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DeepRed72
02-20-2016, 11:13 AM
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20 | 0.2 0.9 0.0
21 | 0.0 0.7 1.4
22 | 0.0 2.1 6.9 3.4
23 | 0.5 5.7 6.2 1.2
24 | 0.0 0.1 5.7 23.2 5.8 0.2
25 | 0.0 1.4 8.4 4.9 0.0
26 | 0.9 6.0 11.6 2.6


Now we would need help to secure a bye even winning out.

That was even the case before last night, just not nearly as much.

lugnut92
02-20-2016, 12:38 PM
That was even the case before last night, just not nearly as much.

This is true.

jmhusker
02-20-2016, 03:58 PM
It'd be quite the way to end the annual meltdown, that's for sure.
Traveling in Asia this week and just got a chance to catch up on the board. Seems like more than a few people here have their knickers in such a twist that they risk being gelded. I'm not among them.

Coming into this season I hoped for improvement and clearly we've seen it. And I also think the compete level has been there. The only mysterious part here is why we sit back in the 3rd when leading so much. Maybe it's a strategy (not a great one if so) but I've gotta think we are just a couple of bodies short. Even so, the past 4 losses, which are being called a "meltdown" here, were all against good teams. And 3 of them, we clearly could have won. If this team were in a meltdown, we'd be losing badly to average teams. That is simply not happening.

Today's game should be more telling. I expect a solid win - even after the tough loss yesterday. If that happens then I suggest all of the meltdown talk should stop. The past is not always prologue folks. As a great Canadian once sang... I will choose free will.

No telling how this season plays out but the games will be competitive no matter who the opponent. LP is certainly in play and getting there by winning 7 of the next 8 games, which is a perfectly reasonable scenario, would likely get us in the dance. So I remain cautiously optimistic. Especially if we get Reno and Melanson back. And it's the 31 year cycle :).

I'm also really looking forward to next season not only because we've got some O coming but also because the best players on the team at present are all sophomores. I believe that Junior year is usually when players reach their college peak. Whether we've got 33 in net or not, a top 4 finish next year has to be the expectation. Given this was not really the case this season, I find all of the premature doom to be rather unflattering. So Flag Dude and Red... take off the doom dress... it makes you look fat.

FlagDUDE08
02-20-2016, 04:29 PM
Traveling in Asia this week and just got a chance to catch up on the board. Seems like more than a few people here have their knickers in such a twist that they risk being gelded. I'm not among them.

Coming into this season I hoped for improvement and clearly we've seen it. And I also think the compete level has been there. The only mysterious part here is why we sit back in the 3rd when leading so much. Maybe it's a strategy (not a great one if so) but I've gotta think we are just a couple of bodies short. Even so, the past 4 losses, which are being called a "meltdown" here, were all against good teams. And 3 of them, we clearly could have won. If this team were in a meltdown, we'd be losing badly to average teams. That is simply not happening.

Today's game should be more telling. I expect a solid win - even after the tough loss yesterday. If that happens then I suggest all of the meltdown talk should stop. The past is not always prologue folks. As a great Canadian once sang... I will choose free will.

No telling how this season plays out but the games will be competitive no matter who the opponent. LP is certainly in play and getting there by winning 7 of the next 8 games, which is a perfectly reasonable scenario, would likely get us in the dance. So I remain cautiously optimistic. Especially if we get Reno and Melanson back. And it's the 31 year cycle :).

I'm also really looking forward to next season not only because we've got some O coming but also because the best players on the team at present are all sophomores. I believe that Junior year is usually when players reach their college peak. Whether we've got 33 in net or not, a top 4 finish next year has to be the expectation. Given this was not really the case this season, I find all of the premature doom to be rather unflattering. So Flag Dude and Red... take off the doom dress... it makes you look fat.

You want people to stop the doom and gloom? We want a reason on the ice. We've lost five of the last seven since the Mayor's Cup. In each of the last five, we were tied or leading going into the third (1-4 in those). That sounds like a meltdown, especially considering the relative "success" seen in prior games in the season. And you don't have to be blown out to call it a meltdown, either. No one asks how, just how many. Should they turn it around in the last couple games of the season, similar to what we've seen in recent years, good on them. And I wouldn't come close to even fathoming the ECAC semis. We're going to have to do two things (mathematically at least one) we have yet to do since I first set foot in Troy as a RPI student: Win a home playoff series, and win a quarterfinal series. Is it mathematically possible? Sure; that's why they play the games. However, in the inspiration of Brian Sullivan's "Brown Rule", I'll believe it when I see it.

It's "put up or shut up" time.

ServinisScores
02-20-2016, 04:49 PM
Great post jmhusker. I'm headed to Asia tomorrow. LGR!

Pappy89
02-20-2016, 05:42 PM
OK, I'm the new guy to posting, but I've been reading the forums for years, and I'm frankly tired of reading a lot of this crap. I don't want to make any enemies here, but I hope it is put up AND shut up time. I want RPI to put up, and for you to shut up. Support the team.


You want people to stop the doom and gloom? We want a reason on the ice. We've lost five of the last seven since the Mayor's Cup. In each of the last five, we were tied or leading going into the third (1-4 in those). That sounds like a meltdown, especially considering the relative "success" seen in prior games in the season. And you don't have to be blown out to call it a meltdown, either. No one asks how, just how many. Should they turn it around in the last couple games of the season, similar to what we've seen in recent years, good on them. And I wouldn't come close to even fathoming the ECAC semis. We're going to have to do two things (mathematically at least one) we have yet to do since I first set foot in Troy as a RPI student: Win a home playoff series, and win a quarterfinal series. Is it mathematically possible? Sure; that's why they play the games. However, in the inspiration of Brian Sullivan's "Brown Rule", I'll believe it when I see it.

It's "put up or shut up" time.

FlagDUDE08
02-20-2016, 06:46 PM
Being critical of the team doesn't mean you don't support them. I'm not going anywhere, unlike some of the fair weather folks. I'm sticking around in good and bad times. Only when we come to terms with our faults, though, will we finally seek to make amends. I'd certainly love for them to put it up. Let the product on the ice speak for itself.

ServinisScores
02-20-2016, 06:50 PM
Being critical of the team doesn't mean you don't support them. I'm not going anywhere, unlike some of the fair weather folks. I'm sticking around in good and bad times. Only when we come to terms with our faults, though, will we finally seek to make amends. I'd certainly love for them to put it up. Let the product on the ice speak for itself.

your posts don't indicate any support of the team or the program.

Pappy89
02-20-2016, 07:08 PM
Begin critical is one thing, but unrelenting negativity is not the sign of support. Plus it is a drain on those of us who enjoy RPI Hockey in both good times and bad. "congrats on 2 easy points this week" is not being critical, and is certainly not something a fan would write, even if they don't honestly believe they will win the game. Many here are critical, and have legitimate points, but they are not presented in such childish ways. I'm sure Seth, the coaching staff, the team and the rest of us here are sorry that you personally have not seen the team win the ECAC or score in the NCAAs. But it is not about you.


Being critical of the team doesn't mean you don't support them. I'm not going anywhere, unlike some of the fair weather folks. I'm sticking around in good and bad times. Only when we come to terms with our faults, though, will we finally seek to make amends. I'd certainly love for them to put it up. Let the product on the ice speak for itself.

FlagDUDE08
02-20-2016, 07:41 PM
Begin critical is one thing, but unrelenting negativity is not the sign of support. Plus it is a drain on those of us who enjoy RPI Hockey in both good times and bad. "congrats on 2 easy points this week" is not being critical, and is certainly not something a fan would write, even if they don't honestly believe they will win the game. Many here are critical, and have legitimate points, but they are not presented in such childish ways. I'm sure Seth, the coaching staff, the team and the rest of us here are sorry that you personally have not seen the team win the ECAC or score in the NCAAs. But it is not about you.

Oh how cute, you think it's about me. If only you knew how wrong you really are. We all want the best for the team. Sometimes you have to fire them up, or ease off the opposition. I speak the truth. Don't like it? You don't have to read it. Can only spend your time complaining about me? Find a better hobby.

Pappy89
02-20-2016, 09:12 PM
Obviously you can't read or understand was is written. I don't think it is about you, but your comments in your posts imply that you do.

Also, supposing that Seth or the team reads your comments, which I seriously doubt, I don't see how your negativity is going to "fire them up". You may speak the truth, but there are better ways to deliver the message.

i have plenty of hobbies, one of which is going to the games, which is why I don't post much. I decided to post tonight because it was just getting too much. BTW, score updates with little smilies as you are bashing our team? Maybe it is you that needs a better hobby.

Your negativity makes you a laughing stock on all the threads on which you you post, and you are an embarrassment to yourself and RPI. As a proud RPI alum and fan, I hate that there are people out there that think you represent RPI.

I'll refrain from future posts regarding you or your posts, as you are correct about one thing. You are not worth my time.

I have a team to support.

LGR !


Oh how cute, you think it's about me. If only you knew how wrong you really are. We all want the best for the team. Sometimes you have to fire them up, or ease off the opposition. I speak the truth. Don't like it? You don't have to read it. Can only spend your time complaining about me? Find a better hobby.

jericho
02-20-2016, 09:12 PM
Pappy, I suggest that you ignore Flaggy, but unlike him, I'm not going to tell what to do. You'll find that your USCHO posting experience will be so much better, and,, he'll make it about him because he takes pride in the amount of people on his ignore list.

Pappy89
02-20-2016, 09:16 PM
Actually, I don't want to ignore Flaggy, as he does have some good insight. He does know the game. I just can't deal with the negativity. It's like Randy Quaid in Major League.
Pappy, I suggest that you ignore Flaggy, but unlike him, I'm not going to tell what to do. You'll find that your USCHO posting experience will be so much better, and,, he'll make it about him because he takes pride in the amount of people on his ignore list.

Go Puckman
02-20-2016, 09:20 PM
Did anybody else see Melanson on crutches too? Must have been some shot he blocked. Congrats to all the seniors tonight.

turk181
02-20-2016, 09:25 PM
Traveling in Asia this week and just got a chance to catch up on the board. Seems like more than a few people here have their knickers in such a twist that they risk being gelded. I'm not among them.

Coming into this season I hoped for improvement and clearly we've seen it. And I also think the compete level has been there. The only mysterious part here is why we sit back in the 3rd when leading so much. Maybe it's a strategy (not a great one if so) but I've gotta think we are just a couple of bodies short. Even so, the past 4 losses, which are being called a "meltdown" here, were all against good teams. And 3 of them, we clearly could have won. If this team were in a meltdown, we'd be losing badly to average teams. That is simply not happening.

Today's game should be more telling. I expect a solid win - even after the tough loss yesterday. If that happens then I suggest all of the meltdown talk should stop. The past is not always prologue folks. As a great Canadian once sang... I will choose free will.

No telling how this season plays out but the games will be competitive no matter who the opponent. LP is certainly in play and getting there by winning 7 of the next 8 games, which is a perfectly reasonable scenario, would likely get us in the dance. So I remain cautiously optimistic. Especially if we get Reno and Melanson back. And it's the 31 year cycle :).

I'm also really looking forward to next season not only because we've got some O coming but also because the best players on the team at present are all sophomores. I believe that Junior year is usually when players reach their college peak. Whether we've got 33 in net or not, a top 4 finish next year has to be the expectation. Given this was not really the case this season, I find all of the premature doom to be rather unflattering. So Flag Dude and Red... take off the doom dress... it makes you look fat.Look for Reno back next week. Donít expect Melanson.

fr. joe
02-20-2016, 09:41 PM
Look for Reno back next week. Don’t expect Melanson.

Welcome Pappy! Hope you enjoy the RPI threads. It's a pretty savvy bunch who enjoy Cherry & White.

Turk, thanks for news on Reno. Getting skaters back is good news for the RS last weekend. Hope Melanson is back soon for the playoffs.

And wouldn't you know, the story of #3-9 in the ECAC will hinge on Harvard/Dartmouth visiting the North Country as RPI/ Union visits Central NY.

DavidSec17
02-20-2016, 09:43 PM
Did anybody else see Melanson on crutches too? Must have been some shot he blocked. Congrats to all the seniors tonight.

I did. All the more reason to hopefully sneak into 4th place and get an extra week off.

DeepRed72
02-20-2016, 09:52 PM
Oh how cute, you think it's about me. If only you knew how wrong you really are. We all want the best for the team. Sometimes you have to fire them up, or ease off the opposition. I speak the truth. Don't like it? You don't have to read it. Can only spend your time complaining about me? Find a better hobby.

There are many in here that don't like it when the messenger brings the bad news to the King. I tried to provide some realistic estimates of chances for this team and am I criticized as being negative and not a team supporter? I have been following Rensselaer hockey since my Freshman year, 1968, so don't tell me that I am not a die-hard supporter. Politicians who don't like polling numbers also brush them off but accept them readily when they show them leading. It happens in all pursuits. Hey these are only numbers and instead of criticizing those who try to enlighten, you critics should address your attention to the reasons for those mediocre results at best so that improvements can be made. I would just like to close by pointing out to some that the title of the thread is "We want more banners . . ." That doesn't mean incremental improvement - perhaps those who are satisfied with just that are on the wrong thread.

jericho
02-20-2016, 09:53 PM
Look for Reno back next week. Donít expect Melanson.

turk, should have brought your headphones tonight, Seth and I went over this in my pregame interview. :)

jstadts
02-20-2016, 10:20 PM
IMO this years club is one of the most likable RPI squad in many years.They don`t fold easy and I never got the feeling I wanted them to win more than they wanted to win.