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Goon
04-29-2017, 01:17 PM
Thanks for the geography lesson, I didn't know that. I also definitely wasn't using the phrase "in the middle of" in a tongue-in-cheek slang manner.
Laugh if you want, there are good reasons to live in the middle of no where. Sioux Falls, SD is a straight shot south of Grand Forks, and once you get to South Dakota, the speed limit on I-29 is 80-MPH. Meaning, it's not going to be like driving on the east coast. Stuck in traffic jams and very low speed limits.

Happy
04-29-2017, 01:38 PM
Laugh if you want, there are good reasons to live in the middle of no where. Sioux Falls, SD is a straight shot south of Grand Forks, and once you get to South Dakota, the speed limit on I-29 is 80-MPH. Meaning, it's not going to be like driving on the east coast. Stuck in traffic jams and very low speed limits.

You do have to worry of being bored to death.

Goon
04-29-2017, 02:09 PM
There's always something in the Dakota to catch your attention.

icehawk
04-29-2017, 03:57 PM
You do have to worry of being bored to death.

Let's see, cruising at 85 or stuck in traffic at crawling speed. I'll take being bored.

Biddco
04-29-2017, 05:33 PM
There's always something in the Dakota to catch your attention.

Like is it corn, or soybeans or a tree.

brassbonanza
04-29-2017, 05:40 PM
Like is it corn, or soybeans or a tree.

"The state tree of North Dakota is a telephone pole." - Jack Parker

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-29-2017, 06:27 PM
There's always something in the Dakota to catch your attention.

Yeah, but it's just that one thing.

The Dakotas: America's Bald Spot

joecct
04-29-2017, 06:53 PM
Laugh if you want, there are good reasons to live in the middle of no where. Sioux Falls, SD is a straight shot south of Grand Forks, and once you get to South Dakota, the speed limit on I-29 is 80-MPH. Meaning, it's not going to be like driving on the east coast. Stuck in traffic jams and very low speed limits.

At the right time of day, the normal speed on the NJ Turnpike is easily 80 mph. I-87 North of Albany is real quick, too.

Goon
04-29-2017, 07:32 PM
Like is it corn, or soybeans or a tree.

I can show you some of the wonderful sites this summer. Fish Devils Lake or Duck Hunting in the fall.
I have a fabulous cabin in the middle of central ND. :) There's some great golf course, too.

Slap Shot
04-29-2017, 09:05 PM
Let's see, cruising at 85 or stuck in traffic at crawling speed. I'll take being bored.

You already have.

If a person chooses to live in a place because the roads are empty....


I can show you some of the wonderful sites this summer. Fish Devils Lake or Duck Hunting in the fall.
I have a fabulous cabin in the middle of central ND. :) There's some great golf course, too.

Yes - the Dakotas are the only Midwest states with wildlife, golf courses and lakes.

They have however cornered the market on as....

Biddco
04-29-2017, 10:00 PM
I can show you some of the wonderful sites this summer. Fish Devils Lake or Duck Hunting in the fall.
I have a fabulous cabin in the middle of central ND. :) There's some great golf course, too.
I don't hunt but went to Teddy Roosevelt National Park for a bit last summer and it was gorgeous.

Shirtless Guy
04-29-2017, 10:05 PM
You already have.

If a person chooses to live in a place because the roads are empty....



Yes - the Dakotas are the only Midwest states with wildlife, golf courses and lakes.

They have however cornered the market on as....
This day and age there are few places in the upper Midwest that compare to the dakotas for bird hunting, especially waterfowl. You CAN hunt in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and others but for the most part, it really doesn't compare at all.

Slap Shot
04-30-2017, 04:52 AM
And it's but a short drive away.

vizoroo
04-30-2017, 03:42 PM
Michigan Tech is like the Babe Ruth of the Traitor Program Hall of Fame. They were the original traitors and yet have the insane treachery numbers to back up their spot as the founding member. Notre Dame is more like a Hank Aaron. They ultimately surpassed Michigan Tech's raw treachery numbers (although, unlike the baseball analogy, Michigan Tech's and Notre Dame's traitorous exploits could continue to haunt their conference brethren for years to come), but still don't have the cache of Michigan Tech's treachery.

It is a close call though, and i'm not sure if you can really go wrong with either choice. :p:D:D
For honorable Mention: Don't forget Michigan and Michigan State--WCHA-CCHA-b1g.

davyd83
04-30-2017, 10:31 PM
The NCAA didn't screw the west. Sioux Falls & Fargo were the only ones west of Allentown to bid for regionals in 2018 & 2019.

Shirtless Guy
04-30-2017, 10:56 PM
The NCAA didn't screw the west. Sioux Falls & Fargo were the only ones west of Allentown to bid for regionals in 2018 & 2019.
The process screwed the west...stop making excuses for the NCAA.

davyd83
04-30-2017, 11:29 PM
The process screwed the west...stop making excuses for the NCAA.

If no one bid, who do you select. Coaches & ADs have consistently pushed against campus sites including most, if not all from the NCHC & WCHA. Madison, Milwaukee, Toledo, Fort Wayne, Des Moines, Omaha, Bloomington, Il, Grand Rapids & Green Bay all have suitable facilities. Nobody bid.

davyd83
04-30-2017, 11:36 PM
Abandon the "national tournament" for the regionals. Rank the "east" 1-8, rank the "west" 1-8, and have 2 regionals in the east, since that works. In the west, have a super regional, with 8 teams, to determine the 2 west teams going to the F4. This can be done permanently in MSP, at either the X or TC, or rotating between the 2. Of course, the NCAA won't don this.

Which of those facilities has dressing rooms and training facilities for 8 teams at once? How would the ice quality be affected by 14 practices & 7 games over a few days? The Target Center & the Timberwolves aren't going to clear back to back weekends for the NCHC & NCAA tourneys.

Shirtless Guy
04-30-2017, 11:50 PM
If no one bid, who do you select. Coaches & ADs have consistently pushed against campus sites including most, if not all from the NCHC & WCHA. Madison, Milwaukee, Toledo, Fort Wayne, Des Moines, Omaha, Bloomington, Il, Grand Rapids & Green Bay all have suitable facilities. Nobody bid.the point is that the spread out nature of the west has really limited success in the west so requirements are too stiff to allow these western regionals to succeed, bc ticket prices are too high to get casual fans in the door and hardly anyone can afford to travel on 1-week notice.

It seems likely that Allentown will realize this after the next two years. That is why I say the process has failed. The re suitable locations but very few are anywhere near the hockey hotbeds, and despite what many think, college hockey fans don't really travel that well in the west.

I think you could see improvement in Bids the next round with Minnesota getting back in and Wisconsin too if they're willing to host at their old barn. I also think some of the Minnesota schools should consider hosting in ea h others buildings. BSU > UMD, UMD > BSU and same for MSU/SCSU. Be interesting to see what the NCAA would do in that situation.

Shirtless Guy
04-30-2017, 11:54 PM
I don't know how you can act like it's the schools/arenas at fault when it's obvious to me that the midwestern arenas that can host have very little incentive to since regionals in Green Bay, Grand Rapids, Cincinnati, Toledo and Fort Wayne have all failed when tried. There are not many venues left that make any sense that have never hosted a regional...none of them see a point in trying again bc of all the rules and the fact that 5k would be a "success."