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TalonsUpPuckDown
05-02-2018, 05:29 PM
yes...sigh
next three starting with this coming season are:
LSSU
FSU
NMU

I assume the sigh means you're thankful BG isn't on your list ;-)

Shirtless Guy
05-02-2018, 06:09 PM
I assume the sigh means you're thankful BG isn't on your list ;-)

Haha, I just see no PWR value in the 4th team being a WCHA opponent. If it had to be someone close, Id prefer it be Western...

FadeToBlack&Gold
05-02-2018, 06:12 PM
Haha, I just see no PWR value in the 4th team being a WCHA opponent. If it had to be someone close, I’d prefer it be Western...

Agreed, it annoys me as well, but if it brings in an extra few hundred fans over booking an eastern team, then I suppose it's worth it. Western and Northern have had decent contingents.

JohnsonsJerseys
05-03-2018, 07:32 AM
yes...sigh
next three starting with this coming season are:
LSSU
FSU
NMU

I think it is about high time we just change the name of the GLI to "Tech vs CCHA Alumni from Michigan Invitational".
More non-conference conference games. Yeah! (Not.)

Honestly Tech needs to stop looking at this tourney from simply an attendance stand point at look at it as an opportunity to get two valuable non-conference wins every Christmas. The WCHA as a whole isn't helping Tech make the tourney and you don't want to have to count on winning the Maple Syrup Cup every Spring to make the NCAA tourney. If you lose $10,000 on the tourney, because you invite an AH/ECAC/HE team that doesn't have a good fan base, but you get a key win that helps you in the PWR, in the long run that is just the cost of building a winner.

Do you think UND gripes and complains about the fact that they have to put forth the effort and man power to run an NCAA regional nearly every single year, or do you think they look at it as an opportunity to basically have a two-game home playoff series to advance to the Frozen Four almost every year?

Ryan

bigblue_dl
05-03-2018, 08:42 AM
I think it is about high time we just change the name of the GLI to "Tech vs CCHA Alumni from Michigan Invitational".
More non-conference conference games. Yeah! (Not.)

Honestly Tech needs to stop looking at this tourney from simply an attendance stand point at look at it as an opportunity to get two valuable non-conference wins every Christmas. The WCHA as a whole isn't helping Tech make the tourney and you don't want to have to count on winning the Maple Syrup Cup every Spring to make the NCAA tourney. If you lose $10,000 on the tourney, because you invite an AH/ECAC/HE team that doesn't have a good fan base, but you get a key win that helps you in the PWR, in the long run that is just the cost of building a winner.

Do you think UND gripes and complains about the fact that they have to put forth the effort and man power to run an NCAA regional nearly every single year, or do you think they look at it as an opportunity to basically have a two-game home playoff series to advance to the Frozen Four almost every year?

Ryan

Agree 100%

The 4th team being a WCHA team is just bad scheduling. It adds no value to the PWR, which needs to be priority #1 in non conference scheduling. If the want attendance, then make Western the permanent 4th team.

TalonsUpPuckDown
05-03-2018, 08:53 AM
Agree 100%

The 4th team being a WCHA team is just bad scheduling. It adds no value to the PWR, which needs to be priority #1 in non conference scheduling. If the want attendance, then make Western the permanent 4th team.

From reading the WMU message boards, I think they'd sign up for that deal in a heartbeat.

John J. MacInnes
05-03-2018, 04:07 PM
I think it is about high time we just change the name of the GLI to "Tech vs CCHA Alumni from Michigan Invitational".
More non-conference conference games. Yeah! (Not.)

Honestly Tech needs to stop looking at this tourney from simply an attendance stand point at look at it as an opportunity to get two valuable non-conference wins every Christmas. The WCHA as a whole isn't helping Tech make the tourney and you don't want to have to count on winning the Maple Syrup Cup every Spring to make the NCAA tourney. If you lose $10,000 on the tourney, because you invite an AH/ECAC/HE team that doesn't have a good fan base, but you get a key win that helps you in the PWR, in the long run that is just the cost of building a winner.

Do you think UND gripes and complains about the fact that they have to put forth the effort and man power to run an NCAA regional nearly every single year, or do you think they look at it as an opportunity to basically have a two-game home playoff series to advance to the Frozen Four almost every year?

Ryan

How does North Dakota hosting a regional equate to a holiday tournament? There isn't any comparison there.

The PWR problem right now comes from Michigan State being a doormat for the better part of a decade right now. If the Spartans were where they have been historically, that solves the problem. And what makes you think that teams are beating down the door to come in and risk their own PWR in Detroit? That list is not excessively long in any season.

Shirtless Guy
05-03-2018, 04:16 PM
How does North Dakota hosting a regional equate to a holiday tournament? There isn't any comparison there.

The PWR problem right now comes from Michigan State being a doormat for the better part of a decade right now. If the Spartans were where they have been historically, that solves the problem. And what makes you think that teams are beating down the door to come in and risk their own PWR in Detroit? That list is not excessively long in any season.

Sorry but I call BS, there have to be multiple eastern teams that want a guaranteed game against Michigan/Michigan State in a given year, with the chance to play MTU/MSU/Michigan in the other. Tournaments are huge loophole to flipping comparisons in PWR. There was a long history of the GLI having a pretty good 4th team from another conference...and the occasional WCHA team. Now its all close teams and the only teams near by are WCHA/B1G and there isn't going to be a 3rd B1G team...

Since I started following that tournament has included UND, CC, BU, BC, UNH, Harvard, Providence, RPI, and WMU. All of those are preferable to a WCHA team in the current situation.

beaverhockeyfan
05-04-2018, 08:51 AM
Sorry but I call BS, there have to be multiple eastern teams that want a guaranteed game against Michigan/Michigan State in a given year, with the chance to play MTU/MSU/Michigan in the other. Tournaments are huge loophole to flipping comparisons in PWR. There was a long history of the GLI having a pretty good 4th team from another conference...and the occasional WCHA team. Now its all close teams and the only teams near by are WCHA/B1G and there isn't going to be a 3rd B1G team...

Since I started following that tournament has included UND, CC, BU, BC, UNH, Harvard, Providence, RPI, and WMU. All of those are preferable to a WCHA team in the current situation.

Home games and the gate $$$$ are all too important now for "Power Teams". Unless you can guarantee a payout equal or more to what they would receive from hosting a weekend of home games, these "Power Teams" aren't going to travel anymore.

bigblue_dl
05-04-2018, 08:54 AM
Home games and the gate $$$$ are all too important now for "Power Teams". Unless you can guarantee a payout equal or more to what they would receive from hosting a weekend of home games, these "Power Teams" aren't going to travel anymore.

They do for tournaments though.

Shirtless Guy
05-04-2018, 09:18 AM
Home games and the gate $$$$ are all too important now for "Power Teams". Unless you can guarantee a payout equal or more to what they would receive from hosting a weekend of home games, these "Power Teams" aren't going to travel anymore.It doesn't have to be whatever you consider a "Power Team" there are plenty of other teams that are good enough and valuable enough to have on the NC schedule to invite to this tournament.

Burnt Orange Husky
05-06-2018, 08:34 PM
i would assume a guy coming from LSU would understand how important the big sport on campus is for identity, etc.
I'm excited that we're getting a new president from a Big 5 Conference. LSU fans are as crazy as they come so I'm confident he'll embrace and promote the hockey program.

I loved Glenn but I always felt he was too provincial having been in Houghton since the 70s. I once asked him if any high-tech companies came to recruit at Tech and he said, "Yes, Ford and Boeing." Really? What about Google, Apple, Intel, Facebook, Oracle, Microsoft?

The stacked MTU was the most recognizable logo Tech has ever had but Glenn detested abbreviating Technological to Tech. He thought it sounded like a trade school. Really? Ever heard of MIT, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Cal Tech, Texas Tech?

So I'm comfortable with the choice. I only hope he doesn't freeze to death in the winter. The King is Dead, long live the King... :)

John J. MacInnes
05-07-2018, 08:02 AM
Joe Shawhan (half) Hour is on now on Mix93 WKMJ and pasty.net

John J. MacInnes
05-07-2018, 08:07 AM
Joe says that the Saturday game at Bemidji is likely to be an outdoor game, per a conversation with Tom Serratore.

beaverhockeyfan
05-07-2018, 08:21 AM
Joe says that the Saturday game at Bemidji is likely to be an outdoor game, per a conversation with Tom Serratore.

I would assume that would be part of Hockey Day Minnesota which Bemidji is hosting. FoxSportsNorth typically covers all the high school games that are played that day. It will be interesting to see if they stick around for the college game or if they break away due to the Goofers or Wild playing.....

Of course, other cities have hosted Hockey Day Minnesota and had the rink in use for the whole week so as many teams as possible could use the outdoor rink as possible. So I suppose it is possible that the Beavers and Huskies could play the Saturday before or the Saturday after.

mtu_huskies
05-07-2018, 11:59 AM
They could've done a full hour and had enough to talk about.

Goalies and the outdoor game were my takeaways.

Sounds like Beydoun, Kero and Jurusik next year. Interesting background from Joe, trying to cover possibly losing Packy (intention to sign pro) and Kero (graduation) and then both want to come back with an already committed player.

FadeToBlack&Gold
05-07-2018, 12:03 PM
Joe says that the Saturday game at Bemidji is likely to be an outdoor game, per a conversation with Tom Serratore.

Really? :rolleyes:

I'm starting to think Munson doesn't know what he wants.

Shirtless Guy
05-07-2018, 12:16 PM
Really? :rolleyes:

I'm starting to think Munson doesn't know what he wants.

yes, it would be part of Bemidji hosting Hockey Day Minnesota in January or February 2019.

beaverhockeyfan
05-07-2018, 12:26 PM
yes, it would be part of Bemidji hosting Hockey Day Minnesota in January or February 2019.

While ideally, BSU and Tech would play on Hockey Day Minnesota, the actual date is going to depend on which weekend the Wild are home. That won't be known until the July 1 announcement of Hockey Day Minnesota. I know a lot of the communities that have hosted HDM have left the rink up for a week to maximize the number of teams that get to play on outdoor ice. So, in theory, HDM could be January 12th, 19th (rumored Tech/BSU game, we will know more on Wednesday), or 26th depending on the Wild Home Schedule. But BSU and Tech will be playing outside on one of those Saturdays, which could be HDM or could be a week before or a week after.

Shirtless Guy
05-07-2018, 12:49 PM
While ideally, BSU and Tech would play on Hockey Day Minnesota, the actual date is going to depend on which weekend the Wild are home. That won't be known until the July 1 announcement of Hockey Day Minnesota. I know a lot of the communities that have hosted HDM have left the rink up for a week to maximize the number of teams that get to play on outdoor ice. So, in theory, HDM could be January 12th, 19th (rumored Tech/BSU game, we will know more on Wednesday), or 26th depending on the Wild Home Schedule. But BSU and Tech will be playing outside on one of those Saturdays, which could be HDM or could be a week before or a week after.Sure thats possible, but there is a big difference between not officially knowing until the NHL releases its schedule and "knowing." HDM has never been earlier before January 17th, 9 out of 12 years it has fallen between January 17th and 22nd. and the other 3 were 2nd weekend in February...MTU is not playing at BSU the 2nd weekend of February...who knows but it seems likely that HDM will be January 19th.