ASU Hockey

[davyd83]

Now this is interesting. Can 3 teams in the same barn work??

http://arizonasports.com/story/62929...n-next-season/

Who would the 3 teams be? Tuscon is a long way from Phoenix.

[Jesus of Suburbia]

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Who would the 3 teams be? Tuscon is a long way from Phoenix.

In a different article it mentions NBA, NHL, and ASU sharing one arena
http://arizonasports.com/story/61044...ley-officials/

[Patman]

In a different article it mentions NBA, NHL, and ASU sharing one arena
http://arizonasports.com/story/61044...ley-officials/

3rd wheel to the extreme

[blackswampboy]

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In a different article it mentions NBA, NHL, and ASU sharing one arena
http://arizonasports.com/story/61044...ley-officials/

with ASU games scheduled for 2:30PM on Tuesdays.

on-campus arena, accept no substitutes.

[Middle Street]

with ASU games scheduled for 2:30PM on Tuesdays.

on-campus arena, accept no substitutes.

I'm not sure how that could even work. Teams are not going to travel to play a single game against ASU. I don't see midweek games even being an option for them. I agree with you. An arena ASU has full control over is a must.

[aparch]

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Really? Friday night Coyotes, Saturday afternoon Suns, Saturday Night ASU, Sunday midday ASU schedules are hard to figure out? NBA rarely do back to back home games, same with the NHL. So we're looking at 18 dates. Nine weekends.

Using the Bulls/Blackhawks United Center schedule as a template, Let's fit in 18 home games for ASU. For this example the Blackhawks will represent the Coyotes, Bulls the Suns.

NCAA season started on the 3rd. Let's ignore any exhibition games, as ASU could play them at Oceanside.
October 9th 7 PM (no other events), 10th 2 PM (before the Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 23rd 7 PM (no other events), 24th 2 PM (before Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 30th 7 PM, October 31st 7 PM (Fri/Sat)
November 14 7 PM, November 15 2 PM (Sat/Sun)
December 3th 7 PM, December 4 7 PM (Thur/Fri)
January 9th 7 PM, January 10th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
January 16th 7 PM, January 17th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
February 12th 7 PM, February 13th 2PM (Before Coyotes 7:30 PM game) (Fri/Sat) (or, mid-afternoon Sunday date available)
February 20th 7 PM, February 21st Noon (Before Suns 7 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
March 3rd 7 PM, March 4th 7 PM (Thur/Fri)

In fact, I squeezed in 20 home games. So drop one weekend, and you got an ASU/Suns/Coyotes schedule. Saturday afternoon games gets road teams out of town a little quicker. First round weekend would need to be left open just in case, but for the most part, it's not terrible.

[davyd83]

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Really? Friday night Coyotes, Saturday afternoon Suns, Saturday Night ASU, Sunday midday ASU schedules are hard to figure out? NBA rarely do back to back home games, same with the NHL. So we're looking at 18 dates. Nine weekends.

Using the Bulls/Blackhawks United Center schedule as a template, Let's fit in 18 home games for ASU. For this example the Blackhawks will represent the Coyotes, Bulls the Suns.

NCAA season started on the 3rd. Let's ignore any exhibition games, as ASU could play them at Oceanside.
October 9th 7 PM (no other events), 10th 2 PM (before the Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 23rd 7 PM (no other events), 24th 2 PM (before Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 30th 7 PM, October 31st 7 PM (Fri/Sat)
November 14 7 PM, November 15 2 PM (Sat/Sun)
December 3th 7 PM, December 4 7 PM (Thur/Fri)
January 9th 7 PM, January 10th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
January 16th 7 PM, January 17th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
February 12th 7 PM, February 13th 2PM (Before Coyotes 7:30 PM game) (Fri/Sat) (or, mid-afternoon Sunday date available)
February 20th 7 PM, February 21st Noon (Before Suns 7 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
March 3rd 7 PM, March 4th 7 PM (Thur/Fri)

In fact, I squeezed in 20 home games. So drop one weekend, and you got an ASU/Suns/Coyotes schedule. Saturday afternoon games gets road teams out of town a little quicker. First round weekend would need to be left open just in case, but for the most part, it's not terrible.

Don't expect the NBA or NHL to want to deal with a third primary tenant. And the point is moot anyway since the Suns lease runs through 2029.

[blackswampboy]

Re: ASU Hockey

Really? Friday night Coyotes, Saturday afternoon Suns, Saturday Night ASU, Sunday midday ASU schedules are hard to figure out? NBA rarely do back to back home games, same with the NHL. So we're looking at 18 dates. Nine weekends.

Using the Bulls/Blackhawks United Center schedule as a template, Let's fit in 18 home games for ASU. For this example the Blackhawks will represent the Coyotes, Bulls the Suns.

NCAA season started on the 3rd. Let's ignore any exhibition games, as ASU could play them at Oceanside.
October 9th 7 PM (no other events), 10th 2 PM (before the Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 23rd 7 PM (no other events), 24th 2 PM (before Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 30th 7 PM, October 31st 7 PM (Fri/Sat)
November 14 7 PM, November 15 2 PM (Sat/Sun)
December 3th 7 PM, December 4 7 PM (Thur/Fri)
January 9th 7 PM, January 10th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
January 16th 7 PM, January 17th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
February 12th 7 PM, February 13th 2PM (Before Coyotes 7:30 PM game) (Fri/Sat) (or, mid-afternoon Sunday date available)
February 20th 7 PM, February 21st Noon (Before Suns 7 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
March 3rd 7 PM, March 4th 7 PM (Thur/Fri)

In fact, I squeezed in 20 home games. So drop one weekend, and you got an ASU/Suns/Coyotes schedule. Saturday afternoon games gets road teams out of town a little quicker. First round weekend would need to be left open just in case, but for the most part, it's not terrible.

OK, so I exaggerated about playing on Tuesday afternoons. slightly. but your schedule makes the point well enough.
you've got 2PM, 2PM, 2PM, Thursday, Noon, Noon, 2PM, Noon, Thursday. In a way-too-big arena that will be 2/3 empty on a good night. yuck. Noon on Sundays, really?
sure hope they don't have to settle for that.

[davyd83]

Really? Friday night Coyotes, Saturday afternoon Suns, Saturday Night ASU, Sunday midday ASU schedules are hard to figure out? NBA rarely do back to back home games, same with the NHL. So we're looking at 18 dates. Nine weekends.

Using the Bulls/Blackhawks United Center schedule as a template, Let's fit in 18 home games for ASU. For this example the Blackhawks will represent the Coyotes, Bulls the Suns.

NCAA season started on the 3rd. Let's ignore any exhibition games, as ASU could play them at Oceanside.
October 9th 7 PM (no other events), 10th 2 PM (before the Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 23rd 7 PM (no other events), 24th 2 PM (before Coyotes 7:30 PM game). (Fri/Sat)
October 30th 7 PM, October 31st 7 PM (Fri/Sat)
November 14 7 PM, November 15 2 PM (Sat/Sun)
December 3th 7 PM, December 4 7 PM (Thur/Fri)
January 9th 7 PM, January 10th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
January 16th 7 PM, January 17th Noon (Before Coyotes 6 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
February 12th 7 PM, February 13th 2PM (Before Coyotes 7:30 PM game) (Fri/Sat) (or, mid-afternoon Sunday date available)
February 20th 7 PM, February 21st Noon (Before Suns 7 PM game) (Sat/Sun)
March 3rd 7 PM, March 4th 7 PM (Thur/Fri)

In fact, I squeezed in 20 home games. So drop one weekend, and you got an ASU/Suns/Coyotes schedule. Saturday afternoon games gets road teams out of town a little quicker. First round weekend would need to be left open just in case, but for the most part, it's not terrible.

If ASU were to play at noon before a Coyotes game, are you asking for the NHL teams to move their morning skate up 2 hours? Do NBA teams get no shoot around? Any NHL or NBA lease will have stipulations about game day accommodations for the home and visiting teams. Being that NBA & NHL schedules don't come out until summer, and that those teams & leagues would have priority, it would make piecing the ASU schedule far in advance very difficult, especially when you consider nearly all NCAA teams to make a hockey visit have flight & hotel arrangements to make.

[SunDevilBob]

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The Calgary Flames released an interesting video that shows a way to make a large arena feel smaller for whatever purpose. If ASU does end up in an arena with the Coyotes, I would imagine it would have similar capabilities.

[Shirtless Guy]

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The Calgary Flames released an interesting video that shows a way to make a large arena feel smaller for whatever purpose. If ASU does end up in an arena with the Coyotes, I would imagine it would have similar capabilities.

The biggest problem I see with that is the placement of the media...if you tried to do something like that at the X or in Glendale, you have a weird ceiling setup or you block the media area from seeing the ice.

[SunDevilBob]

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The biggest problem I see with that is the placement of the media...if you tried to do something like that at the X or in Glendale, you have a weird ceiling setup or you block the media area from seeing the ice.

Assuming a new, purpose-built arena with this as an explicit part of the design, which I believe this concept would require and is the plan anyway, I would imagine a work around be involved in the design.

[Shirtless Guy]

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Assuming a new, purpose-built arena with this as an explicit part of the design, which I believe this concept would require and is the plan anyway, I would imagine a work around be involved in the design.

It would make sense...be interesting to see, too bad we can only watch the one little vine instead of the whole video...all the discovery links are dead.

[davyd83]

Assuming a new, purpose-built arena with this as an explicit part of the design, which I believe this concept would require and is the plan anyway, I would imagine a work around be involved in the design.

At Ohio State, the arena was built for BBall and hockey. The press box is center ice attached to the roof. They do curtain off part of the upper level, but, from my experience, there is no issue with the sight lines for any of the media.

[JohnsonsJerseys]

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OK, so I exaggerated about playing on Tuesday afternoons. slightly. but your schedule makes the point well enough.
you've got 2PM, 2PM, 2PM, Thursday, Noon, Noon, 2PM, Noon, Thursday. In a way-too-big arena that will be 2/3 empty on a good night. yuck. Noon on Sundays, really?
sure hope they don't have to settle for that.

Weekday games work in some leagues like Hockey East because the teams are an hour apart. Weekday games are not going to work at ASU because nobody is going to be taking a bus to ASU from an hour away.
Ryan J