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MarkEagleUSA
04-22-2010, 03:55 PM
It was my recognition of the skilz that prompted the joke!Nice recovery dude! :rolleyes: ;)

Imagine if I acted my age? :eek:

Larson210
04-22-2010, 05:20 PM
[QUOTE=MarkEagleUSA;4756775]I don't have time to check but wasn't Sullivan referring to our OoC performance and not the quality of the opponents?

Quinnipiac: Flop. C-
Non-conference opponents — Bentley, Massachusetts, Holy Cross, American International, Ohio State (twice), Robert Morris (twice), St. Cloud State (twice), and Niagara (twice).

NC record - 6-4-2

Half of the Bobcats’ dozen out-of-conference games were permissible: OSU, UMass, SCSU, and take your pick of one of the other Atlantic games. But then, three games against AHA foes and four more against the CHA? I’d much rather have seen a WCHA pair in there, and maybe one or two more Hockey East games. Quinnipiac has a gorgeous facility and it’s finally starting to draw some bigger programs … but I don’t think the ‘Cats are baiting the hooks (or winning against the smaller programs) often enough.



Read more: http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,18018/ThisWeekinECACHockeyFeb42010#ixzz0lrvcTk7Q

It looks like a little of both. There seems to be some criticism for the kind of schedule we had, "but I don't think the 'Cats are baiting the hooks" but he also talks about the poor performance against those "smaller programs."

Once again as an outsider, I just took a look at Vermont's history before they made the switch to HE, http://www.uscho.com/stats/teamYxY.php/vermont-catamounts/mens-college-hockey/team,uvm/gender,m.html There doesn't seem to be much that really jumps out at me for their move to HE. They had a winning record just three times in the last ten years there and were regular season champs just once. The only thing I ever knew about Vermont before they made the switch was that St. Louis, Sharp, and Thomas played there, and that I saw UNH drop 10 on them at the Whit in '02 I am interested to know MarkEagleUSA what you thought about Vermont making the jump. It seems like they still have more history as a program. Bigger players in the NHL and what not. The big one for me with QU and HE is that Merrimack doesn't seem to me to be a good fit for HE, I ask why not make the switch? I am not criticizing or saying this has to happen I just want some discussion to help me swing more to one way or the other. I must say I love the ECAC rivalry with Yale, despite their head coach insisting it's not a rivalry. I love the feel of the ECAC rinks like the Whale, and at Harvard and Cornell. There is alot of history to be had in this league. WE can all agree QU is much better off in the ECAC than in the Atlantic. I also knew you would give me that face MarkEagleUSA when I mentioned to make the switch, I think I mentioned it to you at a game and your head almost exploded.

GO QU

MarkEagleUSA
04-22-2010, 05:53 PM
It looks like a little of both. There seems to be some criticism for the kind of schedule we had, "but I don't think the 'Cats are baiting the hooks" but he also talks about the poor performance against those "smaller programs."To be fair, it's not all QU's fault for not getting "bigger fish". It's not like Rand can pick up the phone and call Jerry York to ask BC to come to Hamden for a game. There's a limited number of OoC games available to everyone plus the issue of scheduling conflicts and the like. And let's be honest... the "big fish" want to get as much $$$ out of any road trip as they can. The bigger western programs (other than North Dakota) just don't seem as willing to travel east. They all want the eastern teams to travel to their larger barns.


I am interested to know MarkEagleUSA what you thought about Vermont making the jump. It seems like they still have more history as a program.To be honest, I don't have an opinion on UVM at all. Remember, I'm still hockey noob... my introduction to D1 college hockey started in January '07 at the Bank. I've only been at this for 3-1/2 years. :o

That said, I agree UVM has a lot more history than QU because they've been at it longer (as have most other teams). We've only been D1 for 12 years, and an ECAC member for only 5.


WE can all agree QU is much better off in the ECAC than in the Atlantic.Definitely... no argument there.


I also knew you would give me that face MarkEagleUSA when I mentioned to make the switch, I think I mentioned it to you at a game and your head almost exploded.Hey, someone's gotta keep you kids in line! :p

I'll say this... having become a huge fan of college hockey over the past few years, I would have no problem with QU going to Hockey East. At the moment, however, the timing just isn't right. I don't think we could be competetive in HE today, and I just don't see any compelling reason to make the move. After we win an ECAC championship, or ten, then maybe I'll think differently. ;)

MarkEagleUSA
04-22-2010, 06:00 PM
Once again as an outsider, I just took a look at Vermont's history before they made the switch to HE, http://www.uscho.com/stats/teamYxY.php/vermont-catamounts/mens-college-hockey/team,uvm/gender,m.html There doesn't seem to be much that really jumps out at me for their move to HE. They had a winning record just three times in the last ten years there and were regular season champs just once.I'm not trying to be a smart*** here, but take another look. UVM has only been in HE for the past 5 years (they moved when we joined the ECAC) and they haven't had a losing season there yet. Their regular season championship was '95-'96 in the ECAC.

QuRugBandit44
04-22-2010, 10:22 PM
Larson210,

Rand Pecknold is a glorified gym coach. Hire anyone who has college/pro coaching experience and who played hockey at a high level. Are you kidding me??? Connecticut College! What a joke. Would Boston College hire some guy who's greatest achievement as a player was D-III? Come on...

-QURugbandit

ZYanksRule
04-23-2010, 08:30 AM
You have to play to know the sport?

That rules out quite a few coaches at most every sport.

Some really good coaches, too.

critsports
04-23-2010, 09:25 AM
As to Vermont's move from the ECAC to the HE.

Hockey and basketball are two of the premier sports at UVM. The move to Hockey East had a lot to do with "exposure" plus HE was looking for a team. In addition look at the schools in both conferences. HE is populated by large schools with larger enrollments and many State Universities. (Maine, UNH, UMass, etc.) UVM "fit" that mold. As of right now "Q" doesn't. Actually the school that is a better fit but doesn't give a rats a__ about hockey is UCONN.

As to who you schedule as Mark indicated decisions are made well in advance and hard to come by. I hate to say it but the Niagara's, Sacred Hearts and RIT's are coming more onto SLU's schedule because of $$$$ and travel costs as opposed to anything else. In this tough economy where many Universities are reducing budgets... travelling out West or even to the CCHA is becoming less and less (for some teams).
Some HE teams are more "flexible" in their scheduling than others. We have almost always had a game or two against UNH, this past year Maine (in Portland that we'd like to forget about) and UVM has been a rival that has stayed on our schedule.

If you go back in your history books remember that before HE existed it was one big ECAC conference here in the East with our tournament being held in Boston Garden. That was long before Quinnipiac existed at the level they are at now. Some of those coaching "friendships" equate to scheduling.

BC did come to Clarkson, we went to BU two years ago........those matchups will come in time assuming your budget stays as robust as it is today.

Why would you want to move to HE and become a door mat??? As Mark said how about a few ECAC Championships first or a couple more trips to the NCAA tournament. Many of us in the ECAC who have been fans for years feared Q coming into the ECAC because of your budget, admissions, new arena, etc. Most figured it wouldn't be long before you settled at the top permanently.
But the ECAC is very competitive, top to bottom and that is the beauty of our conference. If you want to know what the ECAC is like go over the the SLU thread (it might be the older one and gone) and find the link in Hockeyplayer1015's post by Bob McKenzie about his experience of watching his son play ECAC hockey for 4 years and you'll have a much greater appreciation for the conference your team is currently in. (Sorry I dont' have time to find the link).

MarkEagleUSA
04-23-2010, 11:20 AM
If you want to know what the ECAC is like go over the the SLU thread (it might be the older one and gone) and find the link in Hockeyplayer1015's post by Bob McKenzie about his experience of watching his son play ECAC hockey for 4 years and you'll have a much greater appreciation for the conference your team is currently in. (Sorry I dont' have time to find the link).Another great post, Mike! :cool: You're ok in spite of what Tim says about you (and that darn scarlet jacket you wear)... :p

As for the link, here it is: Thanks for the Memories (http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?t=90157). An excellent post!

MarkEagleUSA
04-23-2010, 11:24 AM
Rand Pecknold is a glorified gym coach.I've come to the conclusion that if you were in fact a QU player, you must not have been any good. :mad:

QuRugBandit44
04-24-2010, 06:15 PM
I've come to the conclusion that if you were in fact a QU player, you must not have been any good. :mad:

As I stated before Mr. Eagle. I played in the AHL. Hope that answers your question.

-QURugbandit

MarkEagleUSA
04-24-2010, 06:24 PM
I played in the AHL.How did that happen if you played for that bum Pecknold? :rolleyes:

You were fortunate enough to make it to "the next level" and yet you find it nesessary to sling mud in Rand's face and disparage the entire program? As I've said before, classy. :mad:

starlessixisky
04-24-2010, 07:12 PM
LOVE this....

but anyways,
anybody know how Dalhuisen and the Dutch made out this past week?

MarkEagleUSA
04-24-2010, 07:21 PM
anybody know how Dalhuisen and the Dutch made out this past week?Can't find anything about Mike himself but the Netherlands got beat by Austria who will be playing Ukraine for the championship.

allnightwong
04-24-2010, 07:54 PM
As I stated before Mr. Eagle. I played in the AHL. Hope that answers your question.

-QURugbandit

Ben Nelson?

QUBobcats70
04-25-2010, 03:15 PM
Mike Dalhuisen at the IIHF Division I World Championships:
He has one goal and one assist, and two minutes in penalty minutes in the first four games of the tournament. His team won today, and is two and three in the tournament. There were no individual player stats on the game today.

By the way, with such an impressive playing resume, maybe QuRugBandit44 should apply to coach Quinnipiac…

Larson210
04-25-2010, 09:56 PM
I'm not trying to be a smart*** here, but take another look. UVM has only been in HE for the past 5 years (they moved when we joined the ECAC) and they haven't had a losing season there yet. Their regular season championship was '95-'96 in the ECAC.

Maybe I am confused with what you are saying, but I think it is the point I am making. UVM wasn't anything special and went from the ECAC and moved to HE where they have been much better because more recruits want to play in the HE and they made a coaching change. I have thought a little more about the switch and my father brought up the point that was made that UVM is just a much better fit, what with it being a state school in NE, which that point was made by another poster a little while ago. I want the team to get better and I think it will happen faster if they would move. But like I said I have thought about this more and please post if you disagree, but here is one thought I had. With the CHA closing its doors and HE winning the last 3 Natl. Champs, I think we can't add anymore competition to HE. If that conference gets more powerful it is just closing off doors for the rest of the league. I understand everything works in cycles, I mean I think it was '06 when WCHA was dominating and all 4 Frozen Four teams were from out west. But, I think it is more important for hockey in general terms to keep QU, an up and comer, in the ECAC as a means to keep it as competitive as it has been. HE doesn't need to get more powerful and with Bemidji heading to the WCHA, I believe, that conference just picked up a big gun. The more I think about it the more I am thinking that the ECAC is a better fit.

Larson210
04-25-2010, 10:01 PM
As I stated before Mr. Eagle. I played in the AHL. Hope that answers your question.

-QURugbandit

Jacob Legace played in the AHL too, how were your #'s.

hockeyguy
04-26-2010, 07:53 AM
I am not faulting qubandit. If he played for Rand than he knows what everyone on the team thought of him (Rand). I think he would have more knowledge than anyone who sits in the stands and observes from a distance. The people who play for the coach know the real story about him.

I think there is a lot of truth to the statements made by the bandit. That is, if he is real and played there. I do not fault or discredit anything he says.

This is my observation, and mine only, I think rand recruits well, due to the fact that he has an amazing school that is easy to bring in top recruits. I think his coaching ability is sub par due to the fact that he has these amazing players and still doesn't get it done, year after year.

Come on the lull in the middle of the season needs to be corrected by the coach.......

MarkEagleUSA
04-27-2010, 11:44 AM
Come on the lull in the middle of the season needs to be corrected by the coach.......I saw most of every game the Bobcats played this year. With the exception of two games in December, this team never mailed it in, they just had a huge run of bad luck and no bounces. How in the world is a coach supposed to correct that? He's not on the ice making the shots or the saves. Lines were mixed up and guys were scratched in an attempt to shake things up and they still ended up with nothing to show for it. In my opinion, luck, or the lack thereof, was as big a factor as anything else. You can't hang it all on the coach.

As for the other stuff, all I can say is that I've never been on the other side of the locker room door so I can't confirm or deny the hearsay. I can say that I've spoken to a few players and parents over the past 2 or 3 seasons and never once got the impression that it was anywhere near as bad as RugBandit paints it.

Quinn57
04-28-2010, 09:44 AM
Thing about the midseason lull is that it happens EVERY season. Like clockwork. This is the main reason I think talk about Rand's performance is warranted. It's clear we were doing a lot of great things early in the season and other teams adjusted. When we were faced with adjusting to those things we didn't and thus the long slide from No. 4 in the country to mid-table ECAC.

Point is, if it was just this year. Ok. But its the same storyline each year. It's frustrating.