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scsutommyboy
05-26-2010, 12:18 PM
Do you understand the impact on a local economy, and how that affects everyone there? Money spent in town gets circulated in town. Taxes in town stay in town.

How many Gopher fans really stay at a hotel for the games? 200 at most? I bet most Gopher fans go to one of the games and then drive home. The sad part of of all this is Mankato backed out of a arrangment that in the past benefitted them the most and now that it didn't screwed the people who were helping them. In the end it doesn't hurt SCSU and U of M that much because they don't need the money as much as Mankato does. However, in the future if Mankato needs something I doubt those two schools are going to be willing to help unless they get some type of guarantee.

MaizeRage
05-26-2010, 01:10 PM
I don't really care one way or the other with the home-and-home series, but it's understandable why MSU went the way they did. While every other school in the state is getting tens of millions of dollars from the state government for their arenas, any upgrades MSU wants done to the Civic Center--and there's a lot that could be done-- has to come through local tax revenue. So maximizing the intake to local businesses is important, and having two home games in a weekend does seem to make a difference.

Also, I don't really understand what MSU would have to do with St. Cloud and Minnesota agreeing to split up their home games.

scsutommyboy
05-26-2010, 04:28 PM
I don't really care one way or the other with the home-and-home series, but it's understandable why MSU went the way they did. While every other school in the state is getting tens of millions of dollars from the state government for their arenas, any upgrades MSU wants done to the Civic Center--and there's a lot that could be done-- has to come through local tax revenue. So maximizing the intake to local businesses is important, and having two home games in a weekend does seem to make a difference.

Also, I don't really understand what MSU would have to do with St. Cloud and Minnesota agreeing to split up their home games.

SCSU got ten's of millions?:eek: :confused: Last I checked they got 6 or 7 million from the state out of the 30 million renovation project. I am sure if MSU raised 23 million and put it into the Civic Center it would be plenty nice.

MaizeRage
05-26-2010, 06:55 PM
SCSU got ten's of millions?:eek: :confused: Last I checked they got 6 or 7 million from the state out of the 30 million renovation project.

Plus however many million from the state to get it built in the first place, which MSU never got. Plus an annual check from the state to cover cost of operation for the building, which MSU doesn't get.

scsutommyboy
05-28-2010, 08:48 AM
Plus however many million from the state to get it built in the first place, which MSU never got. Plus an annual check from the state to cover cost of operation for the building, which MSU doesn't get.

The building and hockey program more than pays for it's self. However, you are correct they do get money for their general budget from the state, but so do all other MNSCU schools. Former SCSU president Brendan McDonald had a vision and was smart enough to get people like John Marriucci and Herb Brooks to help him get the state to give them 11 million to build the arena. It's not our fault nobody at Mankato State had that vision.....

I agree though, Mankato has a money problem in part because they have to share revenue with the city of Mankato for home games. The problem is even if they did renovations they still would have to split money with the city. I realize if they had box seating they would make more money, but as it stands now they are not exactly selling out every game and if they add more seating it is not a guarantee they will sell the exta seating especially if they are more expensive.

redheadzeb
07-27-2010, 04:42 PM
I found this via Shane's Twitter: 2010-2011 Roster (http://www.msumavericks.com/roster.aspx?path=mhockey).

Shane's take (http://mankatofreepresshockey.blogspot.com/2010/07/2010-11-roster-released.html).

I really don't have anything to add at this time, but figured I'd throw these out there. I suppose the thread could use a bump, too :)

Chris Clark Fan Club
08-10-2010, 11:56 PM
Can't wait for the season to start, and get back to our rivalry with the Seawolves!!

Go Mavs!

MavsFan
08-11-2010, 01:38 AM
Can't wait for the season to start, and get back to our rivalry with the Seawolves!!

Go Mavs!I sent in my season-ticket renewal, but I honestly don't know why. The addition of Nebraska-Omaha and Bemidji just means two more teams to finish ahead of the Mavericks this year. Thank heavens there's always Tech!

SCSU Euro
08-11-2010, 11:50 AM
I sent in my season-ticket renewal, but I honestly don't know why. The addition of Nebraska-Omaha and Bemidji just means two more teams to finish ahead of the Mavericks this year. Thank heavens there's always Tech!

Tech's not gonna be horrid next year if they can stay healthy. I'd change that to thank heavens there's Anchorage.

MavsFan
08-12-2010, 02:03 AM
Tech's not gonna be horrid next year if they can stay healthy. I'd change that to thank heavens there's Anchorage.Okay, I'll grasp at whatever straws are floating.

Mavwatcher
08-12-2010, 11:20 AM
Well, the Mavs matched up pretty well against Bemidji, Nebraska-Omaha and SCSU last year going 4 wins 3 losses and 2 ties. Too bad the stinkers came against Alaska and Tech and the 4 ot losses in regular season. Too many one goal losses overall. Need to change that trend.

blueyesme2
08-12-2010, 08:34 PM
http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2010/08/09/kurt-davis/

MavsFan
08-13-2010, 02:33 AM
Well, the Mavs matched up pretty well against Bemidji, Nebraska-Omaha and SCSU last year going 4 wins 3 losses and 2 ties. Too bad the stinkers came against Alaska and Tech and the 4 ot losses in regular season. Too many one goal losses overall. Need to change that trend.I fear that the move of Bemidji to the WCHA is going to give them a huge recruiting advantage over Mankato. Before, the kids from northern Minnesota could choose between playing close to home where their friends and family could come to the games and playing in the WCHA. Now they can do both at Bemidji. And Omaha has a vastly superior coach.

MaizeRage
08-13-2010, 03:26 PM
I fear that the move of Bemidji to the WCHA is going to give them a huge recruiting advantage over Mankato. Before, the kids from northern Minnesota could choose between playing close to home where their friends and family could come to the games and playing in the WCHA. Now they can do both at Bemidji. And Omaha has a vastly superior coach.

What kids from northern Minnesota?

BeaverFan
08-13-2010, 03:39 PM
What kids from northern Minnesota?

Channing Boe, Zach Lehrke, Joe Schiller.. just to name a few playing for the Mavs.

MaizeRage
08-13-2010, 04:17 PM
Channing Boe, Zach Lehrke, Joe Schiller.. just to name a few playing for the Mavs.

That's pretty much my point--minus Lehrke, since the jury is still out on him.

BeaverFan
08-13-2010, 04:34 PM
That's pretty much my point--minus Lehrke, since the jury is still out on him.

IMO, Lehrke is a great recruit for the Mavs. His brother Tyler was a very good player for the Beavers.

MavsFan
08-14-2010, 01:45 AM
Jokinen, Peterson, and the ones already listed? Seriously, you want to write off northern Minnesota?

MaizeRage
08-14-2010, 02:44 AM
Jokinen, Peterson, and the ones already listed? Seriously, you want to write off northern Minnesota?

Peterson barely counts since Mankato is about twice as close to ER as Bemidji is.

Regardless, all those guys combined for six goals last year, or about 5.45% of the team's total offense. If college hockey had a VORP rating like baseball, none of those guys would be tearing it up. I hope those guys make me look dumb this year, but I wouldn't count on it.

I could only find two Minnesotans that grew up closer to Bemidji than Mankato and scored more than 5 goals in one season for the Mavs since they joined the WCHA: Steve Wagner, who was pretty awesome, and Jake Brenk, who was a huge bust, but somehow managed six goals his senior year.

Anybody that good from that area was already a lock to go to North Dakota or Minnesota, or Duluth, or St. Cloud anyway. And there's just not that much depth up there anymore due to the population declining, and for better or worse, the game being dominated by Twin Cities kids that can afford expensive personalized training.

MavsFan
08-15-2010, 12:58 AM
Peterson barely counts since Mankato is about twice as close to ER as Bemidji is.

Regardless, all those guys combined for six goals last year, or about 5.45% of the team's total offense. If college hockey had a VORP rating like baseball, none of those guys would be tearing it up. I hope those guys make me look dumb this year, but I wouldn't count on it.

I could only find two Minnesotans that grew up closer to Bemidji than Mankato and scored more than 5 goals in one season for the Mavs since they joined the WCHA: Steve Wagner, who was pretty awesome, and Jake Brenk, who was a huge bust, but somehow managed six goals his senior year.

Anybody that good from that area was already a lock to go to North Dakota or Minnesota, or Duluth, or St. Cloud anyway. And there's just not that much depth up there anymore due to the population declining, and for better or worse, the game being dominated by Twin Cities kids that can afford expensive personalized training.I hope you're right; you make a good argument.