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    The rankings should be released today.

    I was thinking about it and I'm curious where Adrian will end up. Most of their losses are out of region, so don't count. Their in region record is 11-4-1 or 71.8%

    Its an interesting discussion at least. Will they benefit from having all of those out of region games?
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    Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

    Originally posted by gojackets View Post
    The rankings should be released today.

    I was thinking about it and I'm curious where Adrian will end up. Most of their losses are out of region, so don't count. Their in region record is 11-4-1 or 71.8%

    Its an interesting discussion at least. Will they benefit from having all of those out of region games?
    Say What? Unless there is a change, I believe the NC$$ ranks only by region with the regional rankings carrying over to the national for Secondary criteria purposes. Therefore only regional games would be included for the rankings. Doesn't make sense, but what does the NC$$ do that does??

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    • #3
      Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

      Originally posted by Say What? View Post
      Say What? Unless there is a change, I believe the NC$$ ranks only by region with the regional rankings carrying over to the national for Secondary criteria purposes. Therefore only regional games would be included for the rankings. Doesn't make sense, but what does the NC$$ do that does??
      Isn't that basically what I said??

      My question was...does playing out of region games, benefit Adrian...especially when they lose them.
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      • #4
        Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

        Here they are

        East Region Region Record Overall
        1. Plattsburgh State 18-1-2 19-1-2
        2. Amherst 16-2-4 17-2-4
        3. Elmira 18-4-1 18-4-1
        4. Trinity (Connecticut) 16-3-2 17-3-2
        5. Middlebury 13-5-2 14-5-2
        6. Rochester Institute of Technology 14-4-3 16-4-3
        7. Manhattanville 13-5-1 16-6-1
        8. Norwich 11-4-2 14-4-4
        9. Salve Regina 10-5-2 12-8-3


        West Region Region Record Overall
        1. Lake Forest 13-1-4 15-2-4
        2. Wisconsin-River Falls 14-3-6 14-3-6
        3. Gustavus Adolphus 15-4-2 15-4-2
        4. St. Catherine 14-4-1 14-4-1
        5. Adrian 11-4-1 13-10-2
        6. Wisconsin-Superior 13-8-2 13-8-2

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          Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

          Superior in at 6 in the west huh....interesting!
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          • #6
            Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

            Originally posted by gojackets View Post
            Isn't that basically what I said??

            My question was...does playing out of region games, benefit Adrian...especially when they lose them.
            Say What? Just seeing if you read my posts. It could affect 5 of the 8 Secondary criteria. Rules for out of region scheduling are:

            1. If you schedule teams not in the mix for the FF, definitely DO NOT LOSE!
            2. If you schedule teams in the mix for the FF, schedule them at home and definitely WIN! (ie. see Plattsburgh scheduling technique. )

            Now in Adrian's case, they might do well (not) in region on the match-up's, but for an at-large bid under the Secondary criteria, they are hosed. Of the 14 teams at or above 500 in the east they have a 5-8-1 record in the Secondary criteria. That sir doesn't cut it. The NC$$ doesn't even have to go into a smoke filled room and drink single malt scotch to figure that out.

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            • #7
              Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

              The rankings are kind of interesting.

              Amherst over Elmira isn't that shocking I guess. Amherst has a much worse loss and tie than Elmira does, so I figured Platty would be 1, Elmira 2.



              It does look to me like its setting up for 3 western teams. Say what didn't put Trinity and St Kate into her(?) comparisons, so I'd be interested in seeing those comparisons(hint hint).

              If Favorites win conference tourneys

              Pool A
              Plattsburgh
              Amherst
              Norwich
              Lake Forest
              St. Kate/Gustavus/St. Thomas


              Pool C
              Elmira
              River Falls or Gustavus

              Lake Forest doesn't have proper hosting facilities..so it would be at one of the other two I guess...would Lake Forest still get the bye in the west, and the FF be at the winner of the other QF(?)
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              • #8
                Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

                Originally posted by gojackets View Post
                The rankings are kind of interesting.

                It does look to me like its setting up for 3 western teams. Say what didn't put Trinity and St Kate into her(?) comparisons, so I'd be interested in seeing those comparisons(hint hint).
                Say What? See up date to Bracketology. Because of the rankings, Trinity is now in and Middlebury is out. As to your question concerning St Kate, I indicated they were tied for 5th place per criteria in the west. With the official rankings out they are in 5th all by themselves ahead of St Thomas. I had to split my post in two just to get everything I had in. It didn't need to be longer by adding St Kate who is not remotely in the at-large competition.

                Three Western teams are certainly a possibility. But then the nominating committe hasn't gone to Bermuda yet to pick the teams. And I believe I saw that the members are still slightly stacked towards the eastern seaboard. Gee I wonder how this is going to work out in the end. Besides RF is the odd woman out if everything plays out as normal and LF win's the NCHA tournament.

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                • #9
                  Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

                  Are this weeks rankings posted? I am at school and can't go on the NCAA website.
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                  • #10
                    Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

                    Originally posted by Say What? View Post
                    Say What? Besides RF is the odd woman out if everything plays out as normal and LF win's the NCHA tournament.
                    I think if GAC wins the MIAC, River Falls has a chance. Trinity has a horrible SOS. It's so bad, it may trump their Win % advantage over River Falls. I think the NCAA could make a case for taking River Falls ahead of Trinity. I actually think they'd have a harder case against Middlebury (which may explain why the Eastern Committee has begun moving Middlebury up the ladder. Here is the comparison from USCHO.com:

                    Middlebury vs Wis.-River Falls
                    WIN 0.6739 0 0.7391 1
                    OWP 0.5778 1 0.5570 0
                    OOP 0.5162 1 0.5159 0
                    H2H 0- 0- 0 0 0- 0- 0 0
                    COP 0- 0- 0 0 0- 0- 0 0
                    RNK 2- 4- 3 0 3- 3- 3 1

                    The comparison is 2-2, but as above, Middlebury's win in the SOS criteria may trump a one game advantage in RNK and winning %....
                    Steve
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                    Plattsburgh State Class of '99

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                    • #11
                      Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

                      East Region Region Record Overall
                      1. Plattsburgh State 21-1-2 21-1-2
                      2. Amherst 17-2-4 18-2-4
                      3. Elmira 20-4-1 20-4-1
                      4. Trinity (Connecticut) 18-3-2 19-3-2
                      5. Manhattanville 14-5-1 18-6-1
                      6. Middlebury 14-6-3 15-6-3
                      7. Rochester Institute of Technology 16-4-3 18-4-3
                      8. Norwich 12-5-3 15-5-5
                      9. Massachusetts-Boston 12-7-0 16-9-0


                      West Region Region Record Overall
                      1. Lake Forest 15-1-4 17-2-4
                      2. Gustavus Adolphus 17-4-2 17-4-2
                      3. Wisconsin-River Falls 16-3-6 16-3-6
                      4. Adrian 11-4-1 13-10-2
                      5. St. Catherine 15-4-2 15-4-2
                      6. Wisconsin-Superior 15-8-2 15-8-2

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                      • #12
                        Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

                        Originally posted by Matt Rennell View Post
                        East Region Region Record Overall
                        1. Plattsburgh State 21-1-2 21-1-2
                        2. Amherst 17-2-4 18-2-4
                        3. Elmira 20-4-1 20-4-1
                        4. Trinity (Connecticut) 18-3-2 19-3-2
                        5. Manhattanville 14-5-1 18-6-1
                        6. Middlebury 14-6-3 15-6-3
                        7. Rochester Institute of Technology 16-4-3 18-4-3
                        8. Norwich 12-5-3 15-5-5
                        9. Massachusetts-Boston 12-7-0 16-9-0


                        West Region Region Record Overall
                        1. Lake Forest 15-1-4 17-2-4
                        2. Gustavus Adolphus 17-4-2 17-4-2
                        3. Wisconsin-River Falls 16-3-6 16-3-6
                        4. Adrian 11-4-1 13-10-2
                        5. St. Catherine 15-4-2 15-4-2
                        6. Wisconsin-Superior 15-8-2 15-8-2
                        well thats interesting. Gustavus jumps River Falls when both win...did GAC's SOS go up a little for playing SMU and River Falls go down for playing Marian??
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                        • #13
                          Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

                          Originally posted by gojackets View Post
                          well thats interesting. Gustavus jumps River Falls when both win...did GAC's SOS go up a little for playing SMU and River Falls go down for playing Marian??
                          Good question. After seeing both play River Falls is a much better team. My question is why is Adrian ranked so high?

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                            Originally posted by westeast View Post
                            Good question. After seeing both play River Falls is a much better team. My question is why is Adrian ranked so high?
                            In the case of Adrian...all of their games out east don't count in the west rankings. They only consider games against teams within your region. They are 11-4-1 within the region which ranks them high. If they were ever in for a comparison with another team and things were close, they would lose out if it went to secondary criteria, because them games count then.
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                            • #15
                              Re: NCAA D3 Rankings

                              Originally posted by gojackets View Post
                              In the case of Adrian...all of their games out east don't count in the west rankings. They only consider games against teams within your region. They are 11-4-1 within the region which ranks them high. If they were ever in for a comparison with another team and things were close, they would lose out if it went to secondary criteria, because them games count then.

                              Thanks, very interesting on how that works vs ranking..Now I'm really looking at schedules,haha

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