This is not a '' my team got screwed '' reply(that was last year) but it is about a lousy Vermont team, that finished 8th in the hockey east and somehow was ranked 14th(because of the bs OOC record) and even worse was chosen over a much more deserving Ferris State(ranked 8th), they certainly got SCREWED.
So 2 years in a row UV has gotten in the dance undeservedly so.
Good grief, UML should make all their students by stock in Kleenex so that at least they can't get something for all the crying they do.
I wonder which UML fan that's an alias for? One post, just to come on this thread and beetch about UVM...........
2 years UVM got in undeservedly? So last year with their 22-12-5 record they didn't deserve to get in either???
This year with wins over the top teams in the country and going 6-1 in OOC they didn't deserve to get in either? But this isn't a "my team got screwed reply?"
Originally posted by Hokydad
Maine will be better this year relative to rankings than BC will be this year
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This ranking system s-u-c-k-s and conference games SHOULD MEAN MORE than OOC games, the rule makers have it backwards.
Yes, I agree.
We should rate conference games more highly. In fact, we should make conference games the only factor that matter for tournament play. If you can't get it done in your own little circle of friends, you shouldn't be in the tournament.
Yeah, let's rank every team by their in-conference winning percentage, and barring tournament autobids...
1 Miami
2 RIT
3 Bemidji
4 Denver
5 Yale
6 Cornell
7 New Hampshire
8 Wisconsin
9 Boston College
10 Union
11 Sacred Heart
12 St. Cloud
13 Air Force
AB North Dakota
AB Michigan
AB UAH
I like this field. Full of those who are truly worthy, and got it done in their in-season play.
Of course, Colgate and Minnesota-Duluth can complain that they got forced out by the fluke autobids of Michigan and Huntsville, but naturally, nobody's listening.
The math formula must be hosed up if Alaska is in despite being behind FSU in all of these categories. Granted, FSU could have won to get themselves in, but what did Alaska do the last weekend to beat our FSU? Nothing and FSU was still ahead. There is something wrong with the formula IMO.
Ferris State even beat Alaska in their pairwise comparison.
However, here's where they lost out to Alaska: They had a bad record against teams under consideration. They went 6-10-3 against Miami, Alaska, Northern Michigan, Yale, Nebraska-Omaha, Michigan State and Michigan.
This lost them two comparisons with teams lower than them in the final standings.
The advantages of a fully transparent system include that a team bemoaning its fate can see exactly what it failed to do in order to get a tournament bid.
1 Miami
2 RIT
3 Bemidji
4 Denver
5 Yale
6 Cornell
7 New Hampshire
8 Wisconsin
9 Boston College
10 Union
11 Sacred Heart
12 St. Cloud
13 Air Force AB North Dakota
AB Michigan
AB UAH
So, North Dakota had to win or they wouldn't be in the tournament....just like Barry said
So, North Dakota had to win or they wouldn't be in the tournament....just like Barry said
Yup, although they were in a three-way tie for 14th with Minnesota-Duluth and Mercyhurst, and would have been a natural tourney team had there not been upsets by Michigan and UAH.
We should rate conference games more highly. In fact, we should make conference games the only factor that matter for tournament play. If you can't get it done in your own little circle of friends, you shouldn't be in the tournament.
The "N" in NCAA stands for "National". Non-conference games are the only national yardstick we have of evaluating teams on a national scale relative to each other prior to the tournament. Granted, we in hockey have a cruddy small sample of non-conference games to compare teams (this is where NCAA basketball is so much better in with more non-conference games) but just using conference games as the deciders would not give us the requisite level of national confidence in seeding a national tourney.
The analogy here would be if all colleges threw out the SAT/ACT, and only used high school class rank to make admissions decisions. You'd have no way to measure kids nationally (or high schools nationally)...
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