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Sieve1
02-16-2018, 08:19 PM
And please leave out your daughter!

Seriously...And any girls you coach

gotanytape
02-18-2018, 11:28 PM
Semi finals at JWHL Challenge Cup - Juniors

Chicago Mission vs Chicago Young Americans
NAHA vs Belle Tire

Great hockey to watch! Good luck to everyone!

hockeymakesmebroke
02-19-2018, 04:14 PM
Quick recap of how these games went: Both the Chicago teams skated hard and teams had to settle it in a shootout where CYA ends up the victors. I've seen CYA play a few times this season and they beat a very good Mission team that beat #1 ranked Shattuck four consecutive games a month back. In the other semi-final game, NAHA jumped out to a 3-1 lead but were unable to hold on to it. BT scored the game winner with .4 seconds on the clock giving BT a hard fought 4-3 victory. The Championship game saw Belle Tire win 4-0 in a game where CYA had two long 5 on 3 power plays and were unable to convert. CYA also had several other power plays (5) where they never got a shot on net during a few of them. BT defense very strong throughout the whole tournament. This is the same group that won Nationals at 16U last year and moved up to 19U. They are back to back tourney champs at the JWHL Challenge Cup, but different age groups.

joecct
02-19-2018, 10:22 PM
Quick recap of how these games went: Both the Chicago teams skated hard and teams had to settle it in a shootout where CYA ends up the victors. I've seen CYA play a few times this season and they beat a very good Mission team that beat #1 ranked Shattuck four consecutive games a month back. In the other semi-final game, NAHA jumped out to a 3-1 lead but were unable to hold on to it. BT scored the game winner with .4 seconds on the clock giving BT a hard fought 4-3 victory. The Championship game saw Belle Tire win 4-0 in a game where CYA had two long 5 on 3 power plays and were unable to convert. CYA also had several other power plays (5) where they never got a shot on net during a few of them. BT defense very strong throughout the whole tournament. This is the same group that won Nationals at 16U last year and moved up to 19U. They are back to back tourney champs at the JWHL Challenge Cup, but different age groups.

Does it really matter who wins these things as opposed to playing well against good competition and getting in the recruiting notebook of a number of schools?

Puckdrop14
02-20-2018, 05:21 AM
Does it really matter who wins these things as opposed to playing well against good competition and getting in the recruiting notebook of a number of schools?

It matters to the players or maybe you prefer they receive participation medals?

joecct
02-20-2018, 08:16 AM
It matters to the players or maybe you prefer they receive participation medals?

I prefer showcases. Play 4 or 5 games and go home. Save winning as the primary objective for the post season.

Sieve1
02-20-2018, 08:41 AM
I prefer showcases. Play 4 or 5 games and go home. Save winning as the primary objective for the post season.

Agreed. Especially in the jwhl tournament, which was very long and the elite teams had to play 3 or 4 blowouts before getting to some decent competition.

Rightnut
02-20-2018, 10:12 AM
I prefer showcases. Play 4 or 5 games and go home. Save winning as the primary objective for the post season.

Disagree. Players hate showcases. They prefer to be working towards a goal in each tournament. Showcases are a just a bunch of random scrimmages.

312hockey
02-20-2018, 11:36 AM
JWHL Cup U16 Stat Leaders

Goalies

Ottawa's Michelle Pasiechnyk (2002, 2020, Clarkson) had 85 save on 87 shots in 3 games played
CYA's Grace Kedziora (2002, 2021) had 63 saves on 65 shots in 2 games played
CYA's Jill Hertl (2003, 2022) had 95 saves on 103 shots in 3 games played
LC's Amanda Thiele (2002, 2020, Ohio State) had 52 saves on 53 shots in 3 games played

Point Leaders

LC's Kirsten Simms (2004, 2022) led the U16 division with 18 pts! Incredibly impressive for her age.
LC's Courtney Hall (2001, 2019, St. Cloud) had 13 pts
Mission's Abbey Murphy (2002, 2020, Minnesota) had 9 pts
Rice's Saige Biddle (2002, 2020) produced 6 pts
Boston's Mia Buonarosa (2004, 2023) had 6 pts
CYA's Kylie Makuh (2002, 2020) had 5 pts and one GW
Newbridge's Emma Bishop (2002, 2020) had 5 pts
Team Illinois' Kate McLaughlin (2002, 2020) also logged 5 pts
Belle Tire's Stella Scott (2019, 2001) had 4 pts
NAHA's Anna Gallagher (2002, 2020, Brown) logged 4 pts
Ottawa's Marika Gagnon (2002, 2020) had 4 pts
New Jersey's Kailen Coelho (2001, 2019) also had 4 pts

GTOWN
02-20-2018, 12:33 PM
Disagree. Players hate showcases. They prefer to be working towards a goal in each tournament. Showcases are a just a bunch of random scrimmages.

My daughter played in the JWHL and didn't mind the showcase weekends. It was just her regular season since the standings mattered and led to playoff seeding. It also helps when you get contacted from university coaches after a given weekend - you see the real value in having all the teams in one place!

Rightnut
02-20-2018, 12:44 PM
My daughter played in the JWHL and didn't mind the showcase weekends. It was just her regular season since the standings mattered and led to playoff seeding. It also helps when you get contacted from university coaches after a given weekend - you see the real value in having all the teams in one place!

That is my point. Those were not true "showcase" tournaments. Those were league games which mattered. The players I know don't like the true showcase tournaments which are simply tournaments but no one wins/ no playoffs etc. Travel somewhere, play 4-5 games and go home. What is wrong with having a tournament champion? I get that scouts like to see certain matchups and those tournaments will usually try to match up the better teams to play each other. My point is the players generally like to know that there is some final or chance to win. Especially for teams that are not in the upper echelon. They are relegated to playing other weaker teams without a chance to test their mettle against the stronger teams. Yes you end up with a few blowouts along the way but having a winner is nice.

GTOWN
02-20-2018, 02:43 PM
That is my point. Those were not true "showcase" tournaments. Those were league games which mattered. The players I know don't like the true showcase tournaments which are simply tournaments but no one wins/ no playoffs etc. Travel somewhere, play 4-5 games and go home. What is wrong with having a tournament champion? I get that scouts like to see certain matchups and those tournaments will usually try to match up the better teams to play each other. My point is the players generally like to know that there is some final or chance to win. Especially for teams that are not in the upper echelon. They are relegated to playing other weaker teams without a chance to test their mettle against the stronger teams. Yes you end up with a few blowouts along the way but having a winner is nice.

I understand your point. I guess it comes down to what you expect to get out of the showcase.
Beantown is a perfect example: I manage a midget AA team in the Toronto area and tell my parents that the Sunday games are for them and the girls, the scouts don’t really care who wins, they’re gone by Sunday morning.

Hockey66
02-22-2018, 02:51 PM
I'm not totally surprised about the goalie situation. At times it's hard to gage the quality of the tender because of the ridiculous talent in front of them. Sometimes the coaches, even at the National level, like to scout a Brianne McLaughlin type, who played on a mediocre RMU club, yet earned a spot on the Olympic team.

I am as shocked as you I have watched the Selects play against U16 Ontario West Selects. 0-0 3 periods and overtime. Teams like Ontario West or Stoney Creek or Vancouver all went to OT with Selects. The goalie play was excellent most of the games were even shots or close.

312hockey
04-10-2018, 02:18 PM
U14 National Champions: MN Green Giants
U14 Silver Medalists: Assabet Valley
U14 Bronze: Chicago Young Americans
U16 National Champions: (no surprise) Chicago Mission
U16 Silver Medalists: Selects Academy
u16 Bronze: East Coast Wizards
U19 National Champions: Shattuck
U19 Silver Medalists: Belle Tire
U19 Bronze: Chicago Young Americans

312hockey
04-10-2018, 02:24 PM
U14 National Champions: MN Green Giants
U14 Silver Medalists: Assabet Valley
U14 Bronze: Chicago Young Americans
U16 National Champions: (no surprise) Chicago Mission
U16 Silver Medalists: Selects Academy
u16 Bronze: East Coast Wizards
U19 National Champions: Shattuck
U19 Silver Medalists: Belle Tire
U19 Bronze: Chicago Young Americans

All National champions and 6/9 national medalists are Midwestern teams.

joecct
04-10-2018, 03:22 PM
U14 National Champions: MN Green Giants
U14 Silver Medalists: Assabet Valley
U14 Bronze: Chicago Young Americans
U16 National Champions: (no surprise) Chicago Mission
U16 Silver Medalists: Selects Academy
u16 Bronze: East Coast Wizards
U19 National Champions: Shattuck
U19 Silver Medalists: Belle Tire
U19 Bronze: Chicago Young Americans

Aren't there 2 bronze medals at each age group?

Sieve1
04-10-2018, 05:46 PM
Aren't there 2 bronze medals at each age group?

Why do they bother giving out bronze medals when there’s no bronze medal game? Kind of like a participation trophy

joecct
04-10-2018, 10:38 PM
Why do they bother giving out bronze medals when there’s no bronze medal game? Kind of like a participation trophy

They're just like the NCAA which gives out bronze semifinalist trophies to the 2 semi final losers.

Sieve1
04-11-2018, 07:16 AM
They're just like the NCAA which gives out bronze semifinalist trophies to the 2 semi final losers.

At u14 the semi scores were:
MN Green Giants 8 CYA 0
Assabet 7 Jr Flyers 0
So after getting trounced 8-0 & 7-0...hey, here’s a medal- good job! LOL

joecct
04-11-2018, 09:12 AM
At u14 the semi scores were:
MN Green Giants 8 CYA 0
Assabet 7 Jr Flyers 0
So after getting trounced 8-0 & 7-0...hey, here’s a medal- good job! LOL

They got there, didn't they and won a quarterfinal round game?