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  • New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

    Boredom means a new poll prediction...


    1) Oswego 15-1-0
    2) Plattsburgh 9-1-2
    3) Norwich 8-0-2
    4) St. Norbert 10-2-1
    5) St. Scholastica 8-2-2
    6) Hamline 8-1-2
    7) Middlebury 5-1-2
    8) Elmira 10-3-0
    9) Williams 6-0-1
    10) Adrian 10-2-0
    11) Gustavus Adolphus 9-3-1
    12) Wis-River Falls 7-5-1
    13) Wis-Superior 7-5-1
    14) Amherst 7-2-0
    15) Curry 7-2-1



    Should be interesting to see where Adrian & Hamline fall...
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    Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

    Originally posted by Ozz View Post
    Boredom means a new poll prediction...


    1) Oswego 15-1-0
    2) Plattsburgh 9-1-2
    3) Norwich 8-0-2
    4) St. Norbert 10-2-1
    5) St. Scholastica 8-2-2
    6) Hamline 8-1-2
    7) Middlebury 5-1-2
    8) Elmira 10-3-0
    9) Williams 6-0-1
    10) Adrian 10-2-0
    11) Gustavus Adolphus 9-3-1
    12) Wis-River Falls 7-5-1
    13) Wis-Superior 7-5-1
    14) Amherst 7-2-0
    15) Curry 7-2-1



    Should be interesting to see where Adrian & Hamline fall...

    Honestly, flip Elmira and Middlebury, and I have to agree with this. It'll be interesting to see how the first place votes fall. Adrian loses their 2, Norwich probably loses 1 or both of their 2. Do they all go to Oswego? Does Plattsburgh pick some back up? Does St. Norbert get their first place vote from december, and do they pick any up? Like I said, it's going to be interesting.
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    • #3
      Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

      Originally posted by CARDS_rule_the_Burgh View Post
      Honestly, flip Elmira and Middlebury, and I have to agree with this. It'll be interesting to see how the first place votes fall. Adrian loses their 2, Norwich probably loses 1 or both of their 2. Do they all go to Oswego? Does Plattsburgh pick some back up? Does St. Norbert get their first place vote from december, and do they pick any up? Like I said, it's going to be interesting.
      They should go to Platty or Oswego...Do the voters value Oswego's win over a top ten team or Platty's two dominating wins more? I think that's basically what it comes down to.
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      • #4
        Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

        My thoughts:

        1.Oswego
        2.Plattsburgh
        3.Norwich
        4.St. Norbert
        5.St. Scholastica
        6.Hamline
        7.Elmira
        8.Middlebury
        9.Williams
        10.Gustavus Adolphus
        11.Adrian
        12.River Falls
        13.Superior
        14.Salem State
        15.Amherst
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        • #5
          Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

          I think you will see it given to Oswego, but if Plattsburgh puts down Elmira you could very well see more 1st place votes go to Plattsburgh.
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          • #6
            Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

            Plattsburgh's wins were impressive (scoring wise, margin of victory etc.) but neither of them came against the #6 ranked team in the nation.

            Oswego should pick up the first place votes.

            Plattsburgh however has a chance to steal some back though if they sweep Norwich and Elmira, which would be an impressive week especially with both being on the road.
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            • #7
              Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

              Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
              Plattsburgh's wins were impressive (scoring wise, margin of victory etc.) but neither of them came against the #6 ranked team in the nation.

              Oswego should pick up the first place votes.

              Plattsburgh however has a chance to steal some back though if they sweep Norwich and Elmira, which would be an impressive week especially with both being on the road.
              IF, big IF, Plattsburgh does sweep you could see a tie for first....especially if Adrian pulls the upset...
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              • #8
                Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                Originally posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
                IF, big IF, Plattsburgh does sweep you could see a tie for first....especially if Adrian pulls the upset...
                As impressive as they would be, I don't see Plattsburgh's winning both games as meriting placement either alongside or above Oswego without the second qualifier in your post coming to pass as well. If Adrian takes down Oswego, then fine; if Oswego wins that matchup, then they still own a better record than Plattsburgh and a solid head-to-head win, both regardless of what Plattsburgh does. I don't see the logic in giving anyone but them the #1 nod in that case.
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                • #9
                  Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                  1 Oswego (19) 15-1-0 299 1
                  2 Plattsburgh 9-1-2 265 2
                  3 Norwich ( 1) 8-0-2 259 3
                  4 St. Norbert 10-2-1 238 5
                  5 St. Scholastica 8-2-2 193 7
                  6 Elmira 10-3-0 192 6
                  7 Hamline 8-1-2 190 10
                  8 Middlebury 5-1-2 165 8
                  9 Adrian 10-2-0 127 4
                  10 Williams 6-0-1 125 11
                  11 Gustavus Adolphus 9-3-1 111 12
                  12 Curry 7-2-1 48 9
                  13 Wis.-River Falls 7-5-1 40 14
                  14 Amherst 7-2-0 37 NR
                  15 Wentworth 8-1-1 27 13
                  Others Receiving Votes: Wis.-Superior 24, Salem State 17, Colby 16, Manhattanville
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                  • #10
                    Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                    Originally posted by jerrynu26 View Post
                    1 Oswego (19) 15-1-0 299 1
                    2 Plattsburgh 9-1-2 265 2
                    3 Norwich ( 1) 8-0-2 259 3
                    4 St. Norbert 10-2-1 238 5
                    5 St. Scholastica 8-2-2 193 7
                    6 Elmira 10-3-0 192 6
                    7 Hamline 8-1-2 190 10
                    8 Middlebury 5-1-2 165 8
                    9 Adrian 10-2-0 127 4
                    10 Williams 6-0-1 125 11
                    11 Gustavus Adolphus 9-3-1 111 12
                    12 Curry 7-2-1 48 9
                    13 Wis.-River Falls 7-5-1 40 14
                    14 Amherst 7-2-0 37 NR
                    15 Wentworth 8-1-1 27 13
                    Others Receiving Votes: Wis.-Superior 24, Salem State 17, Colby 16, Manhattanville
                    5-7 only separated by 3 points. Although I still don't understand how beating MSOE by 2 and losing by the same margin to Oswego is more impressive than beating Adrian twice.
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                    • #11
                      Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                      Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
                      5-7 only separated by 3 points. Although I still don't understand how beating MSOE by 2 and losing by the same margin to Oswego is more impressive than beating Adrian twice.
                      It's not...but I guess rankings should only be based on the most recent weeked?
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                      • #12
                        Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                        Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
                        5-7 only separated by 3 points. Although I still don't understand how beating MSOE by 2 and losing by the same margin to Oswego is more impressive than beating Adrian twice.
                        Beating Adrian twice, back to back, and substantially - could lead some to suspect that Adrian for whatever reasons just had a bad weekend, not indicative of their actual potential. Note, IMO, the "reasons", include possibly just being to overconfident and then pressured ).
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                        • #13
                          Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                          I thought possibly that Potsdam might get a vote or two after tying Norwich and beating New England College, especially after tying Plattsburgh at the end of the semester?

                          I see Fredonia gets a vote, sure they have a better record but what did they do? Also, four of those wins are vs Lebanon Valley and Johnson and Wales. I guess maybe because they hold a win vs Potsdam calls for not votes for them? Still, Potsdam has ties vs high ranked teams.

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                          • #14
                            Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                            One has to wonder how in the world Norwich received a 1st place vote. That's got to be heart over brain. Nothing particularly against a good team of Cadets,but really!
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                            • #15
                              Re: New Poll Predictions - 1/4/10

                              Originally posted by Stormy8174 View Post
                              I thought possibly that Potsdam might get a vote or two after tying Norwich and beating New England College, especially after tying Plattsburgh at the end of the semester?

                              I see Fredonia gets a vote, sure they have a better record but what did they do? Also, four of those wins are vs Lebanon Valley and Johnson and Wales. I guess maybe because they hold a win vs Potsdam calls for not votes for them? Still, Potsdam has ties vs high ranked teams.
                              I know Oswego needed some late goals against Fredonia, but still won what 7-4? Plattsburgh dominated winning 10-2.....having seen both teams (Potsdam/Fredonia) I think you will see Potsdam higher up in the standings...and I don't care about the H-2-H one goal loss....I think you will see Fredonia go on their normal 2nd semester swoon, and Potsdam will grab a few extra points (hopefully Oswego) Still I don't think either are in the same zone as Plattsburgh/Oswego....yet.....
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