools stating that the allure of the Beanpot most certainly helped in their decision to attend their institution. Was it the main reason? No, probably not. Nor should it be. However, it certainly is a posititve rather than a negative and it is something schools like UNH, Maine, etc. cannot offer.

Chuck Murray
04-04-2010, 02:34 PM
To Chuck Murray and other ant-Umile folks: I know Dick Umile and both of his assistants. IMO, from working closely with him, Scott Borek, is hands down, one of the best recruiting coaches in college hockey. He & Brian McClosky helped Bob Gaudet re-build the Brown Program, and he re-built the Colby program. Dave Lassonde was a highly regarded assistant at Miami before migrating east.

UNH has always had problems out-recruiting BC and BU to get the best Boston area programs, and competes with Maine for other NE prospects.
Borek has good roots in western Canada, the USHL, and NAHL. Just becasue they don't get to the Frozen Four each and every year doesn't mean they should clean house. The program has been very successful under Rich and is set up to continue seamlessly under Borek, Lassond, or McCloskey when he finally retires. Not unlike the Michigan staff where Red Berenson is blessed to have vet assistants like Mel Pearson & Billy Powers, Umile has his two guys, plus the Women's coach inside the fort. My suggestion for all you Umile headhunters is chill out and enjoy the game & team.

Sometimes I despair for the lack of reading comprehension on this board. If you think I'm for pushing Coach Umile out the door ... you've got the wrong guy. But yeah, I'm concerned about the gradual slippage in the program over the last 7 or so seasons. And I'm fully aware that said "slippage" might still be at a level that would be more than acceptable at numerous other NCAA Division One programs. I'm very much a "bird in the hand" guy with this, and I've gone to great lengths to express my appreciation for what Coach Umile and his staff have accomplished during their UNH tenures.

But it's a big logical jump from suggesting that Coach Umile possibly consider adjusting some of the things he's done in the past, and advocating for his removal, no?? If folks are content with how things have been going since Buffalo in 2003, nothing anyone says here is likely to change their minds. And that's cool. But as someone who saw what happened at the end of the Coach Holt era, and is seeing a lot of the same trends possibly repeating now ... I'm increasingly concerned. I think that's legit too.

Now what you suggest about a seamless transition involving the three guys currently "inside the fort" is compelling. If someone were to tell me that the day Coach Umile decides he's had enough, then Coach McCloskey would be shifting over to run the show in his place, and also retaining Coach Lassonde and/or Coach Borek ... I could honestly live with that, and quite happily. :)

But everything I've read here at USCHO, or have heard through very reliable sources outside this board suggests that such a scenario is not very likely to happen. So that's driven the discussion elsewhere.

Otherwise, in looking at some of the other recent posts, I think I'm about 99.9% on board with Greg's post from this morning. And Greg certainly doesn't appear to be advocating for Coach Umile's removal, either.

As for you, e.cat ... I miss you too. :) Really, I do. :D :confused: ;)

"I am proud of what Umile has done for the proram. Would I like to see an NC? Yeah. Would I like to see a young coach out there recruiting? Yeah"

Is there an echo in here????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Darius
04-04-2010, 02:58 PM
...posters are simply fans who realize they largely don't know what they are talking about (like me) but offer their thoughts for the sake of advancing the discussion, gaining a better understanding, and/or sharing a good laugh.
Me too, cause mostly I don't have a clue. What I do have is friends who meet players and relay conversations with them to me every year and the luck to have met a few players' parents over the years. These interactions always leave me feeling proud of the UNH hockey program and what it stands for. Sure I wish we won certain big games, but recently I've been trying to focus on how it might feel to be a fan of the opposing team when we win a big game (we do this quite often actually) and things don't seem so bad.

I've coached some very big youth soccer and softball games and the only thing I learned from that is anything can happen in a big game.

freak
04-04-2010, 05:30 PM
and weren't you calling for coach McDonnell's head at about the same time frame:confused:

Let's be honest. McDonnell was on his way out until a 4th string QB saved his job.

To his credit, McDonnell has parlayed Santos's success into vastly improved recruiting, which has allowed the program to remain very competitive.

But let's not pretend that McDonnell's coaching suddenly took a leap forward.

unh_hockey
04-04-2010, 05:32 PM
But it's a big logical jump from suggesting that Coach Umile possibly consider adjusting some of the things he's done in the past, and advocating for his removal, no?? If folks are content with how things have been going since Buffalo in 2003, nothing anyone says here is likely to change their minds. And that's cool. But as someone who saw what happened at the end of the Coach Holt era, and is seeing a lot of the same trends possibly repeating now ... I'm increasingly concerned. I think that's legit too.


^^ This

No where in any of my posts do I advocate giving Dick "tracy" Umile the boot. He's done a good enough job with what some could consider marginal/good talent in the past. I just think he isn't quite keeping up with the changing landscape that is college hockey. Should he have come across my other thread, I truly hope he realizes it was mostly in jest!

I am of the belief that giving Umile and his crew the boot would probably hurt the program significantly. As much as the fans call for a guy like Foley , what is he doing so great at Harvard? Harvard has a guy who played in the NHL at the helm, one of the best academic institutions, and a mint location ( sorry BU, comm ave sucks compared to Cambridge) but still can't do jack ****. UNH continues to be a strong tradition, and guys who graduate like JVR have nothing but great things to say...rightfully so.

Gibber said it best to me recently - keep my expectations in check. He's right. I don't expect too much, and a few fun games backed by a strong season are good enough for me. Last year when I was living in Durham, I brought my gf to the BC game and got mint seats right near when Reemer dangled the **** out of a BC pylon and scored. Fvck playoffs, those are memories right there. Sounds sappy I know, but I am a sappy mutha****er sometimes. Learn to love it!

Terrierbyassociation
04-04-2010, 06:20 PM
I have some questions:for the UNH crowd.

You only have two assistants. One is the goalie coach.

Isn't that weird? Don't most teams have two regular assistants and a goalie coach?

I'm not saying that's the cause of the problems, but that does seem rare to only have two assistants total.

I know Borek has been a HC before and recruits decently. I don't know what Lassonde does or if he is a good recruiter or not.