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    East Region Region Record Overall
    1. Norwich 17-1-4 21-1-4
    2. Oswego State 23-2-0 24-2-0
    3. Middlebury 15-3-4 17-4-4
    4. Plattsburgh State 18-4-4 18-4-4
    5. Bowdoin 16-5-1 18-5-1
    6. Elmira 17-7-1 18-7-1
    7. Trinity (Connecticut) 14-7-2 15-8-2
    8. Amherst 15-4-4 16-5-4
    9. Williams 13-6-3 15-6-3
    10. Manhattanville 18-6-1 19-6-1
    11. Hamilton 14-7-2 15-8-2
    12. Curry 10-5-1 17-8-1
    13. Wentworth Institute 17-4-1 20-4-1
    14. Babson 10-11-2 10-11-2
    15. Neumann 15-9-3 15-9-3

    West Region
    1. St. Norbert 20-2-3 20-3-3
    2. Gustavus Adolphus 19-5-2 1 9-5-2
    3. St. Scholastica 16-5-6 17-5-6
    4. Hamline 16-6-4 16-6-4
    5. Wisconsin-River Falls 18-8-2 18-8-2
    6. Augsburg 16-9-1 16-9-1
    7. Adrian 22-2-0 22-3-0

    ** Five count 'em 5 NESCAC teams in the top 9 when the overwhelming majority of the NC schedule is played against the ECAC/E against whom the NESCAC was 64-32!? and another bunch of games against the NE and MASCAC. Even my crude, uneducated analytical skills indicate that those rankings are less than objective. If the NCHA played an interlock with the MCHA, they'd have all 7 Western slots.
    Last edited by elbojpb; 03-02-2010, 07:59 PM. Reason: Frankly I'm ticked.

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    Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

    Originally posted by elbojpb View Post
    If the NCHA played an interlock with the MCHA, they'd have all 7 Western slots.

    ....well they'd have to have Adrian in there somewhere ....so maybe 6 ?

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    • #3
      Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

      Originally posted by elbojpb View Post
      ** Five count 'em 5 NESCAC teams in the top 9 when the overwhelming majority of the NC schedule is played against the ECAC/E against whom the NESCAC was 64-32!? and another bunch of games against the NE and MASCAC. Even my crude, uneducated analytical skills indicate that those rankings are less than objective. If the NCHA played an interlock with the MCHA, they'd have all 7 Western slots.
      Error! The game against the ECAC E are conference games, which totally balance out in calculating the OWP They may have gotten to play UNE, but they also had to play Norwich. League games balance out when you play every member of the league the same number of times.
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      • #4
        Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

        Originally posted by elbojpb View Post
        East Region Region Record Overall
        1. Norwich 17-1-4 21-1-4
        2. Oswego State 23-2-0 24-2-0
        3. Middlebury 15-3-4 17-4-4
        4. Plattsburgh State 18-4-4 18-4-4
        5. Bowdoin 16-5-1 18-5-1
        6. Elmira 17-7-1 18-7-1
        7. Trinity (Connecticut) 14-7-2 15-8-2
        8. Amherst 15-4-4 16-5-4
        9. Williams 13-6-3 15-6-3
        10. Manhattanville 18-6-1 19-6-1
        11. Hamilton 14-7-2 15-8-2
        12. Curry 10-5-1 17-8-1
        13. Wentworth Institute 17-4-1 20-4-1
        14. Babson 10-11-2 10-11-2
        15. Neumann 15-9-3 15-9-3

        West Region
        1. St. Norbert 20-2-3 20-3-3
        2. Gustavus Adolphus 19-5-2 1 9-5-2
        3. St. Scholastica 16-5-6 17-5-6
        4. Hamline 16-6-4 16-6-4
        5. Wisconsin-River Falls 18-8-2 18-8-2
        6. Augsburg 16-9-1 16-9-1
        7. Adrian 22-2-0 22-3-0

        ** Five count 'em 5 NESCAC teams in the top 9 when the overwhelming majority of the NC schedule is played against the ECAC/E against whom the NESCAC was 64-32!? and another bunch of games against the NE and MASCAC. Even my crude, uneducated analytical skills indicate that those rankings are less than objective. If the NCHA played an interlock with the MCHA, they'd have all 7 Western slots.
        An interesting observation, understandable when you first look at the list. Does seem overloaded with NESCAC.

        However, two things: first it would be more comparable to look at the NCHA playing an interlock with the MIAC not the MCHA. At least in my opinion the MIAC and ECAC-East are somewhat comparable this year while the MCHA and ECAC-NE are closer to each other.

        Secondly if you look at the East Region List, who would you put ahead of the 5 NESCAC teams? I don't see anyone below them that should be moved up, especially if you look at the SOS and OOC schedules of those lower ranked teams.

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          Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

          It looks like Committee West are positioning CSS for pool c.

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          • #6
            Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

            Originally posted by NorthernLite View Post
            It looks like Committee West are positioning CSS for pool c.
            The interesting question will be how do they compare with the top three Pool C candidates from the East.
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              Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

              Originally posted by NorthernLite View Post
              It looks like Committee West are positioning CSS for pool c.
              They are maneuvering, but we all know what happens when the West committee tries to maneuver... the East Committee ALWAYS out-maneuvers them.
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              • #8
                Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                The interesting question will be how do they compare with the top three Pool C candidates from the East.
                ....I suspect the east might trump the west.

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                • #9
                  Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                  Originally posted by oldguard View Post
                  Secondly if you look at the East Region List, who would you put ahead of the 5 NESCAC teams? I don't see anyone below them that should be moved up, especially if you look at the SOS and OOC schedules of those lower ranked teams.
                  Bingo. The ECAC-E is having a meh year, but the NE is the NE and the ECAC-W simply hasn't been itself this season. Both of the SUNYAC powers can argue (obviously, in Oswego's case) for a one-rank bump at most, but both of those teams lost two ranked-opponent wins this week after Morrisville took down Fredonia. The NESCAC schools may have collectively benefited in the Win% department from feasting on the same slate of inferior ECAC-E teams, but representatives of other conferences really haven't done much to distinguish their own wins as more impressive.
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                    Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                    Originally posted by NorthernLite View Post
                    ....well they'd have to have Adrian in there somewhere ....so maybe 6 ?
                    not when all 7 NCHA teams beat Adrian
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                    • #11
                      Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                      Originally posted by NorthernLite View Post
                      ....well they'd have to have Adrian in there somewhere ....so maybe 6 ?
                      The fact that the MCHA will get an AQ does not mean Adrian has to be regionally ranked.
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                      • #12
                        Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                        Originally posted by gojackets View Post
                        not when all 7 NCHA teams beat Adrian


                        ... it's been three years.......and so far these 7 NCHA teams you consider superior (pun) .....have declined the opportunity to play Adrian.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                          Originally posted by jerrynu26 View Post
                          The fact that the MCHA will get an AQ does not mean Adrian has to be regionally ranked.
                          Couldn't care less about regional rankings.
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                          • #14
                            Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                            Originally posted by jerrynu26 View Post
                            The fact that the MCHA will get an AQ does not mean Adrian has to be regionally ranked.
                            In fact, with their high likelihood of winning the MCHA AQ it would probably be in the West's best interest not to rank Adrian and get someone else in there who can improve the record of the top few West teams against ranked opponents.
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                              Re: 3/2 Regional Rankings

                              Originally posted by MW4Bucky&SNC View Post
                              In fact, with their high likelihood of winning the MCHA AQ it would probably be in the West's best interest not to rank Adrian and get someone else in there who can improve the record of the top few West teams against ranked opponents.
                              It helps Hamline having them in there
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