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gojackets
01-24-2016, 12:29 PM
Who's in the Laura Hurd discussion?

Is Michelle Greenway from Lake Forest the frontrunner?

She is a senior this year...she's lead Lake Forest in scoring all 4 years she's been there. (40pts, 40pts, 30pts, 36pts so far this year) Clear heart and leader of the team.

You assume Liwecki or Logan Taylor from Adrian is in contention.

Who from Plattsburh? Camille Leonard? Balisy?

Any of those NESCAC superheroes?

mngirlshockeymom
01-25-2016, 01:17 PM
Considering some of the girls mentioned below have gotten almost 1/3 of ther pts from Finlandia and Marian through the years ...kinda hard to determine who should be in the running!

PSUChamps2001
01-25-2016, 02:17 PM
Considering some of the girls mentioned below have gotten almost 1/3 of ther pts from Finlandia and Marian through the years ...kinda hard to determine who should be in the running!

The two leading scorers from Plattsburgh have a more than a point per game average against teams in the USCHO rankings. They may get some points against weaker teams but still show up against "the best".....

gojackets
01-25-2016, 02:45 PM
Considering some of the girls mentioned below have gotten almost 1/3 of ther pts from Finlandia and Marian through the years ...kinda hard to determine who should be in the running!

The same thing could be said for any of the top scorers out there.

Plattsburgh's Sheeran had 11/37 points against William Smith and Chatham...throw Oswego in there and you're up to 16/37...throw in Neuman and you're up to 23/37.
Plattsburgh's Menaghin had 14/36 points against William Smith and Chatham...throw in Oswego and you get 16/36...throw in Neuman and you're at 24/36

Greenway has 12/36 from Finlandia/Marian

Greenway had two big assists in the game against Adrian and assisted on the goal against Middlebury

gojackets
01-25-2016, 02:58 PM
The two leading scorers from Plattsburgh have a more than a point per game average against teams in the USCHO rankings. They may get some points against weaker teams but still show up against "the best".....

I get .75 pts/game for Sheeran and 1.25 for Menaghin :P

I don't picture it going to sophomores which is why I didn't include them on my list. I figure Balisy as a senior has a better chance and she's 3rd on the team and has always been top 3 it appears.

My opinion final 3 should include Greenway, Leonard, and possibly Balisy (only has 14 against the team listed above) or Lewicki (Lewicki has 23pts from Marian, Finlandia, Stevenson, Manhattanville)

Scott_TG
01-25-2016, 03:38 PM
I think Plattsburgh's finalist should be Sheeran despite her being a sophomore. She's just been that good.

mngirlshockeymom
01-25-2016, 04:36 PM
Typically the finalists are their conference players of the year!

PrezdeJohnson09
01-25-2016, 11:37 PM
Typically the finalists are their conference players of the year!

Correct. And the award has almost always gone to a senior seemingly to reward a career rather than a particular season.

spwood
01-29-2016, 09:43 AM
I'll put up my homer vote for Camille Leonard. Just in games against teams ranked at the time Plattsburgh played them (Norwich 2x, Adrian, Castleton, Gustavus (the only team to put up more than one goal in these games), and Middlebury), Leonard is 6-0, GAA .67, four shutouts and save % of .9672.

We'll see what happens this weekend when the Cards visit the dimly lit dungeon of the Domes!

PSUChamps2001
02-04-2016, 01:17 PM
A couple of things to ponder, while yes normally it does go to a Senior, the winner was 1st in the stats 4 of the past 5 times it was handed out to a forward. You have to go back almost 10 years before it was given to someone outside the Top 4 in scoring (2007).


Out of the top 8 Seniors this year:
Current Stats / Career Stats
Greenway (LF) 26-10-36 / 96-45-141
Taylor (Adr) 8-26-34 / 38-69-107
Kinsel (UWRF) 20-13-33 / 77-71-148
Reed (UTC) 16-15-31 / 48-50-98
Balisy (PSU) 10-20-30 / 49-61-110
Senese (PSU) 9-16-25 / 42-55-97
Jones (Adr) 6-17-23 / 19-38-57
Eder-Zdechlik (Gust) 14-6-20 / 55-34-89

Sheeran is now 6-6-12 in 7 games vs. USCHO Top 10 teams. Her 6 goals vs. Ranked teams is 1 more than the first 7 Seniors have against ranked teams, combined.

Points vs . USCHO Top 10
Sheeran 6-6-12 (sr)
Lewicki 3-0-3 (jr)
Meneghin 4-6-10(so)
Greenway 0-3-3 (sr)
Taylor 0-1-1
Kinsel 0-2-2
Reed 1-1-2
Balisy 2-4-6
Senese 1-2-3
Jones 1-2-3
Eder-Zdechlik 4-1-5 (T-25th overall)

If there is a year where the old "Heisman Rule" is broken, Sheeran could and should. 12 points vs. Ranked teams (only 9 teams) at almost 2 points per game in those games.

spwood
02-05-2016, 08:26 PM
I'll put up my homer vote for Camille Leonard. Just in games against teams ranked at the time Plattsburgh played them (Norwich 2x, Adrian, Castleton, Gustavus (the only team to put up more than one goal in these games), and Middlebury), Leonard is 6-0, GAA .67, four shutouts and save % of .9672.

We'll see what happens this weekend when the Cards visit the dimly lit dungeon of the Domes!

Well, after a weekend on the road at #2 Elmira, Leonard is now 8-0 against teams ranked at the time Plattsburgh played them, but her GAA has risen all the way to 1.00... ;)

gojackets
02-06-2016, 12:40 AM
Well, after a weekend on the road at #2 Elmira, Leonard is now 8-0 against teams ranked at the time Plattsburgh played them, but her GAA has risen all the way to 1.00... ;)

I would say if they run the table...it would be pretty hard to deny it to her.

Twolinepass
02-14-2016, 09:37 PM
She is obviously having a great year. But I do not agree that she is a slam dunk for Hurd. She is at 96.1% but only seeing 17 shots per game because the team in front of her is so **** good. There are several goalies that have lofty save percentages around 95% or better that see 1.5 to 2 times more shots per game:
1. Pechacek 96.3%, 36 SPG
2. Goin 95.1%, 27 SPG
3. Dobbins 94.8%, 27 SPG
4. Herrmann 95.3%, 31 SPG
5. Brown, 95.3%, 28 SPG

Also, other posters have indicated that the voters usually give it to a senior to reward a career. I believe Ms. Leonard is a junior and is only in her second year of full time playing.

spwood
02-15-2016, 07:26 AM
She is obviously having a great year. But I do not agree that she is a slam dunk for Hurd. She is at 96.1% but only seeing 17 shots per game because the team in front of her is so **** good. There are several goalies that have lofty save percentages around 95% or better that see 1.5 to 2 times more shots per game:
1. Pechacek 96.3%, 36 SPG
2. Goin 95.1%, 27 SPG
3. Dobbins 94.8%, 27 SPG
4. Herrmann 95.3%, 31 SPG
5. Brown, 95.3%, 28 SPG

Also, other posters have indicated that the voters usually give it to a senior to reward a career. I believe Ms. Leonard is a junior and is only in her second year of full time playing.

I never said she was a slam dunk... I said she had my (non-existent) vote... gojackets said it would be "hard to deny her". Haven't seen the term "slam dunk" or an equivalent anywhere...

gojackets
02-15-2016, 11:00 AM
I never said she was a slam dunk... I said she had my (non-existent) vote... gojackets said it would be "hard to deny her". Haven't seen the term "slam dunk" or an equivalent anywhere...

And with the loss on Saturday she's out in my opinion. I'm still going with Greenway.

Hammer
02-15-2016, 11:07 AM
And with the loss on Saturday she's out in my opinion. I'm still going with Greenway.

Greenway's going to go one way or the other this weekend against you-know-who. Right now, as much as I like Lewicki, it's Greenway in the West.

PSUChamps2001
02-15-2016, 11:38 AM
And with the loss on Saturday she's out in my opinion. I'm still going with Greenway.

3 points against Top 10 competition lol yea, well deserved. ...

SeymoreHockey
02-15-2016, 12:07 PM
3 points against Top 10 competition lol yea, well deserved. ...

Couldn't agree more. Until a team from the West accomplishes anything on the national stage, I consider them just "also rans"....in pretty much every respect.

gojackets
02-15-2016, 12:14 PM
3 points against Top 10 competition lol yea, well deserved. ...

It's hard to play multiple games against Top 10 competition when the teams out west don't get voted in. Those overinflated records out east really lead to the best teams.

I know you want one of the Plattsburgh sophomores to get it...but they won't.

PSUChamps2001
02-15-2016, 12:16 PM
It's hard to play multiple games against Top 10 competition when the teams out west don't get voted in. Those overinflated records out east really lead to the best teams.

I know you want one of the Plattsburgh sophomores to get it...but they won't.

Call me when a West team shows up in a game that matters...