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truthbetold
12-25-2015, 04:20 PM
Neither of ZedLeppelin's last posts makes any sense. First, any coach that gives away all of their scholarships in the first year, clearly doesn't know what they are doing. The men's coach did it right, giving out a few the first year , but playing out the club players and then building a little each year. The net result is that they are eyeing up a run at the national tournament. The women's coach had to cut a bunch of players and hope they would transfer so he could get their scholarships back. Only problem was, a lot of them stayed for a great education. Funny thing is, the women's record probably would have been the same the first year with the club players still on the roster. Maybe he was trying to cut HIS ties to club hockey, where he was mediocre at best.

Second, how do you coach to win a conference tournament when you can't beat those teams in the regular season? Explain what that looks like. And why would you? The bloggers are trying to get you to read their column, not provide a legitimate analysis. Maybe the focus should have been on player and team development from the beginning, instead of trying to cut your way to a win and/or try to roll the dice on a tournament championship that is clearly out of reach at this point. Any good coach would focus on player and team development and the wins will come. All the cutting and his treatment of players has had far reaching effects, and there are some parents here in Canada that won't even let their kids talk to PSU.

If they started his contract in that first year and he was there while it was still club (which seems likely), this is his fifth year. I doubt any team would give a contract longer than 5 years to a first year coach. And five years should be enough time to build a tournament team on the women's side, especially given the facilities and resources the PSU team has, which are essentially unrivaled at any women's program in the country. If the men's coach can do this in an even harder environment, why haven't the women? Renewing his contract at this point would definitely send the wrong message to other coaches at PSU if they are expecting their coaches to win.

ZedLeppelin
12-27-2015, 08:37 AM
Neither of ZedLeppelin's last posts makes any sense. First, any coach that gives away all of their scholarships in the first year, clearly doesn't know what they are doing.

I don't have the first clue about how scholarships work - I've never been a hockey parent. All I have is what things look like from the stands.


If they started his contract in that first year and he was there while it was still club (which seems likely), this is his fifth year. I doubt any team would give a contract longer than 5 years to a first year coach.

Yes, he did coach the final year of club hockey at Penn State.


Second, how do you coach to win a conference tournament when you can't beat those teams in the regular season? Explain what that looks like.

Beats me - that just looks like what he's doing. I can't think of any other reason why a coach would spend the regular season shuffling players around, instead of letting them build some chemistry on their lines. RIT struggles through the regular season, too, and always manages to shine at tournament time, for some reason. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that it looks like what he's doing.


Maybe the focus should have been on player and team development from the beginning, instead of trying to cut your way to a win and/or try to roll the dice on a tournament championship that is clearly out of reach at this point. Any good coach would focus on player and team development and the wins will come. All the cutting and his treatment of players has had far reaching effects, and there are some parents here in Canada that won't even let their kids talk to PSU.

I agree completely on what the coaching philosophy should have been all along. As for how he treats his players, I wouldn't know.


And five years should be enough time to build a tournament team on the women's side, especially given the facilities and resources the PSU team has, which are essentially unrivaled at any women's program in the country.

Five years should be enough time to build a conference tournament team, I agree, especially in the CHA. Why he can't entice some top-tier players to come to Penn State, given its facilities/resources/educational opportunities, has been surprising.


If the men's coach can do this in an even harder environment, why haven't the women?

That's the million dollar question, and probably being asked by the Penn State admin by now. I don't know what Brandwene's coaching philosophy is, I don't know how he recruits, I don't know how he treats his players, and I don't know anything about scholarships - all I know is what games look like from a seat in the stands.

ARM
12-27-2015, 11:03 AM
Second, how do you coach to win a conference tournament when you can't beat those teams in the regular season? Explain what that looks like.

RIT struggles through the regular season, too, and always manages to shine at tournament time, for some reason. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying that it looks like what he's doing.Last season RIT lost all four games to Mercyhurst, never coming closer than three goals. In the tournament, the Tigers won by three over the Lakers. I doubt it is something we are likely to see again any time soon, but it is definitely possible.

Call It
12-31-2015, 07:17 AM
This is a pretty serious claim.

This accusation is from an anonymous person named drdangles. That name would suggest a 4th or 5th line bender with an ax to grind.

ZedLeppelin
12-31-2015, 07:55 AM
This is a pretty serious claim.

This "drdangles" sounds like the frustrated parent of a player who never dresses for games. "To my knowledge, nothing has actually happened yet so there's nothing we can do about it". Except to air it on a public forum like USCHO, right?

KTDC
12-31-2015, 12:07 PM
We owe someone a 'thank you' for taking out the garbage.

Happy New Year

ZedLeppelin
01-13-2016, 08:21 AM
If this is the last year of Brandwene's contract (and that's likely, being his fifth year), and Penn State decides not to renew, who might be available?

Rightnut
01-13-2016, 10:51 AM
If this is the last year of Brandwene's contract (and that's likely, being his fifth year), and Penn State decides not to renew, who might be available?

I would think this would be a highly attractive position that a successful coach at another smaller program would be interested in. Great facilities, great support, campus atmosphere, school sells itself, future B1G team probably at some point. Not much downside. I would think there would be a big pool of candidates and probably some surprising lateral names.

HockeyEast33
01-13-2016, 02:19 PM
I would think this would be a highly attractive position that a successful coach at another smaller program would be interested in. Great facilities, great support, campus atmosphere, school sells itself, future B1G team probably at some point. Not much downside. I would think there would be a big pool of candidates and probably some surprising lateral names.

You would think Sisto from Mercyhurst would be all in on this one since he applied to Ohio State last year.

ZedLeppelin
01-15-2016, 08:24 PM
Penn State gets shut out by last-place RIT, 3-0. They couldn't score on a 5 on 5, 5 on 4, 5 on 3, and couldn't score on a 6 on 4. Penn State owned the first period, and then played the rest of the game like that was good enough for a night. Hard to believe this is the same team that beat Boston University at the start of the season, but Brandwene will be proud of "their resilience and sticking to the game plan" (whatever it was).