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markwojo
07-03-2017, 10:53 AM
Wow. Big news for UW. I'm actually torn if I'd like to see him this season or next. He would help upgrade the back end this season along with the arrival of Inamoto, Kalynuk and Ess. The upgrade in defensemen next year is going to be absolutely ridiculous with Ty Emberson, K'Andre Miller, the 2 Krygiers and Peltonen arriving on campus, so having a guy like that with 6 stud defensemen in front of him could be special.

Honestly, this year will probably be more critical to keep the headwinds in the program we gained last year. Our blueline is still rather thin, and having outstanding goaltending will help transition a pair of 18 year old kids (Inamoto and Ness) along with an older frosh in Kalynuk. Hopefully Greenway shows significant progress in his game as his decision making was stunningly bad at times last season (which for an 18 year old frosh is not that uncommon). Hopefully those 3 frosh and Greenway develop while we still have Linhart, Davison, and Tischke to do some of the heavy lifting this year. Next years group of freshman D is ridiculously good and I would imagine despite 3 of them being true 18 year old frosh that they will as a group transition smoother then this years group of new comers.

GBBadger14
07-03-2017, 03:10 PM
Milewski weighs in...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is possible but also has some hurdles left. Saints coach Mark Morris said Sunday that Hayton hasn&#39;t graduated and doesn&#39;t have release. <a href="https://t.co/yDzsk2bB8F">https://t.co/yDzsk2bB8F</a></p>&mdash; Todd Milewski (@ToddMilewski) <a href="https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/status/881911685845577729">July 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Timothy A
07-03-2017, 09:42 PM
What lakes do you frequent for the 'lunge? Might as well talk fishin' .

Monona & Waubesa, focusing more on Monona this year.

Wicked Slappaahs
07-03-2017, 10:02 PM
Milewski weighs in...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is possible but also has some hurdles left. Saints coach Mark Morris said Sunday that Hayton hasn&#39;t graduated and doesn&#39;t have release. <a href="https://t.co/yDzsk2bB8F">https://t.co/yDzsk2bB8F</a></p>&mdash; Todd Milewski (@ToddMilewski) <a href="https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/status/881911685845577729">July 3, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sconny fans should be pumped to get Hayton. Have watched him for 3 years and he can flat out steal periods/games. When he's on (most of the time ) he's always on his angles and is extremely quick. He does have a bit of a temper and have seen kids get into his head by buzzing him and crashing the net. But he's matured and Saw less retaliation from him in last year or so. He will steal some games for you b

ExileOnDaytonStreet
07-03-2017, 10:31 PM
Wouldn't hurt to see a guy like that come in.

While I won't have any bad things to say about our netminders, I will say that we're still recovering from Opilka backing out.

Wicked Slappaahs
07-03-2017, 10:41 PM
Wouldn't hurt to see a guy like that come in.

While I won't have any bad things to say about our netminders, I will say that we're still recovering from Opilka backing out.

Just an FYI - not a SLU fan, but watch a lot of ECAC hockey. He's the real deal. Not big kid, but competes like hell and is really really quick. Should be fun to see if he can earn the top spot for when the Saints visit Madison in the fall.

Bratbill
07-04-2017, 09:42 AM
Just an FYI - not a SLU fan, but watch a lot of ECAC hockey. He's the real deal. Not big kid, but competes like hell and is really really quick. Should be fun to see if he can earn the top spot for when the Saints visit Madison in the fall.

So how come he's not been drafted in Nhl ?

joecct
07-04-2017, 09:59 AM
So how come he's not been drafted in Nhl ?

I'm guessing when he was 18, his stock was low.

critsports
07-04-2017, 10:03 AM
So how come he's not been drafted in Nhl ?

If you follow the NHL at all...........size matters. Kyle is not a large or tall goalie. He is very thin but quick as all get out. Although not drafted...........there were several mentions in the press that with the NHL not participating in the Olympics........Kyle was one of several potential goalies mentioned as possibilities for the USA.

My guess is his draft year went by........but when he graduates, some NHL team will sign him and see if/how he develops. Can almost guarantee that.

bucky15
07-04-2017, 10:04 AM
I'm guessing when he was 18, his stock was low.

His size is the main reason. Goalies aren't getting drafted as high or at all like they used to. Need to be at least 6'2 to get looked at on draft day.

MadCityRich
07-04-2017, 11:19 AM
I'm not holding my breath, but of course he would be welcome. Competition will make the others better.

SLUfan442
07-04-2017, 09:00 PM
So the SLU fans have now reported on their facebook site that Kyle Haydon will be a Badger this fall. How about talking about that. ;)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/203130979728057/

I have it on extremely good authority Hayton will be a grad transfer and eligible to play this fall. This kid may well be the best goalie in college hockey and a money player when it's on the iine. Not a huge goalie, but super quick post to post and low down. His numbers are pretty incredible for three years straight. Goodness knows what those might look like with a team like Wisconsin in front of him. ESPN picked him to be on Team USA if the pros don't go to the Olympics.
Our great loss is your great gain.

Timothy A
07-05-2017, 12:44 PM
For some reason this Haydon rumor doesn't get me all that jacked up. Berry played very well when Jurusik got hurt and Jurusik upped his game as well, it was was D in front that had the most issues in not supporting the goaltending very well. They still could be young up front if the 3 Fr see a lot of ice time, though they are a very talented trio and 1 is very experienced, one experienced and 1 pretty green.

hockeyplayer1015
07-05-2017, 02:42 PM
For some reason this Haydon rumor doesn't get me all that jacked up. Berry played very well when Jurusik got hurt and Jurusik upped his game as well, it was was D in front that had the most issues in not supporting the goaltending very well. They still could be young up front if the 3 Fr see a lot of ice time, though they are a very talented trio and 1 is very experienced, one experienced and 1 pretty green.

It's Hayton, FYI.

Here's the thing, Kyle has had some pretty darn good defense in front of him, but the team has rarely been a possession dominant team. More to the point, most games, he would face more shots allowed than the team had shots for. He still put up top 5-10 national numbers for 3 seasons. It isn't the result of the "system" artificially inflating numbers (think Cornell, etc).

I guarantee you every ECAC team is happy to not face him, because he absolutely can steal games.

markwojo
07-05-2017, 02:46 PM
I'm ecstatic. Our goaltending was inconsistent at best including Berry. Jurusik has 2 years of track record and I have less hope for him improving significantly then Berry who was only a frosh and showed improvement through the season.. Hayton was 7th in the country in save percentage while our tandem were 61 and 73. More competition is exactly what we need in net. If Berry or Jurusik can step up to the level Hayton has played at the last 3 years, then great they get to play. If they don't, we'll be much better in net then we have been in recent years.

Timothy A
07-06-2017, 06:34 AM
I'm ecstatic. Our goaltending was inconsistent at best including Berry. Jurusik has 2 years of track record and I have less hope for him improving significantly then Berry who was only a frosh and showed improvement through the season.. Hayton was 7th in the country in save percentage while our tandem were 61 and 73. More competition is exactly what we need in net. If Berry or Jurusik can step up to the level Hayton has played at the last 3 years, then great they get to play. If they don't, we'll be much better in net then we have been in recent years.

Their save percentages don't convey how well they played later in the season nor the poor support they had. I agree Berry's top end is higher than Jurusik's, though I think Jurusik's improvement was greater over the year than Berry's. I don't think Hayton coming in for just this year will put them over the top. I think the upcoming year will be not much improvement over last due to the fact that last year was such an amazing improvement.

bucky15
07-06-2017, 08:02 AM
Their save percentages don't convey how well they played later in the season nor the poor support they had. I agree Berry's top end is higher than Jurusik's, though I think Jurusik's improvement was greater over the year than Berry's. I don't think Hayton coming in for just this year will put them over the top. I think the upcoming year will be not much improvement over last due to the fact that last year was such an amazing improvement.

Still need to come up with a save from time to time in those D breakdown situations. After last year, this teams goals are most likely win B1G and make the tournament. With Hayton in the mix it becomes more realistic.

markwojo
07-06-2017, 10:35 AM
Timothy A. Sorry, I didn't see much improvement during the season from Jurusik who to put it politely was not good down the stretch. His play got himself attached to the bench for last 4 games. Jurusik's last 5 games he played, he went 2-3, 4.2 goals against, and .885 save percentage. Berry was the same 2-3 but with a 3.0 goals against and .893 save percentage in his last 5 which included the conference tourney.

And I get quality of shots, quality of defense in front of a goalie, and many other factors are hidden in basic stats like goals against and save percentage. But in the end over a big enough sample size they do mean something and especially compared to your other goalie who in a majority of the comparison is going against the same team the night before. Of Jurusik's 15 starts, he gave up 5+ goals in 4 of them and 4+ goals in 7. So basically in a quarter of his starts, he gave his team almost no chance of winning (cause out scoring 5 goals against isn't happening often) and in a half of his starts he gave them not much of a chance. For comparisons sake, in Hayton's sophomore year, he had ZERO games allowing 5+ and a total of 2 where he allowed 4+ in 33 starts. Last year Hayton had two 5+ goal games and 7 total 4+ games in 35 starts. Over Hayton's career of 103 starts he has a grand total of 4 games he has yield 5+ goal which is the same total as Jurusik did in 15 start this season.

Hayton would be a massive upgrade for the Badgers in net.

Gurtholfin
07-06-2017, 11:22 AM
Well said. ^

I agree.

Timothy A
07-06-2017, 12:52 PM
Timothy A. Sorry, I didn't see much improvement during the season from Jurusik who to put it politely was not good down the stretch. His play got himself attached to the bench for last 4 games. Jurusik's last 5 games he played, he went 2-3, 4.2 goals against, and .885 save percentage. Berry was the same 2-3 but with a 3.0 goals against and .893 save percentage in his last 5 which included the conference tourney.

And I get quality of shots, quality of defense in front of a goalie, and many other factors are hidden in basic stats like goals against and save percentage. But in the end over a big enough sample size they do mean something and especially compared to your other goalie who in a majority of the comparison is going against the same team the night before. Of Jurusik's 15 starts, he gave up 5+ goals in 4 of them and 4+ goals in 7. So basically in a quarter of his starts, he gave his team almost no chance of winning (cause out scoring 5 goals against isn't happening often) and in a half of his starts he gave them not much of a chance. For comparisons sake, in Hayton's sophomore year, he had ZERO games allowing 5+ and a total of 2 where he allowed 4+ in 33 starts. Last year Hayton had two 5+ goal games and 7 total 4+ games in 35 starts. Over Hayton's career of 103 starts he has a grand total of 4 games he has yield 5+ goal which is the same total as Jurusik did in 15 start this season.

Hayton would be a massive upgrade for the Badgers in net.

My men's team expectations must be lowering themselves in regards to goaltending. You certainly spell it all out. I wonder why they brought in Blomquist. Last year would have been a great opportunity to get his skates wet and see what he can do.