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    Folks, I know that the olympics is not amateur anymore and I loved every minute of this year's olympic hockey tournament. I also know that in 1980, many of the US team members had already finished their eligibility, but let's pretend we had to pick the USA team from current college players. Who would make the team?

    Here some of my possibilities:

    Forwards:
    Rhett Rakhshani (Denver)
    Tyler Ruegsegger (Denver)
    Blake Geoffrion (Wisconsin)
    Michael Davies (Wisconsin)
    Chase Polacek (RPI)
    Ryan Lasch (SCSU)
    Garrett Roe (SCSU)
    James Marcou (UMass-Amherst)
    Bobby Butler (UNH)
    Brian Gibbons (BC)
    Cam Atkinson (BC)
    Broc Little (Yale)
    Brian O'Neill (Yale)
    Brian Flynn (Maine)
    Austin Smith (Colgate)
    Brian Day (Colgate)
    Jack Connolly (Duluth)
    Nick Bonino (BU)
    Andy Taranto (UAF)
    Jacques Lamoureux (Air Force)

    Defense:
    Will O'Neil (Maine)
    Dave Warsofsky (BU)
    Kevin Shattenkirk (BU)
    Colby Cohen (BU)
    Blake Kessel (UNH)
    Nick Schaus (UML)
    Thomas Dignard (Yale)
    Justin Braun (UMass-Amherst)
    Nate Prosser (CC)
    Gabe Guentzel (CC)
    Zach Redmond (FSU)
    Ed Del Grosso (UNO)

    Goaltenders:
    Cody Reichard (Miami)
    Riley Gill (WMU)
    Pat Nagle (FSU)

    I will admit I don't see much of the western teams. I've seen DU, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, Michigan, Miami, Omaha, Notre Dame on tv a few times and a few games in person when they've been out east, but just threw some names out.

    Edit to add some players I forgot.
    Last edited by irishfan85; 03-01-2010, 10:35 PM.

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    Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

    I would have to nominate Jeff Petry of Michigan State on defense. It will only be a matter of days following his exit from MSU that he will be in the Edmonton Oilers lineup.
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    • #3
      Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

      If you are picking college age kids, wouldn't you start with the WJC team members? They just won gold after all.

      1 CAMPBELL Jack GK US National U18
      2 RAMAGE John D University of Wisconsin
      4 DONOVAN Matt D University of Denver
      5 WARSOFSKY David D Boston University
      8 KRISTO Danny F University of North Dakota
      9 McRAE Philip F London Knights
      10 JOHNSON Tyler F Spokane Chiefs
      11 CARLSON John D Hershey Bears
      14 WALKER Luke F Portland Winterhawks
      16 ZUCKER Jason F US National U18
      17 BOURQUE Ryan F Quebec Remparts
      18 LASHOFF Brian D Kingston Frontenacs
      19 SCHROEDER Jordan F University of Minnesota
      20 KREIDER Chris F Boston College
      21 STEPAN Derek F University of Wisconsin
      22 JENKS Aj F Plymouth Whalers
      23 PALMIERI Kyle F University of Notre Dame
      24 FOWLER Cam D Windsor Spitfires
      26 MORIN Jeremy F Kitchener Rangers
      28 GARDINER Jake D University of Wisconsin
      29 D AMIGO Jerry F Rensselaer University
      30 LEE Mike GK St. Cloud State
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      • #4
        Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

        JF, Some of those kids aren't college kids and there are possibly some older players that are better and more ready to compete. I count 9 major junior players on that WJC team. Technically, you lose your amateur status once playing in MJ.

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        • #5
          Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

          Originally posted by irishfan85 View Post
          JF, Some of those kids aren't college kids and there are possibly some older players that are better and more ready to compete. I count 9 major junior players on that WJC team. Technically, you lose your amateur status once playing in MJ.
          which, curiously, would make one wonder what a Canadian line up look like. What was the rule before amateurism was lifted? Whom did Canada send?
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          • #6
            Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

            Originally posted by irishfan85 View Post
            Folks, I know that the olympics is not amateur anymore and I loved every minute of this year's olympic hockey tournament. I also know that in 1980, many of the US team members had already finished their eligibility, but let's pretend we had to pick the USA team from current college players. Who would make the team?

            Here some of my possibilities:

            Forwards:
            Rhett Rakhshani (Denver)
            Tyler Ruegsegger (Denver)
            Blake Geoffrion (Wisconsin)
            James Marcou (UMass-Amherst)
            Brian Gibbons (BC)
            Cam Atkinson (BC)
            Broc Little (Yale)
            Brian O'Neill (Yale)
            Brian Flynn (Maine)
            Austin Smith (Colgate)
            Brian Day (Colgate)
            Jack Connolly (Duluth)
            Nick Bonino (BU)
            Andy Taranto (UAF)
            Jacques Lamoureux (Air Force)

            Defense:
            Will O'Neil (Maine)
            Dave Warsofsky (BU)
            Kevin Shattenkirk (BU)
            Colby Cohen (BU)
            Blake Kessel (UNH)
            Nick Schaus (UML)
            Thomas Dignard (Yale)
            Justin Braun (UMass-Amherst)
            Nate Prosser (CC)
            Gabe Guentzel (CC)
            Zach Redmond (FSU)
            Ed Del Grosso (UNO)

            Goaltenders:
            Cody Reichard (Miami)
            Riley Gill (WMU)
            Pat Nagle (FSU)

            I will admit I don't see much of the western teams. I've seen DU, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, Michigan, Miami, Omaha, Notre Dame on tv a few times and a few games in person when they've been out east, but just threw some names out.
            colby cohen would get absolutely destroyed playing defense on an international level. his shot is one of the best in the nation, so his only shot would seemingly be as a forward. more likely, sub warsofsky for him if this is a non-NHL tournament.
            time to write new history

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            • #7
              Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

              Originally posted by slurpees View Post
              colby cohen would get absolutely destroyed playing defense on an international level. his shot is one of the best in the nation, so his only shot would seemingly be as a forward. more likely, sub warsofsky for him if this is a non-NHL tournament.
              I agree with you regarding Colby Cohen's play in his own end, but he has a tendancy for big goals in big games and there was another BU player who wasn't even close to being the best player on the team in 1980, but he also scored a kind of big goal.

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              • #8
                Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                Originally posted by irishfan85 View Post
                JF, Some of those kids aren't college kids and there are possibly some older players that are better and more ready to compete. I count 9 major junior players on that WJC team. Technically, you lose your amateur status once playing in MJ.
                Is it amateur status...or just NCAA eligibility?
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                • #9
                  Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                  Originally posted by irishfan85 View Post
                  Folks, I know that the olympics is not amateur anymore and I loved every minute of this year's olympic hockey tournament. I also know that in 1980, many of the US team members had already finished their eligibility, but let's pretend we had to pick the USA team from current college players. Who would make the team?

                  Here some of my possibilities:

                  Forwards:
                  Rhett Rakhshani (Denver)
                  Tyler Ruegsegger (Denver)
                  Blake Geoffrion (Wisconsin)
                  Michael Davies (Wisconsin)
                  Chase Polacek (RPI)
                  James Marcou (UMass-Amherst)
                  Bobby Butler (UNH)
                  Brian Gibbons (BC)
                  Cam Atkinson (BC)
                  Broc Little (Yale)
                  Brian O'Neill (Yale)
                  Brian Flynn (Maine)
                  Austin Smith (Colgate)
                  Brian Day (Colgate)
                  Jack Connolly (Duluth)
                  Nick Bonino (BU)
                  Andy Taranto (UAF)
                  Jacques Lamoureux (Air Force)

                  Defense:
                  Will O'Neil (Maine)
                  Dave Warsofsky (BU)
                  Kevin Shattenkirk (BU)
                  Colby Cohen (BU)
                  Blake Kessel (UNH)
                  Nick Schaus (UML)
                  Thomas Dignard (Yale)
                  Justin Braun (UMass-Amherst)
                  Nate Prosser (CC)
                  Gabe Guentzel (CC)
                  Zach Redmond (FSU)
                  Ed Del Grosso (UNO)

                  Goaltenders:
                  Cody Reichard (Miami)
                  Riley Gill (WMU)
                  Pat Nagle (FSU)

                  I will admit I don't see much of the western teams. I've seen DU, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota, Michigan, Miami, Omaha, Notre Dame on tv a few times and a few games in person when they've been out east, but just threw some names out.
                  If you're looking for a defender to put a hurt on someone, then yes, Nick Schaus from UML is the one to take. However, if you're looking to have one of the most sound, all-around defensive guys in the country, then you go with Jeremy Dehner. The 'Big Cheese' from Wisconsin.

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                  • #10
                    Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                    Originally posted by Patman View Post
                    which, curiously, would make one wonder what a Canadian line up look like. What was the rule before amateurism was lifted? Whom did Canada send?
                    Great question. Here's what I put together.

                    Forwards:
                    Joe Colbourne (Denver)
                    Marc Olver (NMU)
                    Mario Valery-Trabucco (Union)
                    Mike McKenzie (St. Lawrence)
                    Justin Fontaine (Duluth)
                    Peter LeBlanc (UNH)
                    Chris Barton (Merrimack)
                    Tanner House (Maine)
                    Louis LeBlanc (Harvard)
                    Matt Read (Bemidji State)
                    Dion Knelsen (UAF)
                    David McIntyre (Colgate)
                    Blair Riley (FSU)
                    Blake Gallagher (Cornell)
                    Colin Greening (Cornell)
                    Riley Nash (Cornell)

                    Defensemen:
                    Alex Biega (Harvard)
                    Brendan Smith (Wisconsin)
                    Brad Hunt (Bemidji)
                    Eric Gryba (BU)
                    Maury Edwards (Lowell)
                    Martin Nolet (UMass-Amherst)
                    Brendan Nash (Cornell)
                    Patrick Wiercioch

                    Goaltenders:
                    Alex Beaudray (PC)
                    Ben Scrivens (Cornell)
                    Marc Cheverie (Denver)

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                    • #11
                      Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                      Originally posted by irishfan85 View Post

                      Goaltenders:
                      Alex Beaudray (PC)
                      Ben Scrivens (Cornell)
                      Marc Cheverie (Denver)

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                      • #12
                        Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                        Originally posted by slurpees View Post
                        Don't forget Millan.
                        Hutton over Millan...

                        both over Beaudry

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                        • #13
                          Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                          Originally posted by bottomdweller View Post
                          Hutton over Millan...

                          both over Beaudry
                          Agree. I wish I had the time to think about these lists all day, but just did it quick so I'm not saying I included everyone and/or put the players who should be there. Beaudray makes some good saves, but leaves a lot of fat rebounds. Milan was great last year, but was awful first half of this season, but I would take him and Hutton over Beaudray.

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                          • #14
                            Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                            I wondered the same thing a few weeks ago and put together my roster. Here is from a post I did on the Badger blog.

                            Editors Note: This story first ran April 8, 2009 and has been updated to reflect current changes.

                            Obviously, this list is flawed for a few reasons. Number one, there are players on this list that have already turned professional. For this article, I'm going to assume that these players would have kept their amateur status so that they could stay eligible for the 2010 games. Some players listed below turned pro early over this past summer, or were college seniors last season. Number two, It's hard to judge if players that went pro more than a year ago would have stayed in school in order to make a run at playing for this team.

                            Any ways, here is the list...let the debate begin:

                            Forwards (13, alphabetical order) :

                            Blake Geoffrion-Wisconsin-WCHA
                            Jacques Lamoureux-Air Force-Atlantic Hockey
                            Ryan Lasch-St. Cloud-WCHA
                            James Marcou-UMASS-Hockey East
                            Aaron Palushaj-Michigan -CCHA
                            Rhett Rakhshani-Denver-WCHA
                            Chad Rau-Colorado College-WCHA
                            Jordan Schroeder-Minnesota-WCHA
                            Dan Sexton-Bowling Green-CCHA
                            Ryan Stoa-Minnesota-WCHA
                            Eric Tangradi-Belleville-OHL
                            James van Riemsdyk-UNH-Hockey East
                            Colin Wilson-Boston University-Hockey East

                            Defense (7, alphabetical order) :
                            Jonathon Blum-Vancouver-WHL
                            Greg Flynn-Air Force-Atlantic Hockey
                            Matt Gilroy-Boston University-Hockey East
                            Jamie McBain-Wisconsin-WCHA
                            Ryan McDonagh-Wisconsin-WCHA
                            Kevin Shattenkirk-Boston University-Hockey East
                            Chris Summers-Michigan-CCHA

                            Goaltender (2, alphabetical order) :
                            Zane Kalemba-Princeton-ECAC
                            Alex Stalock-Minnesota Duluth-WCHA

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                              Re: If the olympics were still amateur...

                              Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                              Is it amateur status...or just NCAA eligibility?
                              Amateur status. Canada refused to send a team to the Olympics in the '70s to protest not being able to use MJ players while the Soviets could use their guys.

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