Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

[4four4]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

This is not a complaint per se just an observation, and I don't know if a similar passing would garner even a short write-up at USCHO, but I didn't see anything front-page here about the passing of Wooger.

Tomorrow is his funeral.

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https://www.uscho.com/2019/12/14/to-...og-dies-at-75/

Edit: Depending on what day it is, stories that show up here on USCHO can quickly move down to a point out of sight just due to things like a new poll, link to a podcast, etc...

Thank you.

444 - thanks?

[Slap Shot]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

https://theathletic.com/1474489/2019...ring-the-life/

Very nice free article groom Vegoe on The Wooger.

[4four4]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

Rumor has it the AD department is happy with the direction of Gopher football their next project is Gopher hockey.

[Stauber1]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

That was a pretty $hitty game of hockey

[trixR4kids]

That was a pretty $hitty game of hockey

Forgot to turn back to the game after the second and with until about six minutes left in the third. Clearly didn’t miss much during that time lol.

I agree, Bemidji is a decent defensive team but fifteen shots to that point is atrocious.

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

Rumor has it the AD department is happy with the direction of Gopher football their next project is Gopher hockey.

What does this entail?

[Bonin21]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

Maybe a franchise trade with Duluth. Roster and all committed players.

[Slap Shot]

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Maybe a franchise trade with Duluth. Roster and all committed players.

Hopefully it includes a few select fans.

[Slap Shot]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

They still have a significant uphill climb to get anywhere near a PWR selection (and I would say it's unlikely) but all they can do is win as many games as possible and least this weekend was a start.

[Fishman'81]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

I liked the "Doug and the Rug" show; Woog tried to be less biased than Frank when they played WI on TV, but after all, it is a MN-based network.

RIP Doug.

I actually thought that both those guys were objective. It was fun listen, even for an anti-Gopher.

He'll be missed. (Is Frank still working? I don't get that Fox channel any more.)

[state of hockey]

I actually thought that both those guys were objective. It was fun listen, even for an anti-Gopher.

He'll be missed. (Is Frank still working? I don't get that Fox channel any more.)

Not on tv, but he still can be heard providing color for Gopher games on the radio.

[The Rube]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

Not on tv, but he still can be heard providing color for Gopher games on the radio.

Frank and Wally Shaver. They are entertaining, more homerish for sure, but fun to listen to.

[SteveO]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

I've taken econometrics and multivariate stat courses, these concepts are not foreign to me and your condescending schtick isn't fooling anyone other than yourself.

A bit aggressive trix. I'd tried softening my views by stating in my earlier post this was not intended to be personal or condescending. With regard to your statement, it spurred my curiosity because it doesn't seem to match what you stated earlier this year:

Makes sense, I didn't have as much exposure to multivariate regression in school but I can see how that'd be useful. And you're right I was gonna say something about controlling for SOS because of teams like ASU this season.

As a university professor with a PhD, I teach basic, multivariate and advanced statistics and research methods among other subjects. I've taught over 25 courses and it's impossible to not have studied the various forms of regression analysis if you've taken a multivariate stat course, which is by far the most widely used statistical tool in virtually every professional domain of science, sports, manufacturing and business.

I do stand by my statement that you have misunderstood the study I posted. However, I don't have any interest in pursuing this any further, especially discussing more in-depth stat matters here on USCHO.

[trixR4kids]

Re: Minnesota Golden Gopher Season 2019-2020: Motzko 2.0

The problem is we don't even know how that site is assigning its star ratings, one of the main bases for how the algorithm is rating the recruiting classes and the "study's" conclusion that the Gophers have had elite recruiting classes the last few years. They don't give a ton of info on how they assign that nor any real transparency as to the variables in the algorithm or the weights etc. This isn't terribly shocking for a pay site that wants to sell the idea that they have some comprehensive rating system (yet don't want people actually digging into the nuts and bolts) but there's no real reason to just assume these ratings (and thus the outputs of the algorithm) are accurate especially when we can see with our own eyes that they probably aren't. You seem to be just taking the outputs of the alorithm as gospel and coming to the conclusion that Motzko isn't coaching the team up because of the results of this "study" despite the fact that it clearly flies in the face of reality and we don't really even have that much info on the methodology. I'd also argue that the article even admits that it's overrating 18 year old NTDP players based on potential rather than current output, which isn't terribly useful when trying to evaluate the current talent level of the team. I think we can reasonably say that Ben Meyers is currently a better player than Reedy or McManus and yet that algorithm would probably come to the opposite conclusion (can't say for sure without paying).

I'd also point out that Casey Mittlestadt is no longer part of the team and he was partly the reason one of those classes was highly rated.