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Don 222
11-22-2009, 08:20 AM
Final Standing and Thoughts

1. Norwich = Great Coach, great Frosh Fwds, and tradition wins the league again!

2. Castleton = Same thing above except they are starting a tradition and Coach Todd is getting better Norwich gets them by a point again.

3. Babson = Post season success all year long Coach Rice is very good

4. NEC = European flavor is tough to prepare for

5. Skidmore = System is in place will be a solid performer

6. Umass Boston = Poor coaching but has some very good talent

7. SME = Big losses from last years team not replaced

8. St. Anselm = Good Freshmen and Solid goalies will be competitive all year

9. St. Mikes = Need to go D-III

10. UNE = Will be much better than most think



# 6 Umass Boston = You state "Poor Coaching " . You sure you didn''t mix up #1 and # 6 ? Boy , how you forget quickly ! Seems to me Umass Boston I recall the number 8 seed last year knocked off your great coach in round 1 . And I would have to say Norwich surely had the talent over Umass ! Now that's Poor Coaching !!! Coach Belisle has come along way with the UMass program in the last three years , where as others with superior talent have
come far short of there expectations ! That's how you should evaluate a coach .

CROSBYNU63
11-22-2009, 09:33 AM
Last years win by UMass Boston had nothing to do with coaching, can you spell Goaltender.:)


# 6 Umass Boston = You state "Poor Coaching " . You sure you didn''t mix up #1 and # 6 ? Boy , how you forget quickly ! Seems to me Umass Boston I recall the number 8 seed last year knocked off your great coach in round 1 . And I would have to say Norwich surely had the talent over Umass ! Now that's Poor Coaching !!! Coach Belisle has come along way with the UMass program in the last three years , where as others with superior talent have
come far short of there expectations ! That's how you should evaluate a coach .

CROSBYNU63
11-22-2009, 09:36 AM
Now listen Hawk, if you are going to cheer for Castleton at least know that they are the Spartans not the Spartins.:D :D



Had a chance to catch the Castleton/NEC game that ended in a tie. Both teams seem the same to me as last year; NEC very skilled with European forwards and Castleton an agressive checking team that likes to get close to the net. Castleton seems to have trouble scoring just like last year. The Castleton Spartins pregame show was second to none with there 20X20+- video screen showing a film entitled "What it takes to be a Spartin". The video shows wieght training, practice, key goals, and getting ready for a game. Outstanding.

Some interesting results in the East with the 2 wins by Norwich and Skidmore, UMASS Bostin win over Colby, and Babson loss to Bowdoin.

hockeyfan77
11-22-2009, 12:46 PM
Last years win by UMass Boston had nothing to do with coaching, can you spell Goaltender.:)


A goaltender is part of a hockey team right????? :)

Don 222
11-22-2009, 01:08 PM
Last years win by UMass Boston had nothing to do with coaching, can you spell Goaltender.:)

Can you spell "COACH " . The goaltender had nothing to do with the loss . Umass won the game 1-0 . I don't think you can blame the goalie for that !
He was out coached , by a far less talented team . The number 1 team in
the division lost to the number 8 team ,and could only manage one goal .
With the talent that Norwich had on there roster last year and the success they showed by beating the two teams that ended up in the final game in the final four , the loss to Umass Boston falls on one guy = COACH .

CROSBYNU63
11-22-2009, 01:23 PM
I was reffering to the umass goalie:rolleyes: Cadets had like 39 shots on net compared to about 25 for Boston. Just curious were you at the game?


Can you spell "COACH " . The goaltender had nothing to do with the loss . Umass won the game 1-0 . I don't think you can blame the goalie for that !
He was out coached , by a far less talented team . The number 1 team in
the division lost to the number 8 team ,and could only manage one goal .
With the talent that Norwich had on there roster last year and the success they showed by beating the two teams that ended up in the final game in the final four , the loss to Umass Boston falls on one guy = COACH .

Don 222
11-22-2009, 02:44 PM
I was reffering to the umass goalie:rolleyes: Cadets had like 39 shots on net compared to about 25 for Boston. Just curious were you at the game?

I agree Umass goalie did stand on his head a good reason why they did so well during playoffs . Norwich had substantially more talent and with Platty knocked out they could of made a serious run at the championship . They showed during the season that they could beat the two teams that ended up in the final game ! There chances last yr were better than the yr before as there was no way they were going to beat St Norbert and Kyle Jones . I'm sure McShane was totally disgusted and realized he blew a golden opportunity for another championship . Hot goalie on a number 8 seed
( during playoffs ) still should never win a game at Norwich's home rink ! :rolltoes:

OneTimer27
11-23-2009, 01:30 AM
I agree Umass goalie did stand on his head a good reason why they did so well during playoffs . Norwich had substantially more talent and with Platty knocked out they could of made a serious run at the championship . They showed during the season that they could beat the two teams that ended up in the final game ! There chances last yr were better than the yr before as there was no way they were going to beat St Norbert and Kyle Jones . I'm sure McShane was totally disgusted and realized he blew a golden opportunity for another championship . Hot goalie on a number 8 seed
( during playoffs ) still should never win a game at Norwich's home rink ! :rolltoes:

I wouldnt say a 1-0 loss is poor coaching. I also wouldn't say that not winning a national championship is a blown opportunity. Theres what, 70 teams in D3 hockey? The odds are never favorable no matter how good you are when you have to rise above so many teams just to make it to the tourney. I was glad to see umass win, but to say one coach is better than another based on one 1-0 game seems rediculous.

Don 222
11-23-2009, 06:12 AM
My response is not based on one game , and this is the guy who pointed
out Great Coach and Poor Coach . I would say getting beat by the number 8 seed in your home rink during playoffs 1-0 is poor preperation for
a playoff game . And yes you are right very difficult to win or make it to
final four any year , but boy that was a great opportunity missed ! There are
not many years when you beat the two teams that are in the final game during the season , and then get knocked out in round 1. :eek:





Final Standing and Thoughts

1. Norwich = Great Coach, great Frosh Fwds, and tradition wins the league again!

2. Castleton = Same thing above except they are starting a tradition and Coach Todd is getting better Norwich gets them by a point again.

3. Babson = Post season success all year long Coach Rice is very good

4. NEC = European flavor is tough to prepare for

5. Skidmore = System is in place will be a solid performer

6. Umass Boston = Poor coaching but has some very good talent

7. SME = Big losses from last years team not replaced

8. St. Anselm = Good Freshmen and Solid goalies will be competitive all year

9. St. Mikes = Need to go D-III

10. UNE = Will be much better than most think

hawk
11-23-2009, 07:11 AM
My response is not based on one game , and this is the guy who pointed
out Great Coach and Poor Coach . I would say getting beat by the number 8 seed in your home rink during playoffs 1-0 is poor preperation for
a playoff game . And yes you are right very difficult to win or make it to
final four any year , but boy that was a great opportunity missed ! There are
not many years when you beat the two teams that are in the final game during the season , and then get knocked out in round 1. :eek:

After watching all of Norwich's home games last year it appeared that they didn't have enough production up front to beat the top teams on a consistant basis. I believe that Norwich lost one of its best forwards mid term which reduced production; also there was an offensive defensemen from Quebec who I believed left the previous year who generated a lot of points. I look at last year as a transition year for Norwich. The team recruited something like 11 forwards this year, many of which have offensive potential.

play by play
11-23-2009, 09:28 AM
Went the NEC/Skidmore and NEC/Castleton games this past weekend......

NEC was inconsistent at Skidmore. NEC opened and closed the game with a great offensive showing and was awful in the middle of the game. Skidmore started the game with a handful of penalties but settled down and played more disciplined and got the win.

NEC/Castleton was an entertaining, physical, back and forth game. Both teams looked like they brought their "A" game. Both goalies (Harvey - 32 saves for NEC) (McNary - 27 saves for Castleton)

What teams/games did the rest of you see?

How did Norwich vs UNE go?

hockeyfan77
11-23-2009, 06:12 PM
What teams/games did the rest of you see?

How did Norwich vs UNE go?



Saw St Mike's/Norwich/USM this weekend....The game Friday was brutal at times and had no flow but the USM/Norwich game was pretty good...

OneTimer27
11-23-2009, 11:03 PM
Saw St Mike's/Norwich/USM this weekend....The game Friday was brutal at times and had no flow but the USM/Norwich game was pretty good...

How is USM going to be this year? they look young on paper, but thats not always a bad thing. Hoping they have a good year and can do some damage in the playoffs this year.

hockeyfan77
11-24-2009, 05:33 PM
How is USM going to be this year? they look young on paper, but thats not always a bad thing. Hoping they have a good year and can do some damage in the playoffs this year.


They need to play a full 60 minutes: they beat St Mike's playing 10 minutes of hockey and lost to Norwich because they took the first 10 minutes of the 2nd off(with the help of a goal scored when the net was 3 feet off)...All in all a small sample size but I do like what I see.. The goaltending was pretty good and since I don't like to name players on this site I won't but I think a couple of FR could develop into really good players....

PSUC92
12-08-2009, 10:20 PM
What's up with Castleton? 1-4-1 and no East wins? They got blown out twice on the Maine trip. Very surprised after last year's success.

hawk
12-09-2009, 07:38 AM
What's up with Castleton? 1-4-1 and no East wins? They got blown out twice on the Maine trip. Very surprised after last year's success.

I have only seen one game, Castleton vs NEC, and Castleton looked little changed from last year. Just my opinion but Castleton lacked finishers and had problems scoring goals. Goaltending looked like it could improve. The slump suprised me because I thought they would challange Norwich this year for top stop in the East. They appeared to have a good recruiting year and were following a season in which they defeated both Norwich and Middlebury. However Castleton and others in the Ecac East will soon find that this years Norwich team is nothing like last years team. This one can score goals like Norwich teams a few years ago and has a lot of debth.

hockeyfan77
12-09-2009, 01:53 PM
I have only seen one game, Castleton vs NEC, and Castleton looked little changed from last year. Just my opinion but Castleton lacked finishers and had problems scoring goals. Goaltending looked like it could improve. The slump suprised me because I thought they would challange Norwich this year for top stop in the East. They appeared to have a good recruiting year and were following a season in which they defeated both Norwich and Middlebury. However Castleton and others in the Ecac East will soon find that this years Norwich team is nothing like last years team. This one can score goals like Norwich teams a few years ago and has a lot of debth.

Wasn't it last year or two years ago the Castleton started the same way and finished strong...They will be there in the end...It's early...

PSUC92
12-10-2009, 09:34 PM
Wasn't it last year or two years ago the Castleton started the same way and finished strong...They will be there in the end...It's early...

Maybe, but expectations might be a little higher this year (they were not picked second a year or two ago). It seems that every point in the East is big. Either way, should be a good game with Skidmore this weekend. Hope to be there.

hawkhockey
12-14-2009, 10:03 AM
I am hearing that the NCAA will vote, in January,to allow or disallow DIII games against DII opponents to count for purposes of league/conference and NCAA titles .In a sense, they are going to vote to eliminate DII for Hockey purposes only and adopt a DI and DII/DIII configuration.
anyone have any thoughts,insights on this.
My sense is if the NCAA continues to disallow the games to count and maintain its moratorium on new colleges in DIII, then a number of DII effected schools will just drop the sport as an intercollegiate offering.