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Fighting Sioux 23
03-16-2018, 08:40 PM
Clarkson trying to help some of those bubble teams, have come back to tie Harvard.

I believe North Dakota needs the following results to make the tournament:
Clarkson over Harvard;
Northeastern/Providence winner over Boston University;
Clarkson over Princeton; AND

1 of the following:
a. North Dakota win over Denver/Duluth loser; or
b. Michigan Tech over Northern Michigan

ticapnews
03-16-2018, 09:26 PM
12 teams are still locked.
SCSU
Notre Dame
Cornell
Denver
Ohio State
Northeastern
Providence
Mankato
Michigan
Penn State
AHA Champ
WCHA Champ

It looks like the ECAC will go to an autobid. That would be 13.

SCSU is locked as #1 overall. Notre Dame is locked as a 1 seed. Cornell, Denver and Ohio State are fighting for the other two 1 seeds.

The bubble has shrunk to Clarkson, UMD, UMTC, UND and BC. BU is win or go home.

Updated scenarios
(https://collegehockeyranked.com/forecast/pwrtournament/)

Wow. What a comeback. Clarkson rallies from 4-1 down to defeat Harvard 5-4 in OT to punch their ticket to the NCAA. They can help bubble teams by winning the ECAC tomorrow night and knocking out Princeton.

joecct
03-16-2018, 09:26 PM
UND still alive
Clarkson wins in OT

LTsatch
03-16-2018, 09:28 PM
Wow. What a comeback. Clarkson rallies from 4-1 down to defeat Harvard 5-4 in OT to punch their ticket to the NCAA. They can help bubble teams by winning the ECAC tomorrow night and knocking out Princeton.

Nah, Princeton will be the new Cinderella. #THREECAC

Fighting Sioux 23
03-16-2018, 09:30 PM
UND still alive
Clarkson wins in OT

BC also still alive.

Numbers
03-16-2018, 09:36 PM
Don't forget that UMD is NOT clinched.

2 losses leave them below Minnesota, and thus vulnerable.
Princeton
BU
UMD loses twice

Fighting Sioux 23
03-16-2018, 09:38 PM
Without crunching the numbers, I believe the following is correct:

If either Princeton or BU win, North Dakota and BC are eliminated.

If both Princeton and BU win, Minnesota is eliminated, unless Minnesota Duluth loses both tonight and tomorrow night.

If both Princeton and BU lose, then...
North Dakota makes the tournament with the following:
a. North Dakota win over Denver/Minnesota Duluth loser; OR
b. Michigan Tech over Northern Michigan
If neither a. nor b., then BC makes the tournament.

Numbers
03-16-2018, 09:41 PM
Without crunching the numbers, I believe the following is correct:

If either Princeton or BU win, North Dakota and BC are eliminated.

If both Princeton and BU win, Minnesota is eliminated, unless Minnesota Duluth loses both tonight and tomorrow night.

If both Princeton and BU lose, then...
North Dakota makes the tournament with the following:
a. North Dakota win over Denver/Minnesota Duluth loser; OR
b. Michigan Tech over Northern Michigan
If neither a. nor b., then BC makes the tournament.

I think that boils it down very clearly. Except that, NoDak needs a "tie" or win tomorrow.

Fighting Sioux 23
03-16-2018, 09:42 PM
I think that boils it down very clearly.

And in the event both Minnesota and North Dakota are eliminated, it will be the first time in forty (40) years that both programs missed the NCAA Tournament.

joecct
03-16-2018, 09:43 PM
Nah, Princeton will be the new Cinderella. #ThreECAC

Syl Apps Jr. has graduated.
(so has Willie Mitchell)

Fighting Sioux 23
03-16-2018, 09:45 PM
I think that boils it down very clearly. Except that, NoDak needs a "tie" or win tomorrow.

Not if Michigan Tech beats Northern Michigan.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see what you are saying. If both Princeton and BU lose, North Dakota needs either: (1) a win or tie in the 3rd place game; OR (2) Michigan Tech over Northern Michigan. I was reading your post wrong.

LTsatch
03-16-2018, 09:48 PM
Syl Apps Jr. has graduated.
(so has Willie Mitchell)

Hobey (Donato) Baker as well. Should be a great final, nice comeback and win by Clarkson!

Numbers
03-16-2018, 10:02 PM
Not if Michigan Tech beats Northern Michigan.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see what you are saying. If both Princeton and BU lose, North Dakota needs either: (1) a win or tie in the 3rd place game; OR (2) Michigan Tech over Northern Michigan. I was reading your post wrong.

So, it actually has to go in this order:
1- If UMD wins tonight, they are in,
1a- Under 1), if UND w/t, then BC is out.
1b- Under 1a) Minny and UND decided by ECAC and HE tomorrow night.
1a1- If UND lose, and Prov/NE and Clark both win, then UND/BC for the last spot is decided by MTU/NMU

2- If UMD lose tonight, then....
2a- UND win tomorrow puts Minny in, and BC out
2b- UMD/UND tie tomorrow, then BC is out, and UMD is in
2c- UMD win tomorrow, UMD is in
2d- Under 2b or 2c, Minny is decided by HE and ECAC, and BC/UND might be
2e- If Prov/NE and Clark both win, then the last spot again comes down to the NMU/MTU result

Ralph Baer
03-16-2018, 10:09 PM
(so has Willie Mitchell)

Did he go back to CCT to complete his last 2 years?

Numbers
03-16-2018, 10:10 PM
And, does it seem now as if the #1s are:
SCSU
NoDame
Cornell
OSU
??

I can't seem to get Denver in there, so that would shore that part of the bracket up, right?

And, can anyone get NoDak to a #3? I don't think so.

So, if NoDak makes it, Ohio State plays in Sioux Falls.
If NoDak does not, SCSU plays in Sioux Falls.
Right?

ticapnews
03-16-2018, 10:11 PM
So, it actually has to go in this order:
1- If UMD wins tonight, they are in,
1a- Under 1), if UND w/t, then BC is out.
1b- Under 1a) Minny and UND decided by ECAC and HE tomorrow night.
1a1- If UND lose, and Prov/NE and Clark both win, then UND/BC for the last spot is decided by MTU/NMU

2- If UMD lose tonight, then....
2a- UND win tomorrow puts Minny in, and BC out
2b- UMD/UND tie tomorrow, then BC is out, and UMD is in
2c- UMD win tomorrow, UMD is in
2d- Under 2b or 2c, Minny is decided by HE and ECAC, and BC/UND might be
2e- If Prov/NE and Clark both win, then the last spot again comes down to the NMU/MTU result

So we want the WCHA final to go 5 or 6 overtimes?

ticapnews
03-16-2018, 10:14 PM
And, does it seem now as if the #1s are:
SCSU
NoDame
Cornell
OSU
??

I can't seem to get Denver in there, so that would shore that part of the bracket up, right?

And, can anyone get NoDak to a #3? I don't think so.

So, if NoDak makes it, Ohio State plays in Sioux Falls.
If NoDak does not, SCSU plays in Sioux Falls.
Right?

Denver is 8% to earn a 1 seed. Ohio State would have to lose to Notre Dame and Denver would have to beat St Cloud. And probably something else since the % is so low.

Fighting Sioux 23
03-16-2018, 10:15 PM
Let's try it like this...:p:D:D

Clinched (13 Teams):
SCSU
Notre Dame
Cornell
Denver
Ohio State
Northeastern
Providence
Mankato
Michigan
Penn State
Clarkson
AHA Champ
WCHA Champ

----------------------------------

Bubble (4 Teams):
Minnesota Duluth
Minnesota
North Dakota
Boston College

Minnesota Duluth makes the tournament with:
Win/Tie against North Dakota; OR
Loss by Princeton; OR
Loss by BU.

Minnesota makes the tournament with:
Loss by Princeton; OR
Loss by BU; OR
Loss by Minnesota Duluth

North Dakota makes the tournament with:
Loss by Princeton; AND
Loss by BU; AND
1 of the Following:
a. Win/Tie in 3rd Place Game; OR
b. Win by Michigan Tech

Boston College makes the tournament with:
Loss by Princeton; AND
Loss by BU; AND
Loss by North Dakota; AND
Loss by Michigan Tech

------------------------------

BU and Princeton must win to make the tournament.

mookie1995
03-16-2018, 10:15 PM
So we are down to pulling for either Sioux or igles? :(

Fighting Sioux 23
03-16-2018, 10:16 PM
And, does it seem now as if the #1s are:
SCSU
NoDame
Cornell
OSU
??

I can't seem to get Denver in there, so that would shore that part of the bracket up, right?

And, can anyone get NoDak to a #3? I don't think so.

So, if NoDak makes it, Ohio State plays in Sioux Falls.
If NoDak does not, SCSU plays in Sioux Falls.
Right?

I'm pretty sure North Dakota can only get in as the #14.