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  • #151
    Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

    Originally posted by skiumah2 View Post
    All things being equal, if Wehrs would have got up from that hit, and the refs issued an even smaller penalty, then they would have f'ed it up even more than they did. Wehrs' injury was a result of the severity, not the cause.
    No offense, but what are you trying to say here? Not the cause of what?

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    • #152
      Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

      I am not quite sure why everyone is hating on Frattin for his comments that he was trying to fire up his team with a big hit? Hitting someone as hard as you can is legal and is something many players try to do. If he wouldn't have left his feet there wouldn't have even been a penalty. He left his feet which is illegal and he got the suspension. But hitting someone hard is not a penalty.

      UND is a very physical team year in and year out. This years team is one of the most physical they have had in recent years. Brad Malone had 10 hits in the 1st period alone on sunday. Most players don't even get 10 shifts a period. Forechecking, hitting, and causing turnovers in the offensive zone is their whole gameplan and they are very good at it. This is why teams have such a hard time trying to break the puck out against UND this year. By the third period those defenseman that have to go back and retrieve the puck have already mentally lost the battle.

      In no way am I glad a player suffered a concusion but there is a very physical side to the game of hockey. It's not all just fast skating, pretty passes and goal scoring.

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      • #153
        Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

        Originally posted by skiumah2 View Post
        How exactly does one receive a concussion without any contact to the head?
        Concussive trauma occurs from the brain impacting the inner region of the skull. A body moving forward at a rate of speed and suddenly restrained or caused to move opposite prior velocity will cause the brain to impact the skull regardless of how the body is stopped.

        If you are suddenly restrained at your chest, your head continues forward until the muscles in your neck/back/shoulders react to stop. Your brain inside your skull has no such muscle or restraint. So even if your head is never "contacted", the rest of your body affects it's travel.
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        • #154
          Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

          Originally posted by lord k View Post
          there is a very physical side to the game of hockey. It's not all just fast skating, pretty passes and goal scoring.
          So UMTC played absolutely no hockey this season?
          “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe.” —Albert Einstein

          "The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." Ronald Reagan, 40th president of the US (1911-2004)

          Just when I thought you couldn't be any dumber, you go and do something like this.....AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!

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          • #155
            Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

            If Wehrs got up right away the refs may have only given a 2 minute charge, this is true. But that doesn't make it right. Reffing 101, do not officiate off of end result. Only the action.

            All in all, what should have happened did. You can argue him being out for the game, but whatever. There was no horrible injustice here.
            the state of hockey is good

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            • #156
              Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

              Originally posted by SIOUX4EVER View Post
              So UMTC played absolutely no hockey this season?
              Most of us diehard Gopher fans aren't too proud to say that aside from a few games throughout the year, no they did not.

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              • #157
                Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                Originally posted by lord k View Post
                I am not quite sure why everyone is hating on Frattin for his comments that he was trying to fire up his team with a big hit? Hitting someone as hard as you can is legal and is something many players try to do. If he wouldn't have left his feet there wouldn't have even been a penalty. He left his feet which is illegal and he got the suspension. But hitting someone hard is not a penalty.

                UND is a very physical team year in and year out. This years team is one of the most physical they have had in recent years. Brad Malone had 10 hits in the 1st period alone on sunday. Most players don't even get 10 shifts a period. Forechecking, hitting, and causing turnovers in the offensive zone is their whole gameplan and they are very good at it. This is why teams have such a hard time trying to break the puck out against UND this year. By the third period those defenseman that have to go back and retrieve the puck have already mentally lost the battle.

                In no way am I glad a player suffered a concusion but there is a very physical side to the game of hockey. It's not all just fast skating, pretty passes and goal scoring.
                Nice analysis of the situation but you may have erred when you stated he left his feet. From still photos of the incident Frattin was moving very fast and neither player appeared to have left their feet until after the initial hit was made.

                http://siouxyeahyeahforever.blogspot...d-for-hit.html

                So it appears that Frattin may have been penalized and suspended for a legal hit. What next give out penalties for skating too fast?
                "For me, college hockey was obviously the best step I could have taken to get to the next level." - Jonathan Toews, North Dakota/Chicago Blackhawks

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                • #158
                  Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                  Originally posted by SoCalSiouxFan View Post

                  So it appears that Frattin may have been penalized and suspended for a legal hit. What next give out penalties for skating too fast?
                  Socal - please dont continue to argue legality, it was at least an obvious charge and a reasonable person could argue for more. Clearly any homerism on this by us siouxfans is just adding fuel to the fire.

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                  • #159
                    Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                    Originally posted by SoCalSiouxFan View Post
                    Nice analysis of the situation but you may have erred when you stated he left his feet. From still photos of the incident Frattin was moving very fast and neither player appeared to have left their feet until after the initial hit was made.

                    http://siouxyeahyeahforever.blogspot...d-for-hit.html

                    So it appears that Frattin may have been penalized and suspended for a legal hit. What next give out penalties for skating too fast?
                    Seek help. Soon.
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                    • #160
                      Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                      Originally posted by SoCalSiouxFan View Post
                      Nice analysis of the situation but you may have erred when you stated he left his feet. From still photos of the incident Frattin was moving very fast and neither player appeared to have left their feet until after the initial hit was made.

                      http://siouxyeahyeahforever.blogspot...d-for-hit.html

                      So it appears that Frattin may have been penalized and suspended for a legal hit. What next give out penalties for skating too fast?
                      Did you get him out of his legal problems to? Quit being such a homer.

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                      • #161
                        Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                        Originally posted by SoCalSiouxFan View Post
                        Nice analysis of the situation but you may have erred when you stated he left his feet. From still photos of the incident Frattin was moving very fast and neither player appeared to have left their feet until after the initial hit was made.

                        http://siouxyeahyeahforever.blogspot...d-for-hit.html

                        So it appears that Frattin may have been penalized and suspended for a legal hit. What next give out penalties for skating too fast?
                        lord k did not have a nice analysis of the situation, and you seem to misunderstand it as well.

                        Matt got a penalty for contact to the head. Nothing about that penalty requires one to leave their feet, at least not unless Joe Finley is the victim.

                        The league appears to have suspended Frattin due to the severity of the blow, the contact to the head, and possibly the nature of the injury. Whether Frattin did or did not leave his feet is meaningless. The hit warranted the penalty and suspension that has been levied, and no amount of frame by frame analysis of the Frattin Zapruder film will change that. Let it go.
                        That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                        • #162
                          Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                          Originally posted by Sloe Gin View Post

                          It's only because most of you either have a deep hatred of the Sioux program or you're a moronic St. Cloud fan...
                          I take offense at this. I have a deep hatred for Sioux AND I'm a moronic St. Cloud Fan! The fact that you're suggesting that it has to be one or the other ****es me off
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                          Between autocorrect, touch typing and a lack of desire or time to proofread on the internet, there are likely errors in any text I post. If pointing these out will add to your sense of self worth and validate your life, knock yourself out.

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                          • #163
                            Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                            Originally posted by wchaforever View Post
                            Photos don't ever tell the whole story.
                            No?? Didn't we see that Frattin crushed Wehrs' throat with his knee - while kissing Dude Love good-night?
                            Originally posted by HostileAndAbusive View Post
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                            Last edited by bik4u62; 03-16-2010, 02:19 PM.

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                            • #164
                              Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                              (ooops - 'spectator')

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                              • #165
                                Re: Cheap *** Sioux!

                                Originally posted by bik4u62 View Post
                                (ooops - 'spectator')
                                You can go back and edit that. See the "edit" button?
                                the state of hockey is good

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