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RPI @ Yale, Saturday, 1/30/16
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Fight Song
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Alma Mater
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Re: RPI @ Yale, Saturday, 1/30/16
Originally posted by RPI92 View PostFrom a PWR perspective, is this a must-win game?Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor
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Last night we only played 30 minutes and came away with a win. That is not going to work tonight.
We should have momentum coming out of last nights game, but Yale will be angry coming out of a loss.
We are going to need to be focused and come out ready to play. If we come out the way we did last night, we will not catch up to a team of Yale's caliber.
If we play our game for 60/65 minutes, we will be OK. That is all we can ask for.
As for the referees, they have not called many penalties in the last three weeks. I think that they have received different instructions than what they got in the past. I like the way the games have been called. With the exception of reviewing just about every goal. As for the goal that was waived off last night, the referee that signaled goal was in the perfect position, so I don't see why it even went to review. If he couldn't tell from where he was standing, he needs to get his eyes checked.
Lets go red!!!!!!!!!!Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
Gary Player
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Re: RPI @ Yale, Saturday, 1/30/16
EHF: From another perspective. Last night we played a team that gives up goals. Most games they play they have given up 3 or more. Even when we fell behind by 3 I am sure most of the team felt we could get back into the game (if not win it entirely). One key thing was not allowing that 4th goal to them. Although not given much credit for it, Kazzie just did what he had to after the first 3 and shut them off so we could complete a stirring comeback.
As you correctly point out, Yale is a different animal in that they allow as few goals as we do. Their goaltending is excellent and among the best in the league. They might not be scoring as they had in the past few years but they certainly have enough to win most of their games given the low scores against them. Different team, different game, different approach by us and hopefully we are not looking at another comeback needing to be made.
It is nice to have more total wins than total losses + ties at this time of the year. I think we have come around wonderfully for a team that started the way we did. But my mind every so often flips back to Alaska and where we would stand if we won one of those games (and perhaps tied the other) since we did have third period leads in them. With only a 36 game schedule for the season, just shows you have to get every point you can all the time.Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor
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Originally posted by DrDemento View Posti think I learned something from another thread from FlagDude...
Wait, what? We all know you can't type, but this is the longest typo ever.Uncle Mickey: July 23, 1950-July 22, 2003
WRPI, 91.5 FM...usually color commentary.
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Originally posted by DrDemento View PostEHF: From another perspective. Last night we played a team that gives up goals. Most games they play they have given up 3 or more. Even when we fell behind by 3 I am sure most of the team felt we could get back into the game (if not win it entirely). One key thing was not allowing that 4th goal to them. Although not given much credit for it, Kazzie just did what he had to after the first 3 and shut them off so we could complete a stirring comeback.
As you correctly point out, Yale is a different animal in that they allow as few goals as we do. Their goaltending is excellent and among the best in the league. They might not be scoring as they had in the past few years but they certainly have enough to win most of their games given the low scores against them. Different team, different game, different approach by us and hopefully we are not looking at another comeback needing to be made.
It is nice to have more total wins than total losses + ties at this time of the year. I think we have come around wonderfully for a team that started the way we did. But my mind every so often flips back to Alaska and where we would stand if we won one of those games (and perhaps tied the other) since we did have third period leads in them. With only a 36 game schedule for the season, just shows you have to get every point you can all the time.
We have a really good team this year. We are committed on defense (even with the bad turnovers in our own end), and we have been much better on offense than I expected. We just need to take one game at a time.Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
Gary Player
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Originally posted by engineerhockeyfan View PostDon't be so fixated on Alaska. That was more than made up for by Cam Hackett.
We have a really good team this year. We are committed on defense (even with the bad turnovers in our own end), and we have been much better on offense than I expected. We just need to take one game at a time.
- RPI and AA have 2 common opponents Alaska and ASU
- Records against ASU and wining percentage: RPI 2-0, 1.000; AA 1-0, 1.000
- Records against Alaska: RPI 0-1, .000; AA 0-1-1, .250
- Overall record and win % againt CO... RPI 2-1, .667; AA 1-1-1, .500
- Pairwise average of win %: RPI .500, AA .625
So in terms of overall record against CO, RPI is better, yet AA wins because the comparison is a mean of the means instead of the overall win %.
OK so that's a small sample size... there isn't really much of a difference really but... AA plays Alaska 2X times. If Alaska wins both of those games, then AA's CO record falls to 1-3-1 and overall win % to .300. Yet... their common opponents win % only falls to .567%.
It's hard to argue that any comparison where the team with a 1-3-1 record wins out over the team with a 2-1 record makes a lot of sense.
If I were to take a Flag Dude view of the world, who can look at an unopened bottle of beer and declare it half empty because of the small amount of air at the top of the neck, I would fully expect RPI to end up tied with another team at 15th in the PWR, lose the tie breaker because of a .0001 RPI difference, and end up on the outside of the tournament because of the autobid to AH. However, with the way this team is playing, I'm remain very optimistic. Just annoyed about this one stupid thing.
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Originally posted by jericho View PostWait, what? We all know you can't type, but this is the longest typo ever.Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor
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Originally posted by jmhusker View PostThe Alaska games bother me for another reason altogether and that has to do with what is a flaw in the PWR system (IMO). We are losing our pairwise comparison with Alaska Anchorage and have no hope of flipping it because of an idiosyncrasy of the common opponents comparison which plays out as such:
- RPI and AA have 2 common opponents Alaska and ASU
- Records against ASU and wining percentage: RPI 2-0, 1.000; AA 1-0, 1.000
- Records against Alaska: RPI 0-1, .000; AA 0-1-1, .250
- Overall record and win % againt CO... RPI 2-1, .667; AA 1-1-1, .500
- Pairwise average of win %: RPI .500, AA .625
So in terms of overall record against CO, RPI is better, yet AA wins because the comparison is a mean of the means instead of the overall win %.
OK so that's a small sample size... there isn't really much of a difference really but... AA plays Alaska 2X times. If Alaska wins both of those games, then AA's CO record falls to 1-3-1 and overall win % to .300. Yet... their common opponents win % only falls to .567%.
It's hard to argue that any comparison where the team with a 1-3-1 record wins out over the team with a 2-1 record makes a lot of sense.
If I were to take a Flag Dude view of the world, who can look at an unopened bottle of beer and declare it half empty because of the small amount of air at the top of the neck, I would fully expect RPI to end up tied with another team at 15th in the PWR, lose the tie breaker because of a .0001 RPI difference, and end up on the outside of the tournament because of the autobid to AH. However, with the way this team is playing, I'm remain very optimistic. Just annoyed about this one stupid thing.
All we can control is the next game. We have done all right so far, and we are playing really good hockey, so lets just continue what we are doing. At this point, nothing has been poured into the glass yet.
Think happy thoughts and just win baby.
lets go red!!!!!!!!!!!!!Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
The harder I practice, the luckier I get.
Gary Player
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Originally posted by engineerhockeyfan View PostDon't be so fixated on Alaska. That was more than made up for by Cam Hackett.
We have a really good team this year. We are committed on defense (even with the bad turnovers in our own end), and we have been much better on offense than I expected. We just need to take one game at a time.Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor
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Originally posted by engineerhockeyfan View PostJM. while everything you say is true, it is all in the past and there is nothing we can do about it.
All we can control is the next game. We have done all right so far, and we are playing really good hockey, so lets just continue what we are doing. At this point, nothing has been poured into the glass yet.
Think happy thoughts and just win baby.
lets go red!!!!!!!!!!!!!Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor
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