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The Sicatoka
04-18-2017, 02:42 PM
100% on campus and owned by the university. I have no idea how they got an alcohol license.

REA is on UND owned land; but, UND is a dry campus by state law.
Special exception had to be given by the State under the lease agreement that allows the building on state lands.

(UND doesn't take full ownership of the building until like 2030 or so.)

The Sicatoka
04-18-2017, 02:43 PM
Being able to serve alcohol has zero to do with whether it is on campus or not.

Yup.
The NCAA requires the teetotalism at their events.

The Sicatoka
04-18-2017, 02:45 PM
Something tells me the only reason the NCAA signed on to a 10K arena in the middle of South Dakota is the guarantee of North Dakota fans filling it up.

Check your map. Pierre is in the middle; Sioux Falls is closer to IA, MN, and NE than it is to ND.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sioux+Falls,+SD/@43.3574784,-97.9287169,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x878eb498e0bdacd7:0xde95ff3aa8b2f ccf!8m2!3d43.5445959!4d-96.7311034


Food for thought:
UND (host) to "Hawks" Falls -- 320 miles
Allentown (Midwest Regional) to Worcester (NE Regional) -- 275 miles, and Bridgeport (East) is on the road in between.

icehawk
04-18-2017, 02:46 PM
How could the NCAA allow to have it at SIOUX Falls?

Tater
04-18-2017, 02:46 PM
Yup.
The NCAA requires the teetotalism at their events.

Well that's true but different conversation. Hawk's thinking was that Agganis wasn't considered on campus at BU because they have a liquor license. It's irrelevant.

-- but yeah, they require teetotalism but sell alcohol outside the arena for 5 hours before the game starts at Frozen Fest. Hypocrites.

icehawk
04-18-2017, 02:48 PM
Sioux Falls is an interesting site. Both Mankato and St. Cloud are closer to Sioux Falls than Grand Forks is. If it works as a site, perhaps there could be a different host school in future years.

And it's a nice new building.

300 miles straight south on I-29 from Grand Forks. Hop skip and a jump and you are there.

The Sicatoka
04-18-2017, 02:58 PM
How could the NCAA allow to have it at SIOUX Falls?

Well, the Frozen Four host site was full of ... that kind of logo (http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDI5WDUwMA==/z/LOwAAOxyUrZS-pMF/$_3.JPG?set_id=2) ... this year.

UML Puck Hawk
04-18-2017, 03:14 PM
Being able to serve alcohol has zero to do with whether it is on campus or not.

That's also not what I said.

Its not worth getting into...

Riz
04-18-2017, 03:16 PM
I'm from Denver and I'm not even mad. Saw this coming from a mile away.


300 miles straight south on I-29 from Grand Forks. Hop skip and a jump and you are there.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves and assume that North Dakota will actually be there next year...

Patman
04-18-2017, 03:30 PM
So Bemidji State bids to host at the DECC (UMD) or NHC (SCSU) or REA (UND)?

No, the NCAA forbids men's basketball from having the school in their host regional. That is to say if UConn hosts basketball in Hartford they can't play in hartford

Patman
04-18-2017, 03:31 PM
Being able to serve alcohol has zero to do with whether it is on campus or not.

Yeah, turned out years ago this was a misnomer

tape
04-18-2017, 03:39 PM
Humourously Lowell and BU could bid for their home arena's to host, as neither is legally "on campus"

Considering that UML now owns the arena outright and that it is contiguously connected to East Campus, I'd be inclined to argue otherwise.

Biddco
04-18-2017, 03:44 PM
I understand his issues, I am simply pointing out the obvious answer which might hurt his feelings. Notre Dame got to host at Compton 2 years ago. Nothing is stopping Duluth from bidding for a home regional, I would bet good money (or beer) that they would have received it had they bid.
They did put a bid to host at Amsoil for either 2013 or 2014 but did not win. Having the top four seeds host regionals would be the best set up but obviously legistics are difficult for the arena (holding a weekend open, locker rooms, facilities, etc)

I am starting to wonder if because of the lack of quality neutral sites and ticket sales that the coaches will be looking to change the format for regionals. We are starting to see a rotation for the same places and few changes out west as well.

Patman
04-18-2017, 03:47 PM
Considering that UML now owns the arena outright and that it is contiguously connected to East Campus, I'd be inclined to argue otherwise.

Also why I posted what I did... it was long argued that "no alcohol" was because the school put it on the campus map.

No, it's because a previous chancellor wanted to not deal with student drinking.

It was never a NCAA provision.

New chancellor comes in (Marty) changes it.... eventually gets the school to buy the arena

Patman
04-18-2017, 03:49 PM
They did put a bid to host at Amsoil for either 2013 or 2014 but did not win. Having the top four seeds host regionals would be the best set up but obviously legistics are difficult for the arena (holding a weekend open, locker rooms, facilities, etc)

I am starting to wonder if because of the lack of quality neutral sites and ticket sales that the coaches will be looking to change the format for regionals. We are starting to see a rotation for the same places and few changes out west as well.

Six teams was perfection, honestly. Two games a night for two nights. Enough to entice locals, no worry about a three day session... two regionals likely hosted in populated places

Everything else has been down wind of that

brassbonanza
04-18-2017, 03:50 PM
Check your map. Pierre is in the middle; Sioux Falls is closer to IA, MN, and NE than it is to ND.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sioux+Falls,+SD/@43.3574784,-97.9287169,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x878eb498e0bdacd7:0xde95ff3aa8b2f ccf!8m2!3d43.5445959!4d-96.7311034


Food for thought:
UND (host) to "Hawks" Falls -- 320 miles
Allentown (Midwest Regional) to Worcester (NE Regional) -- 275 miles, and Bridgeport (East) is on the road in between.

Thanks for the geography lesson, I didn't know that. I also definitely wasn't using the phrase "in the middle of" in a tongue-in-cheek slang manner.

BU2K
04-18-2017, 04:02 PM
- but yeah, they require teetotalism but sell alcohol outside the arena for 5 hours before the game starts at Frozen Fest. Hypocrites.

Or inside the arena if you spring for a "hospitality package".

Scarlet
04-18-2017, 04:04 PM
Check your map. Pierre is in the middle; Sioux Falls is closer to IA, MN, and NE than it is to ND.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sioux+Falls,+SD/@43.3574784,-97.9287169,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x878eb498e0bdacd7:0xde95ff3aa8b2f ccf!8m2!3d43.5445959!4d-96.7311034


Food for thought:
UND (host) to "Hawks" Falls -- 320 miles
Allentown (Midwest Regional) to Worcester (NE Regional) -- 275 miles, and Bridgeport (East) is on the road in between.

If you've ever driven on that road you would know that it would be quicker to drive from Allentown to Fargo in the time it takes to go from Hartford to NYC. Or Bridgeport to NYC. :)

Scarlet
04-18-2017, 04:07 PM
That's also not what I said.

Its not worth getting into...

Are you saying the University said the rink wasn't on campus and that's why they got the liquor license? Because that's incorrect as well.

Russell Jaslow
04-18-2017, 04:13 PM
If you've ever driven on that road you would know that it would be quicker to drive from Allentown to Fargo in the time it takes to go from Hartford to NYC. Or Bridgeport to NYC. :)

Sadly, you are correct. :-(