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    http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...morecities.php

    Of the mentioned "new" venues, I think Pittsburgh would be good. Kansas City and Omaha would be meh. I don't see how Denver can think they're "in the bid cycle" for 5-6 years post 2008 when both Boston and St. Paul are being asked to wait longer, and seeing how there are so many other viable options now than were there last time, let alone if Boston throws in a bid...

    My 2 cents - You can cross off Washington (2009), Denver (2008), St. Louis (2007) - just too soon. Then, let's say Boston (2004) bids. They would easily get one of the three. That leaves Buffalo (2003) and the newbys - KC, Omaha and Pittsburgh. Clearly, only one of KC or O-town could be an option, and seeing as it only holds 16,600 for hockey, I don't see Omaha as a viable option. The Sprint Center in KC isn't much better - 17,000 for hockey. Personally, I think Pittsburgh, representing the "now" (Sidney Crosby) market for hockey (wth the current Stanley Cup and a new 18,000 seat rink opening in 2010) wins a FF, with Buffalo as the third.

    Edit - I'd love to see Chicago put in a bid. Resurgent NHL market, 22,000 seat building, better area around the rink than 10 years ago (and a great city overall)...

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by moose97; 09-15-2009, 02:38 PM.
    Current NCAA D-I rinks I've been to:

    AHA:
    B1G: UMich, MSU, UMinn, Notre Dame, OSU, UWisc
    CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
    ECAC:
    HEA: UMass
    NCHC: Miami, UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
    Independant: ASU


    Inactive: UAH, ASU, BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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    Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

    Originally posted by moose97 View Post
    http://www.collegehockeynews.com/new...morecities.php

    Of the mentioned "new" venues, I think Pittsburgh would be good. Kansas City and Omaha would be meh. I don't see how Denver can think they're "in the bid cycle" for 5-6 years post 2008 when both Boston and St. Paul are being asked to wait longer, and seeing how there are so many other viable options now than were there last time, let alone if Boston throws in a bid...

    My 2 cents - You can cross off Washington (2009), Denver (2008), St. Louis (2007) - just too soon. Then, let's say Boston (2004) bids. They would easily get one of the three. That leaves Buffalo (2003) and the newbys - KC, Omaha and Pittsburgh. Clearly, only one of KC or O-town could be an option, and seeing as it only holds 16,600 for hockey, I don't see Omaha as a viable option. The Sprint Center in KC isn't much better - 17,000 for hockey. Personally, I think Pittsburgh, representing the "now" (Sidney Crosby) market for hockey (wth the current Stanley Cup and a new 18,000 seat rink opening in 2010) wins a FF, with Buffalo as the third.

    Edit - I'd love to see Chicago put in a bid. Resurgent NHL market, 22,000 seat building, better area around the rink than 10 years ago (and a great city overall)...

    Thoughts?
    I agree on writing off Washington and Denver, though St. Louis might be a candidate for the 2015 site, since it'd have been 8 years by then. Though in the next cycle, the other two have to be favorites. I really hope Buffalo doesn't get a bid, it's a boring and ugly city. Pittsburgh would be a nice change, however. I've never been to KC but it seems like it'd be a risk since there's no NHL or college presence, though the NCAA was willing to go for Tampa so who knows. Chicago would be a fantastic choice if it submitted a bid for loads of reasons, it's probably the best site that's the most easily accessible for all 3 major conferences. Certainly if Boston submits a bid they appear to be a shoe-in. Boston, Chicago, Pittsburgh would be a solid next 3 sites.
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      Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

      For all the work that the Robert Morris athletic department has put into a bid, it will be almost ridiculous for them not to land the 2013 or 2014 Championship.

      This city does well with events. Between the 2006 MLB All-Star Game, two NFL Kickoffs, two Stanley Cup Finals, and next week's G-20 Summit, I think this town has done enough to prove that we can handle a little old college hockey tournament.
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      • #4
        Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

        Originally posted by slurpees View Post
        Boston, Chicago, Pittsburgh would be a solid next 3 sites.
        Couldn't ask for anything more...
        Current NCAA D-I rinks I've been to:

        AHA:
        B1G: UMich, MSU, UMinn, Notre Dame, OSU, UWisc
        CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
        ECAC:
        HEA: UMass
        NCHC: Miami, UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
        Independant: ASU


        Inactive: UAH, ASU, BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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          Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

          I'll jump on the Boston-Chicago-Pittsburgh bandwagon. I think those would be the best three options.
          Places I've seen a college hockey game: Agganis Arena, Alfond Arena, Bright Center, Consol Energy Center, Conte Forum, DCU Center, Fenway Park, Gutterson Fieldhouse, Houston Field House, Lawler Arena, Madison Square Garden, Matthews Arena, Mullins Center, Schneider Arena, Scottrade Center, Sears Centre, Tampa Bay Times Forum, TD Bank Sports Center, TD Garden, Tsongas Center, Tully Forum, Verizon Center, Verizon Wireless Arena, Walter Brown Arena, Wells Fargo Center, Whittemore Center

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          • #6
            Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

            The reason why Denver is "in the mix" is that their Sports Commission has their act together. They are aggressive in their bids and they deliver the goods ($$$$). The 2008 Frozen Four received rave reviews from the NCAA and they encouraged Denver to bid again.

            I think the NCAA would rather deal with a deep pocketed sports commission than a small school that might not be able to fund the guarantees. Plus its easier to deal with professionals who are used to hosting sporting events, conventions and trade shows.
            Last edited by dggoddard; 09-15-2009, 03:21 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

              I think that by placing the even in cities like DC and Anaheim, you could argue that the committee isnt interested primarily in getting the event in a hockey-hotbed, but more so in a place that's going to be easy to get to, and have some fun stuff to do near by.

              Why not New Orleans?
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                Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                Originally posted by Beantown6 View Post
                I think that by placing the even in cities like DC and Anaheim, you could argue that the committee isnt interested primarily in getting the event in a hockey-hotbed, but more so in a place that's going to be easy to get to, and have some fun stuff to do near by.

                Why not New Orleans?
                rink size?
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                • #9
                  Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                  Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                  rink size?
                  New Orleans Arena seats 18,000 and has hosted hockey...

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Arena

                  The now-defunct New Orleans Brass of the ECHL played in the New Orleans Arena their last three seasons before their demise in 2002.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                    Chi/KC
                    Pitt
                    NO

                    not necessarily in that order
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                    • #11
                      Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                      Boston, Buffalo, Pittsburgh

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                      • #12
                        Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                        Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
                        New Orleans Arena seats 18,000 and has hosted hockey...

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Arena
                        It seats 18,000 for basketball. It seats 16,500 for arena football, which uses the same 200 x 85 surface that hockey does (and has a lot of obstructed views, I think).
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                        • #13
                          Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                          Originally posted by Beantown6 View Post
                          I think that by placing the even in cities like DC and Anaheim, you could argue that the committee isnt interested primarily in getting the event in a hockey-hotbed, but more so in a place that's going to be easy to get to, and have some fun stuff to do near by.

                          Why not New Orleans?
                          Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                          rink size?
                          New Orleans Arena doesn't list a hockey capacity (16,500 for arena football), and used to be the home for the New Orleans Brass of the ECHL... Anyone know if NOA still has icemaking capabilities, or if that was damaged in Katrina, and just not replaced?

                          On rink size, I'd agree that it's quite small, but the "stuff to do" factor would be rather high.
                          Current NCAA D-I rinks I've been to:

                          AHA:
                          B1G: UMich, MSU, UMinn, Notre Dame, OSU, UWisc
                          CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
                          ECAC:
                          HEA: UMass
                          NCHC: Miami, UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
                          Independant: ASU


                          Inactive: UAH, ASU, BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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                          • #14
                            Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                            I'd bet the worst NO view >>>>>>> best ford field view.
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                            • #15
                              Re: 2013, '14, '15 Frozen Four Sites

                              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                              I'd bet the worst NO view >>>>>>> best ford field view.
                              Doubtful.

                              At Ford Field, you'll still be able to see the whole rink - you just might be really far away.

                              In NO, you'd have whole sections blocked off. The capacity is already low, and would be lower if you count the seats that could see all of the ice.
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