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    In developing the WCHA’s five year schedule, Serratore said the cleanest option was chosen. “Basically the traditional travel partners will remain the same, with the addition of BSU being paired with UNO,” he said.

    In 2010-11, BSU and UNO will be joined by UND and SCSU to form a four-team cluster. The Beavers will play each team in the cluster four times (home and home series) for a total of 12 games. BSU will then play the remaining eight teams in the league two game each, for a total of 16 games, with eight on the road and eight at home.

    The cluster mates will rotate in each of the five seasons. In 2011-12 BSU/UNO will be joined by Colorado College and Denver, in 2012-13 Michigan Tech and UMD, 2013-14 Alaska-Anchorage and Mankato, and 2014-15 Minnesota and Wisconsin.

    Under this schedule every team in the league will play every other team at home three out of five years – except for the travel partners who will play each other every year, Serratore explained. “Over the course of the five year schedule, everybody plays each other the same amount of times – home and away,” he said.

    For North Dakota in 2010-11, the Sioux will play SCSU, BSU and UNO home and away. In addition, North Dakota will host Alaska-Anchorage, Denver, Minnesota and UMD. On the road for league games UND will travel to Colorado College, Michigan Tech, Mankato and Wisconsin.

    In 2011-12, Minnesota and Wisconsin will join UND/SCSU as cluster mates. In league games UND will host SCSU, CC, Tech, Mankato, Minnesota, UNO and Wisconsin. Road games include SCSU, UAA, BSU, Denver, Minnesota, UMD and Wisconsin.
    full 2010-'11 schedule
    Current NCAA D-I rinks I've been to:

    AHA:
    B1G: UMich, MSU, UMinn, Notre Dame, OSU, UWisc
    CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
    ECAC:
    HEA: UMass
    NCHC: Miami, UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
    Independant: ASU


    Inactive: UAH, ASU, BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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    Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

    The good news: Probably the best way to cluster the teams.

    The bad news: Obviously the schedules are going to be massively unbalanced. I suspect we'll see some runaway MacNaughton winners, based in large part on what the clustermates are that season.

    All in all, I think the WCHA did a good job working out a difficult situation. No doubt certain programs are going to benefit big-time from this and others not so much.

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    • #3
      Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

      Realized I forgot to post the article that quote was from:

      http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/event/.../id/100012047/
      Current NCAA D-I rinks I've been to:

      AHA:
      B1G: UMich, MSU, UMinn, Notre Dame, OSU, UWisc
      CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
      ECAC:
      HEA: UMass
      NCHC: Miami, UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
      Independant: ASU


      Inactive: UAH, ASU, BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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      • #4
        Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

        What the new WCHA schedule could mean to each program...

        Minnesota - More games in state, lower travel costs and more opportunities for fans around the state see the team. Having Wisconsin as a clustermate means that the Gophers will always have one of the most challenging schedules in the league.

        Wisconsin
        - Knowing that DU and/or UND will have easier schedules almost every year, while the Badgers draw the Gophers, will make winning the MacNaughton tougher than ever. Since they've only won the MacNaughton three times, but have 6 NC's probably means Sconnie won't be too bothered.

        Bemidji - The big winner in the schedule sweepstakes. Not only do they get into the WCHA, but they don't get stuck with UAA. Serratore obviously has compromising photos of McLeod.

        UNO - Probably would have preferred Mankato as a clustermate, but Bemidji may be an easier opponent so Deano won't be too upset as the Mavricks try and establish themselves in the league.

        CC - If the recruiting continues to tail off, CC will be stuck playing DU and may really struggle in the "new" WCHA. Upgrades at SCSU, UMD & even UNO could really push CC out of the WCHA "elite."

        DU - DU rise as a national program has seemingly come at the expense of CC. If CC is able to right the ship, DU will be hard pressed to keep up with the Sioux in the MacNaughton race each season. DU will suffer at the gate with less games against the WCHA elite.

        UND - More easy games on the WCHA schedule should keep UND as the elite program in the WCHA. No team stands to gain as much from the unbalanced schedule as UND. The only fly in the ointment is if St. Cloud continues to make strides as a program.

        SCSU - Having to play UND four times each season is brutal. Nonetheless, SCSU seems poised to become the 5th best program in the WCHA at CC's expense. Knowing that UMD has an easier schedule most years will be bothersome.

        UAA - Brutal travel, an inability to keep elite Alaskan born players in-state and a slight decline in the BCHL make recruiting difficult up North. On the bright side more games against Bemidji, UNO and Mankato and less games against DU, UM, UND & Sconnie should bring some much need wins for the program.

        Mankato - The new schedule isn't much help to the Mavericks. Somehow they still don't get an in-state rival and now will have even less big revenue dates against the Gophers. MSU was the school most negatively affected by the new schedule.

        Tech - Gets to keep UMD as a "Lake Superior Rival." Brutal economy in Michigan and the worst barn in the WCHA won't help recruiting. Tech faces the prospect of battling Bemidji as the 12th place doormat.

        UMD - A revamped building and easier games against Tech, will help fuel the Bulldogs rise in the WCHA. They are poised to battle SCSU for the 5th spot in the WCHA recruiting pecking order.
        Last edited by dggoddard; 09-30-2009, 11:22 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

          Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
          Minnesota - More games in state, lower travel costs and more opportunities for fans around the state see the team. Having Wisconsin as a clustermate means that the Gophers will always have one of the most challenging schedules in the league.
          Becky doesn’t typically give the Gophers too much trouble, and adding more games with the in-state little sisters is a bonus.

          Raise your hand if you don’t have a sense of humor

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          • #6
            Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

            UMD fans breathe a sigh of relief that they are not paired up with BSU.
            tUMD Hockey

            "And there is a banana running around the DECC." "Well you don't see that every day..."

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              Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

              Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
              What the new WCHA schedule could mean to each program...

              UND - More easy games on the WCHA schedule should keep UND as the elite program in the WCHA. No team stands to gain as much from the unbalanced schedule as UND. The only fly in the ointment is if St. Cloud continues to make strides as a program.

              SCSU - Having to play UND four times each season is brutal. Nonetheless, SCSU seems poised to become the 5th best program in the WCHA at CC's expense. Knowing that UMD has an easier schedule most years will be bothersome.
              Huh? How does UND gain the most by the unbalanced schedule? According to your writeup, the only "elite" teams year in and out are MN, UW, UND and DU, and I won't even disagree with that. But there's no way the WCHA was gonna break up MN-UW or DU-CC. So, since they can't be paired with another elite, they get SCSU, which you basically stated is the best non-elite program in the WCHA.

              Also, playing UND is tough, no doubt, but we've been playing them 4 times a year in the regular season since 2002, so its nothing new. And while SCSU is not at UND's level, in the last four years they've gone 5-7-4, which is a respectable .4375 winning percentage. Not bad considering MN and DU only have a .375 winning percentage against UND over the same time period.
              tUMD is Jan Brady per Brenthoven. Whew.... thanks for clearing THAT up.

              Best USCHO quotes to date:

              "UND/DU will realize that their party sucks, because the easterners only want to drink Zima." - BPH

              "It is too bad that aaron marvin was a senior so he can't go after the rest of the sioux". - bigblue_dl

              "I would rather play the blackhawks than you right now." - dogs2012

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              • #8
                Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

                Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
                blah blah blah
                So what you're saying is you hate CC. How exactly has their recruiting tailed off? They have definitely had a couple tough breaks this offseason, but I don't think that translates to their recruiting going down the tubes. They will be fine. Who holds the Gold Pan again? (Hint: It is not the team on the rise at CC's expense)

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                • #9
                  Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

                  Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                  So what you're saying is you hate CC. How exactly has their recruiting tailed off? They have definitely had a couple tough breaks this offseason, but I don't think that translates to their recruiting going down the tubes. They will be fine. Who holds the Gold Pan again? (Hint: It is not the team on the rise at CC's expense)
                  To be fair, Northern Michigan owns a much better 08-09 record than Michigan Tech, but we won the Ramada Cup (that apparently no longer exists, except when Northern wins it... )

                  A championship series between rivals has absolutely nothing to do with a team's yearly performance.
                  Augsburg College: Wait, there's another D-3 school whose name starts with "A"?

                  Originally posted by The Darkness:
                  I don't see you asking Beer Pong Horn if he practices a religion from the beer continent.


                  Originally posted by bigblue_dl:
                  Wow. Tech fans are such a-holes. I think I saw Beer Pong Horn kick a blind puppy once.


                  Boosh Factor (6-27-12): Summer Vacation

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                  • #10
                    Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

                    Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                    So what you're saying is you hate CC. How exactly has their recruiting tailed off? They have definitely had a couple tough breaks this offseason, but I don't think that translates to their recruiting going down the tubes. They will be fine. Who holds the Gold Pan again? (Hint: It is not the team on the rise at CC's expense)
                    Had CC been able to hold on to John Moore and Colton St. Clair, and had CC's freshman class last year produced more than they actually did, I think DG would not be saying that CC's recruiting has tailed off. He's not saying that CC has gone down the tubes into failure territory, but the reality is is that I do think CC is not recently landing the numbers of impact players they once landed with more regularity, hence the "tailed off" is in relation to perceptions of talent at other top programs. The reason why the WCHA coaches picked CC eighth this year has everything to do with lack of production from recent recruits, as well as the many seniors that have not produced very well to date. That's not to say that CC won't be competitive, but the perception of talent level there has dropped recently....whether or not they can overcome this perception remains to be seen.

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                    • #11
                      Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

                      Originally posted by jerphisch View Post
                      So what you're saying is you hate CC. How exactly has their recruiting tailed off?
                      INCH's Recruiting Rankings For CC


                      2009 Unranked

                      2008 Unranked

                      2007 Unranked

                      2006 #5

                      2005 #9

                      2004 Unranked
                      Last edited by dggoddard; 09-30-2009, 04:54 PM.

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                    • #12
                      Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

                      Originally posted by dggoddard View Post

                      UMD - A revamped building and easier games against Tech, will help fuel the Bulldogs rise in the WCHA. They are poised to battle SCSU for the 5th spot in the WCHA recruiting pecking order.
                      IMO, with an addition of a brand new arena I fully expect more elite northern Minnesota players to play in their backyard. The arena has always been a sticking point and with a new arena I wouldn't be suprised if UMD consistently finishes in the top 5 year in and year out. They have the most to gain from a new arena and a new WCHA.
                      Slap Shot - 444 might want to consider a restraining order.
                      dggoddard - Minnesota is THE ELITE Program in all of college hockey.
                      wasmania - you have to be the very best to get ice time with the great gophers!

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                      • #13
                        Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

                        Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
                        Tech - Gets to keep UMD as a "Lake Superior Rival." Brutal economy in Michigan and the worst barn in the WCHA won't help recruiting. Tech faces the prospect of battling Bemidji as the 12th place doormat.
                        Have not been aware of the renovations going on in the MacInnes? They have been working seriously to improve facilities. I'm quite certain that much of the backend facilities are nicer than many of the other WCHA teams. Just this year they've added 10 suites and 2 skyboxes to the west end of the arena. In the near future there are plans to acquire a video screen that will be higher resolution and larger than both UND's and the UW's.
                        Originally posted by SCSU Euro
                        What are you TALKING about? Best fans, best travelling, best insults nobody else understands, best talking in nerdy code. MTU rocks at like everything but winning hockey games.

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                        • #14
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                          Originally posted by Flashy Man View Post
                          Have not been aware of the renovations going on in the MacInnes? They have been working seriously to improve facilities. I'm quite certain that much of the backend facilities are nicer than many of the other WCHA teams. Just this year they've added 10 suites and 2 skyboxes to the west end of the arena. In the near future there are plans to acquire a video screen that will be higher resolution and larger than both UND's and the UW's.
                          Agreed - the barn is barely a factor in Tech's recruiting situation, especially if you've ever seen the results of all the money poured into the locker room and player facilities in the past decade. Even the 'female situation' is not a huge issue due to the gradually improving ratio and hockey players always being the BMOC. The main obstacles will always be two factors that will never change - difficult academics and remote, small town location. Both of which require finding players who are a 'fit'.

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                            Re: WCHA 2010-'11 through '14-'15 "rival pairs" announced

                            Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
                            INCH's Recruiting Rankings For CC


                            2009 Unranked

                            2008 Unranked

                            2007 Unranked

                            2006 #5

                            2005 #9

                            2004 Unranked
                            Strange, even the 05 and 06 class listed by INCH highlighted such players as Drew O'connell and Addison Deboer. As it turns out to date they were/have been simple role players. Good thing the game is still played on the ice.

                            By the way, Denver should win the 09/10 National Championship.
                            World Arena North (aka Magness Arena on the campus of Denver State University) where the Colorado College Tigers are 17-11-5 all time against the Metro State Pioneers. Thank you Denver Roadrunners for building a second home for CC!!

                            World Arena North lives on!! Go Tigers!!

                            CC Tiger fans join us at: http://cctigerhockey.yuku.com

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