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Wisko McBadgerton
03-21-2016, 11:30 AM
At Wisconsin, he would have a shot at the NTDP level guys, the Besse types, the playmakers who can win a game by themselves.



But what would he do with them?

Zach Stepan put up 78 points in 56gp for Waterloo, was a member of the World Junior team, and after a decent freshman year (21 pts) has 9g 16a in 68 games played in his combined Sophomore and Junior seasons. Maybe that's all on Zach, but it's not the kind of development that makes me want to send my superstar kid to him.

In his 4th year (with more of his own recruits playing) outside of beating the dysfunctional Gophers 2 out of 3 early in the year, MSU was not very good. 13 wins vs. #'s 45, 51, 53, and 56 in PWR; 3-1 vs. Bemidji; (Not Bad) 3 wins in 11 games against BG, NMU and Ferris. (1 against each) Not a lot to be excited about there.

Hastings has obviously done well in the past and is very well regarded. I just question whether he is a good fit at Wisconsin.

WiscTJK
03-21-2016, 11:36 AM
Yes, although it'd be great to see whomever the new coach is to become more successful in recruiting local/legacy blue-chip kids.

I remember seeing the All-Decommit team (http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/wisconsin-badgers-mens-hockey/2015/3/2/8049835/wisconsin-hockey-the-mike-eaves-era-all-decommit-team) and wondering what it would look like with local/legacy whiffs.

Don't get me wrong, I would like to land those guys to, but having some Minnesota ties wouldn't hurt....

jk
03-21-2016, 11:48 AM
If you're looking to poach a good coach from the MN State system, is there a reason Motzko's name has not come up? He has ties to St. Cloud, but he's got to be the best coach in the West who is not already at a traditional power. Why leave his fantastic program? Money, prestige, the challenge, the chance to win an easy league regularly.

Buck 'em
03-21-2016, 12:03 PM
Once upon a time, Rico Blasi's name was pretty popular around this board. I admit I haven't really paid any attention to Miami (and I doubt he's being considered), but is he just not as good as some believed?

Bradz
03-21-2016, 12:16 PM
He has a particular type of mix he likes, which includes the right mixture of Besse/Kunin types, as long as they aren't primadonnas, play balls out, and are team guys. He mixes that with hard working not quite as skilled guys that know exactly what their role is and he has them take pride in it. That is what the Badgers need.

WiscTJK
03-21-2016, 12:25 PM
He has a particular type of mix he likes, which includes the right mixture of Besse/Kunin types, as long as they aren't primadonnas, play balls out, and are team guys. He mixes that with hard working not quite as skilled guys that know exactly what their role is and he has them take pride in it. That is what the Badgers need.

Motzko or Blasi?

Bradz
03-21-2016, 12:25 PM
I never have quite understood what "a good fit" means. In my mind a "good fit", at least in hockey is someone that wins games. What does a hockey coach need to be able to "fit"?

Bradz
03-21-2016, 12:28 PM
Sure...consider them all...but pick the one most likely to get the job done!

WiscTJK
03-21-2016, 12:36 PM
I haven't heard Fred Harbinson's name mentioned. Anyone know if someone like that from Canada major juniors and has wisconsin ties? His teams at Penticton have been great, but don't know much about him other than what I learned here.

Timothy A
03-21-2016, 12:40 PM
Did you notice this? :)

"However, applications will be accepted until the position has been filled."

"To ensure full consideration, complete applications must be received by 4:30 p.m. CDT, March 25, 2016. However, applications will be accepted until the position has been filled."

That is a total contradiction. You must get your app in by 3/25, but you can still send one on after 3/25. How stupid.

Blasi has cooled to me simply because Miami has cooled off the last 2 years.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-21-2016, 12:40 PM
Anything's possible, but FWIW he does seem to have a lot of titles (as in job titles) at Penticton (http://www.pentictonvees.ca/coaching-staff). Theoretically, that means he has more to give up there (including, presumably, some autonomy), even if this job would still be a "promotion" for him.

RedFreak
03-21-2016, 12:50 PM
"To ensure full consideration, complete applications must be received by 4:30 p.m. CDT, March 25, 2016. However, applications will be accepted until the position has been filled."

This just gives the UW maximum latitude. After the 25th they have the legal right to move whenever they want.

Timothy A
03-21-2016, 12:56 PM
This just gives the UW maximum latitude. After the 25th they have the legal right to move whenever they want.

I hate things that contradict like that. At any rate, this hire could be done 3/26 or any day after, which I like. No need to rush into it, which is what I had feared.

RedFreak
03-21-2016, 01:06 PM
I hate things that contradict like that.

I hear you. Lawyers are strange.

WiscDC
03-21-2016, 01:20 PM
Okay, so who all have we bandied about here as a candidate?

George Gwozdecky (HC, Valor Christian High School... no, not kidding)
Mark Johnson (HC, UW Women's Team)
Don Granato (HC, USNTDP U-17 Team)
Tony Granato (AC, Detroit Red Wings)
Mark Osiecki (AC, Rockford Icehogs)
Tim Coughlin (HC, St. Norbert)
Luke Strand (AC, UW Men's Team)
Steve Rohlik (HC, Ohio State)
Mike Hastings (HC, Minnesota State)
Rand Pecknold (HC, Quinnipiac)
Rick Bennett (HC, Union)
Nate Leaman (HC, Providence)

Who am I missing?

Bar-ry Mel-rose *clap clap clapclapclap*
Edit: ...and the ghost of Bob Johnson.

markwojo
03-21-2016, 01:26 PM
Once upon a time, Rico Blasi's name was pretty popular around this board. I admit I haven't really paid any attention to Miami (and I doubt he's being considered), but is he just not as good as some believed?

I think probably a combo of his star has dimmed somewhat and not an overly realistic candidate for other reasons. He just ended his 2nd disappointing out of the last 3 seasons and since he went back to back frozen fours he is mostly (other then one regional final loss) one and done or fails to make the tourney. Add in the fact that he signed a 10 year deal in 2013 (no idea if it has rolling add on years) and is reputed to have a compensation package in the 550K range (300K base plus bonuses and other perks), it would seem financially a stretch to steal him away. Throw in Miami is his alma mater and they have made commitments financially to facilities at Miami (new rink in 06/07 and a pretty regular flow of other improvements since) and all the pieces end up to not making much sense.

Not sure an expensive guy with his heart elsewhere that has 2 Frozen Four appearance in 17 years of head coaching on his resume that otherwise has managed to win 3 singular first round games in the NCAA tourney is much of an upgrade.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-21-2016, 01:44 PM
Bar-ry Mel-rose *clap clap clapclapclap*

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Innova
03-21-2016, 03:10 PM
I don't think this one is likely, but I have heard it brought up at a local rink: Chris Brooks (http://athletics.uwsp.edu/coaches.aspx?rc=931&path=mhockey).

Wisko McBadgerton
03-21-2016, 03:23 PM
Brian Posick said this morning that he met with Barry Friday afternoon. Brian thinks it will be a former Badger. Alvarez said he has a plan and the plan "will knock your socks off."

ExileOnDaytonStreet
03-21-2016, 03:43 PM
Alvarez said he has a plan and the plan "will knock your socks off."

His actual quote:


I tell you what, I'm gonna make Wisconsin Hockey great again. And I'm a smart guy. A real smart guy. I've been around, I know good words. I know all the words. And I'm gonna put in the right coach and you're going to love him. He's gonna knock your socks off and be a winner. Not a loser like that @$#! in Minnesota. That place is just full of haters and losers, like those miserable idiots on the USCHO forums. None of them have a clue what they're doing. Not aktick, not that fat guy ExileOnDaytonstreet, TimA... nobody. Not even Wisko McBadgerton, who's a good friend of mine.

But that Brick Hoser kid, we can't let that happen again. I mean, do we even know what's going on with our border these days? You got kids going here, kids going there, and they're not staying here. They're letting other guys come in and take our roster spots. So we're going to just build a wall around the state, and Minnesota and North Dakota are going to pay for it and not take our kids anymore. And if they don't like that, then that walls going to be... *takes off shoes and socks* ... like this many higher. But really, we need to stop letting coaches from other states into Wisconsin until we can figure out just what. in. the. heck. is. going. on!

And you know you can trust me. I've hired so many coaches. I've hired all the coaches, and I've never made a bad choice. You know what you're going to get from my coaches. I tell it like it is, I tell it like I see it, and we're the real state of hockey over here, you know? We're gonna be great again, and this new coach is gonna be yyyyuuuuuge. Fantastic. Real great guy. He'll be great. Fantastic. YYYYYUUUUUUGE. He will knock your socks off. Because we just don't win anymore, you know? We need to win again, we're going to win again, we're going to make Wisconsin great again.

Oh, and to answer your question, waiter, we'll have two king cut prime ribs, tails on, with a pint of tears. *turns to wife* What do you want, honey?.