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Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
11-19-2009, 08:46 PM
First the annoying:

Well, Mike Johnson must have had the better practice this morning. If only the goalies would have good practices on a more consistent basis.

While I was going to hold our captain accountable for the CFB, apparently, I have to hold the CCHA refs accountable. No penalty was even going to be assessed. How do you issue a major after the fact? Oh wait, Shegos is in stripes...

However, I can hold Ian Cole accountable for his CFB as it was the right call. Your team is already down a guy... please, for God's sake, do the right thing.

No penalties in the first 20 minutes, followed by 2 five-minute majors and a minor during the 2nd five-minute major? (I know the first major was a bad call, but still...) What the crap is up with this "disciplined" team? No wonder they can't hold a 3rd period lead.

Now for the not-annoying:

Yay for the PK during those huge man-down minutes.

Yay for Kyle Palmieri. Finally.

Yay for Mike Johnson.

Gigantic yay for Dan Kissel. The hardest working guy in blue and gold.

I still hate shootouts.

Nice job, boys for stealing that extra point from the red-hot guys in green.

Let's work hard to stay disciplined and aim for a regulation win Sunday.

yuenight_for_IRISHICER
11-19-2009, 08:53 PM
didn't watch the game but according to what I heard they played like the team I used to watch before the tying goal... and they were tough to kill the rest of the game... Still worried about the finishing, but with those pp to kill I don't have much to blame them for lack of offense.

8 penalties 2 misconducts... Jackson's team? Thang's misconduct call is dumb, but still, wow...

Johnson is impressive in shootout... I saw the ghost of Jordan Pearce back in net:rolleyes:

Waiting for shootouts challenges my heart... even though Billy claimed he likes it.

IrishHockeyFan
11-19-2009, 10:21 PM
Odd that is seems as if both sets of fans are really not happy with the outcome tonight. I know I'm not. Once again Notre Dame cannot score enough. Once again they let go of a lead, and once again it is in the last period. Once again they force an almost unwinnable situation on their netminder in the third by forcing him to come up big killing 2-man disadvantages and majors.

I knew the team lost some great talent after last season. Could it be they simply lost a lot more than what they have left? It sure looks like it so far. At least on the offensive side of the ice. No way should this be a team that scores 2 or fewer goals in 9 of their 13 games so far. Only the Bowling Green Falcons are scoring at a more anemic pace so far than are the Irish in the CCHA, and they are near the bottom on offense overall in the NCAAs.

The way this season started seemed to be reminiscent of the way the game against Bemidji started last March. A little hick-up of a goal and before you knew it, they were losing 5-1 and never really got started. A loss to Huntsville in a game Notre Dame really should have won to open the season and I'm still waiting for this team to really get started. It seems to be a complete mystery as to what it will take for the offense to come around. At some point one or more of the goalies will hit a rough stretch and give up some soft ones. And at 2 goals a game you won't win any of them when that happens. So anytime they want to kick it into gear would be OK.

crazy_guy_in_section_1
11-19-2009, 10:22 PM
Johnson is impressive in shootout... I saw the ghost of Jordan Pearce back in net:rolleyes:


I wouldn't go that far.... he did play a heck of a game! still we need some consistency!

owslachief
11-19-2009, 10:32 PM
State could get NOTHING clean in front of Johnson tonight. Credit goes to ND, whether it was lifting sticks or taking away passing lanes.
You're guys played with more purpose - clearly.

yuenight_for_IRISHICER
11-20-2009, 05:46 AM
I wouldn't go that far.... he did play a heck of a game! still we need some consistency!

hey I only point to the SO....

I know it's not that easy to get another Jordan...

Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
11-20-2009, 07:38 PM
Here I am checking scores and Mr. JJfP poses a head scratcher, "Guess what former ND player is playing right now for the Florida Panthers?! You'll never guess." Victor Oreskovich. :eek: Nice to see he's exorcised those demons.

Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
11-21-2009, 11:50 AM
Congrats to Christian Hanson (http://www.torontomarlies.com/news/news.asp?story_id=1208) on his first professional hat trick! He's tearin' it up for the Marlies. I bet Phil Kessel wouldn't mind a linemate like him.

IrishHockeyFan
11-21-2009, 12:12 PM
Here I am checking scores and Mr. JJfP poses a head scratcher, "Guess what former ND player is playing right now for the Florida Panthers?! You'll never guess." Victor Oreskovich. :eek: Nice to see he's exorcised those demons.

Some media outlets reported that he not only returned to Notre Dame (that I knew) but that he also graduated, which is -- if correct -- something I did not know. At any rate, it's good to see someone turn things around. He was not someone I thought would have had a snowball's chance in hell of making the NHL after 1-plus seasons of college hockey. Too immature, to self aggrandizing. He's obviously grown quite a bit. Good for him.

Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
11-21-2009, 12:36 PM
A player's dad told me last year that, in his hiatus from hockey, he had returned to ND to continue his classes. I thought that was impressive enough, let alone see him return to the professional hockey after time off, and the NHL to boot! Oh, and his Panthers beat the Wings last night...

Getting back to Hanson...I failed to also mention that he had a Gordie Howe hat trick last month. ;)

IrishHockeyFan
11-22-2009, 11:03 AM
These split weekends are a pain. Even worse when its Thursday/Sunday and not Friday/Sunday. It almost seems like 2 different series. Hopefully if the Irish get a lead in the third they hold onto it this time. Hopefully they manage at least 3 goals today too, even though MSU is only giving up 2 a game.

Something positive has got to start happening for this squad. But for that to happen the appointed leaders of this team need to remember the simple but profound order by Norman Schwarzkopf: When placed in command - take charge.

yuenight_for_IRISHICER
11-22-2009, 05:18 PM
I wish I were WATCHING the game...

I think they had a much better 3rd stanza
Is this the same Brad Phillips?:rolleyes:
CALLE!!! (smiley, heart)
It's great to see the freshmen energy
4 goals... thanks god, finally...

Hard work rewards :)

owslachief
11-22-2009, 08:14 PM
im sure you noticed phillips didnt have to work that hard. shot total was a mirage, and n.d. completely shut us down defensively btwn the circles. most complete team spartans have faced. congrats.

Pirateasaurus
11-22-2009, 08:33 PM
I wasn't able to listen to it all on the radio but from what i did hear, there was a lot of ND clogging up the slot and shooting/passing lanes. Many times it would seem that we were gonna get a great opportunity just to have the pass or shot tipped wide or blocked. Probably the first series all year we haven;t been able to generate a lot of quality chances on net. Too bad we have to face you guys again later because it was frustrating this time around.

Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
11-22-2009, 08:40 PM
As this is the anniversary of the assassination of President Kennedy, I have to first ask the hard questions: What does it say about the team when they play the best game I've seen this season while their captain sits in the stands? And what does it say about the team when their captain is benched by the coach who earlier in the season stated that he could abuse the refs, his players couldn't? Wearing a letter on your sweater entitles one to talk to the refs, but I gotta ask, "What on earth did the captain say to get the misconduct?!"

Okay, the 3rd degree is over.

I am quite pleased with the play of the team today. From the goal on out. Riley Sheahan continues to impress, especially with the blast from the point. Calle Ridderwall scored one of the prettiest goals going thus far, while getting 2 points on the night. Joining him in the multi-point category were Kyle Lawson, Billy Maday and Kevin Deeth. Kyle Palmieri got a hard-working goal (that he must have tipped in because I thought Ben Ryan had it...), and the rest of the team played smart, played hard and earned this nice victory over a strong MSU team full of some killers (who, BTW, were held to one point each the whole weekend).

The team cycled the puck very well and took care of business when they got the puck. I think on the night, they only gaffed twice with the puck. Unfortunately, a guy in green was there to scoop it up. Fortunately, the players regrouped and helped out Brad Phillips. They blocked shots, killed penalties smartly and took what seemed like more than 16 shots.

The reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do it again. Oh, and some pumpkin pie. :D

IrishHockeyFan
11-22-2009, 08:50 PM
I will say MSU didn't look as good these last two games as I expected. But they did hold ND to 1 goal Thursday and just 16 shots today, so they were somewhat effective in their gameplan, but shot total aside, Notre Dame did pretty much control the tempo of this game from the outset. Was happy to see 4 goals, finally, so they managed to fulfill one of my wishes from my earlier post. And anyone happen to know why our captain was nowhere near the ice for this one? I know the team had a morning skate in Fort Wayne but he didn't appear to be injured to me.

All in all it was a good effort out of Notre Dame this weekend. 5 of 6 points from the CCHAs hottest team outside of Big Rapids is OK, and they seemed to be a little more in synch than I have seen up to today. Perhaps 4 games with Ruth back in the lineup was what it took.

IrishHockeyFan
11-22-2009, 08:55 PM
As this is the anniversary of the assassination of President Kennedy, I have to first ask the hard questions: What does it say about the team when they play the best game I've seen this season while their captain sits in the stands? And what does it say about the team when their captain is benched by the coach who earlier in the season stated that he could abuse the refs, his players couldn't? Wearing a letter on your sweater entitles one to talk to the refs, but I gotta ask, "What on earth did the captain say to get the misconduct?!"

Okay, the 3rd degree is over.



Except according to all the boxscores I've seen, most importantly the official sheet from the CCHA, Thang didn't receive a separate misconduct Thursday. His total for the game was 17 minutes, 2 for a rough minor, 5 for his CFB and the generic 10 minutes added to all players who receive a game misconduct. Cole got the same thing -- 15 minutes -- for his later CFB major. All players who get a game misconduct for whatever reason see 10 PIMs for the call. With Minella, his 10 minutes was simply sit in the box for 10 minutes, the more traditional 10 minute misconduct.

NDHockey9
11-23-2009, 05:27 AM
I love the recaps and evaluations from box scores and how the Irish weren't good enough. :)

For those who went..you know that the Irish scored the Ridderwall's goal in transition after forcing a turnover. Transition hockey is what this team has been striving to better and has been misssing from their game. The 3rd goal by Riley Sheahan was the Irish doing the dirty work. They put shots on goal and outworking MSU for the puck..eventually Lawson hit Sheahan in the slot for the one timer goal. The puck was put in the perfect spot for Riley to rip it. The Irish didn't need to pressure offensively after going up 3-1 ..they waited for MSU to overplay the puck and countered and did a great job of keeping MSU out of the middle of the Irish zone. Plus..the Irish showed improved patience by cycling and waited for a chance to pounce. 2nd period..could have better as a couple of penalties gave MSU a chance to get back in the game.

The Spartans excellent goal chances could be counted on one hand. The defense of ND is the last 5 games has started to settle in...even the period with 3 goals by Alaska in game 2 of that series wasn't great but wasn't awful as the Nanooks scored a baseball swing goal and a empty netter. Tropp was not a factor in the series and his line was red hot coming into the series. THe Irish defense did a pretty nice job against one of the nation's hottest line as the line scored only a rebound goal in 2 games. Tip of the hat to Lawson for outworking 2 MSU players for the puck setting up the empty netter for Deeth after an unselfish pass by Mayday who could have scored.

Phillips probably wants the only goal back but the puck at the left point was passed and hit I believe Ridderwall's stick..went straight up in the air where #9 Leveye (sp) pounced on the puck at the bottom of the face off circle and roofed it.

The improvement from game 1 to game 9 was minimal...but from game 10 to game 14 has been significant as the offense is getting a little better in terms of chances. The improvement may not show up in the goal column but the work ethic has been good which can only mean better things are ahead.
Let's hope they keep it rolling against the upstart Falcons..can't overlook them with #1 Miami coming up.

yuenight_for_IRISHICER
11-23-2009, 06:05 AM
And anyone happen to know why our captain was nowhere near the ice for this one? I know the team had a morning skate in Fort Wayne but he didn't appear to be injured to me.

As what's said in the radio, Thang was out due to "upper-body injury"

Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
11-23-2009, 06:07 AM
Except according to all the boxscores I've seen, most importantly the official sheet from the CCHA, Thang didn't receive a separate misconduct Thursday. His total for the game was 17 minutes, 2 for a rough minor, 5 for his CFB and the generic 10 minutes added to all players who receive a game misconduct. Cole got the same thing -- 15 minutes -- for his later CFB major. All players who get a game misconduct for whatever reason see 10 PIMs for the call. With Minella, his 10 minutes was simply sit in the box for 10 minutes, the more traditional 10 minute misconduct.

If it wasn't for "abusing the refs," I have to assume it was to send a message. I just assumed he went too far in pleading his case.

Edit: Yue answered it for both of us...