L V C Hockey Program Is Over

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

Re: L V C Hockey Program Is Over

Yes but now the ECAC West needs once again needs two teams for a Pool A bid and D-III loses the HersheyPark Arena.

Also, Neumann loses its travel partner and we have an unbalanced schedule again.

Needs 2 for the pool A, and is seriously looking at the prospect of Pool B disappearing if they don't.

[NUProf]

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Needs 2 for the pool A, and is seriously looking at the prospect of Pool B disappearing if they don't.

After 2011, Pool B is gone unless they pick up 2 teams. As I said in the Elmira thread. If they got two more, then Pool B would continue during the waiting period for the Pool A status, and if they don't get two more, it's done. With no Pool B this year nobody in the ECAC West would be going.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Needs 2 for the pool A, and is seriously looking at the prospect of Pool B disappearing if they don't.

Didn't even think about that until you and I believe NUProf or joecct posted that.

As Scott said in his article this week, the ECAC brass needs to get their shiz together.

They dropped the ball on the chance to add Adrian and now its quickly looking it might become the CHA of D-III hockey. An irrelevant conference that no one wants a part of.

The ECAC West wouldn't even have a team going to the tournament this year if not for the Pool B.

[93GreatLaker]

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Yes but now the ECAC West needs once again needs two teams for a Pool A bid and D-III loses the HersheyPark Arena.

Also, Neumann loses its travel partner and we have an unbalanced schedule again.

Agree on the rink. Great venue. In regards to travel partners, you don't need one if you are playing a two game set, one home and one away twice a year.

I do not believe in the "something is better than nothing" school of thought. The ECAC West needs to get active and find a suitable replacement, or work something out with the East if possible to shift a team or two. This could be a blessing in disguise.

If indeed they lose the pool B bid because of this, then I agree, that trumps everything. But if the B bid remains, it makes no difference they are gone.

[NUProf]

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Agree on the rink. Great venue. In regards to travel partners, you don't need one if you are playing a two game set, one home and one away twice a year.

I do not believe in the "something is better than nothing" school of thought. The ECAC West needs to get active and find a suitable replacement, or work something out with the East if possible to shift a team or two. This could be a blessing in disguise.

If indeed they lose the pool B bid because of this, then I agree, that trumps everything. But if the B bid remains, it makes no difference they are gone.

The Pool B is gone after next year - It would have been gone this year except for the formation of the MASCAC. Pool B used to consist of the ECAC W and the MCHA. MCHA is now Pool A, so now Pool B is the ECAC W and MASCAC. When the MASCAC finishes their two year probation, there will only be 5 Pool B teams - Unless they have 7 pool B teams, Pool B is dead.

[jerrynu26]

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The Sooper
ECAC-E (sans D-II) and ECAC-W combine

CCCP          Pretzel
Norwich       Hobart
Castleton     Elmira
NEC           Manhattanville
Babson        Utica
UNE           Neumann
USM           Skidmore
UMB

Each division plays intra 2x and inter 1x for 18 games (CCCP) or 17 games (Pretzel). Top 3 in each conference are automatic tournament qualifiers and then the next best 2 teams for positions 7 and 8.

After the two Little East (USM, UMB) teams depart for the MASCAC/Little East conference in 11-12 you play everyone 2x for a total of 20 conference games. Most teams would play H & H each year, but teams in out of the way locations may want to consider 2 game series (home one yr, away the other) to save on travel costs.

More likely that Manhattanville will petition to go to the ECAC-East, and could be allowed in (I believe they have expressed interest in that before now). I doubt the rest of the East has much desire to schedule the rest of the west due to travel costs.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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More likely that Manhattanville will petition to go to the ECAC-East, and could be allowed in (I believe they have expressed interest in that before now). I doubt the rest of the East has much desire to schedule the rest of the west due to travel costs.

I heard the negotiations were similar to this sequence of events:

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/ran...tting-engaged/

Manhattanville = Hillary Duff
The ECAC East = Mike Comrie

Enjoy.

[spwood]

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I heard the negotiations were similar to this sequence of events:

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/ran...tting-engaged/

Manhattanville = Hillary Duff
The ECAC East = Mike Comrie

Enjoy.

Now is this appropriate from a member of the media?

[joecct]

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More likely that Manhattanville will petition to go to the ECAC-East, and could be allowed in (I believe they have expressed interest in that before now). I doubt the rest of the East has much desire to schedule the rest of the west due to travel costs.

If Manhattanville punts to the East, what happens to Neumann? They're hanging in a remote outpost and costs will be prohibitive - they might be the next casualty.

Keep the West as it is, move Skiddy over and then work out an interlock with the East or affiliate with the SUNYAC. Either way they have to find a marriage partner.

[Artie12]

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The Sooper
ECAC-E (sans D-II) and ECAC-W combine

CCCP          Pretzel
Norwich       Hobart
Castleton     Elmira
NEC           Manhattanville
Babson        Utica
UNE           Neumann
USM           Skidmore
UMB

How bout this?

Castleton, Norwich, and Skidmore go to the west to make an 8 team league.
Babson, Mass-Boston and Southern Maine go to MASCAC to make a 10 team league.
NEC and UNE to the Northeast to make a 10 team league.

That would leave us with.

West
Castleton
Elmira
Hobart
Manhattanville
Neumann
Norwich
Skidmore
Utica
*Play everyone twice

MASCAC
Babson
Fitchburg
Framingham
Plymouth
Salem
Southern ME
Umass-B
Umass-D
Westfield
Worcester
*Play everyone twice

Northeast
Becker
Curry
Johnson and Wales
NEC
Nichols
Salve
Suffolk
UNE
Wentworth
WNEC
*Play everyone twice

All conferences would have an autobid and pool C bids would remain at 3.

[Steve Day]

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[QUOTE=Artie12;4649445]How bout this?

Castleton, Norwich, and Skidmore go to the west to make an 8 team league.
Babson, Mass-Boston and Southern Maine go to MASCAC to make a 10 team league. NEC and UNE to the Northeast to make a 10 team league.


QUOTE]

Babson is a small private college
Nothing in Common with MASCAC Schools

[SteveP]

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I heard the negotiations were similar to this sequence of events:

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/ran...tting-engaged/

Manhattanville = Hillary Duff
The ECAC East = Mike Comrie

Enjoy.

But don't enjoy at work!

As an ACHA D-1 observer for the past 8 years - I'm not sure a team that's 0-fer the past two seasons will do much better in our little corner of the hockey world.

Having said that, LVC perhaps could wind up in the ESCHL with Penn State, Rhode Island, Delaware, West Chester and Robert Morris, but not next season.

[Artie12]

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Babson is a small private college
Nothing in Common with MASCAC Schools

Just trying to find everyone a place to play

[DIIIFan]

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The ECAC West has had their answer in their backyards for years. It is Hamilton. Location wise it makes more sense for Hamilton to play in the ECAC West. It would also give Elmira/Utica/Hobart a travel partner. If the ECAC West was able to get Skidmore to their league would it not give them an automatic qualifier at some point in time??
Oswego '89

[one_to7]

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The ECAC West has had their answer in their backyards for years. It is Hamilton. Location wise it makes more sense for Hamilton to play in the ECAC West. It would also give Elmira/Utica/Hobart a travel partner. If the ECAC West was able to get Skidmore to their league would it not give them an automatic qualifier at some point in time??
Oswego '89

If they got skidmore AND hamilton, then yes they'd get an automatic qualifier after 2 years. If they only got one of them, then no, no qualifier (you need 7 teams.)

Hamilton fits in the nescac academically and philosophically though, so I doubt that would happen annnytime soon.