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WiscTJK
03-02-2017, 12:58 PM
Had to bump over the Chinese hackers. I do love good Chinese food though.

funny Timothy.

nice article by Baggot: http://www.uwbadgers.com/news/2017/3/1/mens-hockey-determining-lineups-no-easy-feat-with-talented-badgers-roster.aspx

Tiggsy
03-02-2017, 02:51 PM
They entered the NCAA tournament 4th overall nationally and were buried on UW-specific outlets...it will be an extremely long road to get the enthusiasm back on track. It's not just about bringing fans back, it's about building the new fan base largely from scratch, and teaching them what the heck college hockey actually is.

I lived in a smallish town with a pretty competitive D3 team in WI for a few years, and even then they rarely got the lead. High school stuff seemed to trump it all the time. My experience is that hockey hardly existed outside a 20 mile radius of the KC. It was pretty sad searching for information.

MadCityRich
03-02-2017, 08:54 PM
So...what are you feeling? I think the Badgers will be ready for the rematch. The defense was really challenged last time and I think OZ will be able to make some chicken salad out of chicken ****. Of course, hoping for at least a split. This thread is so quiet; no mention of PSU; no Wisconsin @ PSU thread; I had to go to page 3 (Feb 21) to find anything posted by a PSU fan. This is a yuge series......WHAT THE Fire trUCK?

UWisco
03-02-2017, 09:09 PM
So...what are you feeling? I think the Badgers will be ready for the rematch. The defense was really challenged last time and I think OZ will be able to make some chicken salad out of chicken ****. Of course, hoping for at least a split. This thread is so quiet; no mention of PSU; no Wisconsin @ PSU thread; I had to go to page 3 (Feb 21) to find anything posted by a PSU fan. This is a yuge series......WHAT THE Fire trUCK?

I'm excited about the series don't get me wrong, but it's hard to be fired up on the forum when there aren't any PSU fans on here.

A split this weekend would be nice but more than that would be outstanding. I don't think many of us thought we would be in a position with two weeks left to put ourselves into the tournament at this time last year. It's amazing how a new crop of coaches and a new playing style can change a hockey team.

solovsfett
03-03-2017, 07:22 AM
So...what are you feeling? I think the Badgers will be ready for the rematch. The defense was really challenged last time and I think OZ will be able to make some chicken salad out of chicken ****. Of course, hoping for at least a split. This thread is so quiet; no mention of PSU; no Wisconsin @ PSU thread; I had to go to page 3 (Feb 21) to find anything posted by a PSU fan. This is a yuge series......WHAT THE Fire trUCK?

I'm hoping for a split based on the fact psu (and I really am starting to HATE that team) blew uw's doors off 3 weeks ago.

However, G2O is a tremendous staff and this team played great since psu and I think the coaches have gotten a lot out of this team the past two weeks.

So, I'm getting some thinner after work and will be excited to tune in

The Hallucination
03-03-2017, 07:50 AM
A split this weekend would be nice but more than that would be outstanding. I don't think many of us thought we would be in a position with two weeks left to put ourselves into the tournament at this time last year. It's amazing how a new crop of coaches and a new playing style can change a hockey team.

Ditto!

I've been quiet on here still, but it is so fun to see them in a competitive position again. I'm looking forward to an increased obsession with pairwise rankings over the next couple of weeks.

gwhinwi
03-03-2017, 08:10 AM
The sad thing about the PWR is that anything other than a sweep hurts us this weekend (obviously other outside results can impact it as well.)

Crainer
03-03-2017, 08:17 AM
Game Day! What happened a couple of weeks ago was definitely out of character for this team. Also, I think that was the best that Penn St's D had played this year. Much closer games.

KaMiGo
03-03-2017, 08:34 AM
I'm looking forward to an increased obsession with pairwise rankings over the next couple of weeks.

I came across this (http://blog.collegehockeyranked.com/) site recently. It gives the range of possible PWR landing spots based on the possible weekend outcomes. It also shows it as a probability function so you can see how likely it would be to land at any given spot given any outcome from the team.

<img src="http://blog.collegehockeyranked.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/wisconsin.png" />

You can see that Wisconsin can end up anywhere from 9th with a sweep and other things going our way all of the way down to 19thif we get swept and things go against us.
Likely outcomes are: sweep and get to 9th, split and sit at 13 or 14, get swept and end up at 18th
Possible outcomes are: sweep = 9-10, split = 11-16, swept = 15-19

Conversely, Penn State's possibilities are:
Sweep = 5-7, split = 9, swept = 11-15

<img src="http://blog.collegehockeyranked.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/pennstate.png" />

Stick tap to Innova for posting a picture the other day to remind me how to code the post so the pictures actually show up in the post :D

The Hallucination
03-03-2017, 08:50 AM
A sweep obviously would be awesome, but I think a split is a more likely outcome. Really, they just need to avoid getting swept. I'm hoping for a split, taking care of business against OSU, and then we'll see how things fall...

Wisko McBadgerton
03-03-2017, 09:17 AM
Of their 4 remaining games, winning 3 will put the Badgers inside the bubble headed to the B1G Tourney at 12 or better PWR and in good shape. Win 2 and they will be on the bubble at 13-16 and almost certainly needing 1 or more wins post season plus maybe some help. Win 1 or 0 and (likely) 3 wins to the B1G Championship is the only way in. Given that, it is critical to get a win this weekend.*

Personally I think the Badgers are a bit better on a small sheet as it's a bit easier to cover in your own zone and not lose a guy free to the net in a smaller space, plus they score in transition or off neutral zone turnovers which isn't really hindered a lot by a smaller sheet. Otoh, they last played on a small sheet 7 games ago at MSU.
Of course PSU is a good team with good players and as we saw here it really comes down to compete level, something Penn St. dominated all weekend here. If the Badgers are to go to the NCAA's it looks like they are just going to have to physically out work PSU on every play of every period this weekend to hopefully turn the tables.


*Edit: I should add that garnering at least a split both weekends guarantees no worse than 2nd in the B1G and a huge bye to the semi at the B1G tourney.

Wisko McBadgerton
03-03-2017, 09:33 AM
It's amazing how a new crop of coaches and a new playing style can change a hockey team.


I agree and G2O deserves a ton of credit, I think in particular the way they have gone about instilling confidence in the players and the team. You never hear Tony be anything but positive about the boys, even when they have earned some criticism. I think he said the other day and it's true, all these guys were all recruited to Wisconsin because they are good players, and the staff has done a tremendous job in re-instilling that idea in the boys.

I would have to say too though that it helps that a lot of these guys have grown up quite a bit. Two years ago WI was 42nd in the country in average weight of players and today they're 9th, at just a touch under 193#'s. That quite a help in competing for pucks and winning battles.

Innova
03-03-2017, 10:09 AM
My daughter plays hockey, wondering what age group your daughter plays? Mine has played both U10 and U12 this season. Both are going to State Tournament so I'm off to balmy Superior this weekend and Hudson next weekend lol.

My daughter is a first year Peewee this year (all three girls in the pic are playing on the boys team yet). We missed state this year (Peewee B), but our A team is going.

BuB
03-03-2017, 11:51 AM
*Edit: I should add that garnering at least a split both weekends guarantees no worse than 2nd in the B1G and a huge bye to the semi at the B1G tourney.

This aspect of the next four games has not been talked about a lot but I think is crucial to the Badgers making it to the NCAA's. Advancing straight to the Semi's would help tremendously in terms of: 1 - Avoiding a potentially PWR damaging loss in the conference quarters and 2 - keeping us fresh for a then ultra-critical conference semi (probably vs PSU).

Timothy A
03-03-2017, 12:33 PM
Game Day! What happened a couple of weeks ago was definitely out of character for this team.

So out of character is right, all a part of growing pains I guess. It was a great bounce back after that, let's keep the hammer down boys. 20 regular season wins or bust. Who would have thought that was remotely going into the season? I don't even think G2O did.

Interesting point by Wisko on the lad's weight and winning 1 on 1 battles.

No tv tonight? ERRR! I'm anxious to watch this series.

Heads up the gals are playing the sue @ 2 today. Fire up the computers and "work" really hard this afternoon. I know I will be. ;)

jwilli
03-03-2017, 01:01 PM
If Berry plays well and wins tonight, is this the weekend he gets the Saturday nod over Jurisic? I thought it was a strong possibility against the Goofs given how "on" Jack was for most of the night. As important as these last two weeks are, does Tony finally ride the hotter goalie?

KaMiGo
03-03-2017, 01:02 PM
No tv tonight? ERRR! I'm anxious to watch this series.


Game is available to stream through BTN+

They don't have a single game option, or a single month option. The least expensive way would be to get the monthly pass ($9.95) and cancel your subscription before it automatically renews. Personally, I don't know that it is worth $10 to watch a single game.

I've tried it in the past, and their systems is kind of messy. You can subscribe through the website easily enough, but you have to e-mail a request to have your account canceled. That business model seems kind of shady to me. Like they are planning on getting the renewals because people can't find the "cancel" button on the website so they just give up and let it keep racking up $10/month.

Caveat emptor


***update***
I guess things may have changed since my last experiences with BTN+. See post by GBBadger14 for updated info

GBBadger14
03-03-2017, 01:10 PM
Game is available to stream through BTN+

They don't have a single game option, or a single month option. The least expensive way would be to get the monthly pass ($9.95) and cancel your subscription before it automatically renews. Personally, I don't know that it is worth $10 to watch a single game.

I've tried it in the past, and their systems is kind of messy. You can subscribe through the website easily enough, but you have to e-mail a request to have your account canceled. That business model seems kind of shady to me. Like they are planning on getting the renewals because people can't find the "cancel" button on the website so they just give up and let it keep racking up $10/month.

Caveat emptor

They've updated the cancellation system. I just signed up for the monthly one this morning, and there's an "auto-renew" box you can uncheck when purchasing.

Does anyone else use BTN2Go a lot and find it incredibly annoying that they show tweets and news stories right on the badgers home page? Makes for a real pain in the butt when I want to go on and start watching a game from the beginning when it's already started.

ChrisTheTurk
03-03-2017, 01:13 PM
Game is available to stream through BTN+

They don't have a single game option, or a single month option. The least expensive way would be to get the monthly pass ($9.95) and cancel your subscription before it automatically renews. Personally, I don't know that it is worth $10 to watch a single game.

I've tried it in the past, and their systems is kind of messy. You can subscribe through the website easily enough, but you have to e-mail a request to have your account canceled. That business model seems kind of shady to me. Like they are planning on getting the renewals because people can't find the "cancel" button on the website so they just give up and let it keep racking up $10/month.

Caveat emptor

To piggy back onto this, when my dad and I tried to stream one of the series a few week ago, the quality of the stream was real bad, too. That might have been our internet, or the device we were streaming on, but I wouldn't say we walked away impressed with the service. It looked like watching hockey on a TV with rabbit ears.

Still, how crazy is it that this team is now good and exciting enough that we actually considered paying for a steam? The last couple of seasons we often couldn't be bothered even when they were on BTN proper.

gwhinwi
03-03-2017, 01:22 PM
I had BTN Plus for a month earlier in the year when almost every woman's game was on there and it was painful most times. There would be lockups in the stream, massive time delays, and they didn't seem to care one bit when you complained about it.