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hockeykrazy
11-30-2015, 10:52 PM
"We have a losing record when outshooting the opponent and are undefeated when being outshot. "

Is there any correlation on who scores first? Chris Dilks also said Omaha is the worst team to watch when they get ahead- boring trap.


Basically calling it unwatchable garbage...
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/wcha/2015/10/10/9494719/minnesota-state-omaha-recap-weninger-randolph

It's safe to say it is a lot harder to play that style (stacking 4 at the blue line) on an Olympic sheet of ice, 15 feet wider.
Maybe Blais can recruit a few more 6'8" guys.

From what I remember Blais also has a set play he runs a couple times a game where a guy off the bench goes Cherry Picking/ Suck hole(deep behind the D) for a long stretch pass and a one on none( designed for an Ortega or Guentzel player with speed). We got burned by it against QU earlier this year. Coaches use it when they see the other team start taking chances and activating their D in the offense to try and tie it up.
So yeah, throw out Corsi and look at prime scoring chances. The Wild lived on it with Lemair.

Dirty Bottles
12-01-2015, 07:45 AM
We find out whether we are "frauds" or not this weekend. There is enough to look at to be concerned.

UNO, despite being 11-2-1, has been outshot 466-392 so far this season. That gives UNO a Corsi number of 45.7%. Ugh.

Not sure what to make of UNO this year either. Should make for an interesting series though. The one thing I really like about this SCSU team is their balance. We have the #3 offense in the nation but don't have a single player in the top 10 in scoring.

The Exiled One
12-01-2015, 09:08 AM
Not sure what to make of UNO this year either. Should make for an interesting series though. The one thing I really like about this SCSU team is their balance. We have the #3 offense in the nation but don't have a single player in the top 10 in scoring.
They have an NCAA leading 13 players averaging 0.5 PPG or more.

SJHovey
12-01-2015, 09:24 AM
It'll be an interesting series from a special teams perspective. SCSU sucks on the penalty kill, but UNO sucks worse on the power play, so any man advantage situations for UNO will likely look like the intermission mites game. On the other hand SCSU is deadly on the power play, while UNO has been very good shorthanded, giving up only 7 or 8 power play goals all year, but scoring 5 shorthanded goals of their own.

Tipsy McStagger
12-01-2015, 12:33 PM
It'll be an interesting series from a special teams perspective. SCSU sucks on the penalty kill, but UNO sucks worse on the power play, so any man advantage situations for UNO will likely look like the intermission mites game. On the other hand SCSU is deadly on the power play, while UNO has been very good shorthanded, giving up only 7 or 8 power play goals all year, but scoring 5 shorthanded goals of their own.
Well, SCSU may suck on the PK but we have only been on the PK 36 times compared to 59 for UNO. We are probably going to be shorthanded a lot less than UNO will.

Red Cows
12-04-2015, 12:41 AM
All I want is some/any points this weekend for UNO. I care about maintaining our Pairwise ranking. I don't really give two sh*ts about the conference race. I care about being in the hunt for NCAA championships. And, Pairwise is the easiest ticket to that, particularly because of the conference we play in. Kick butts out of conference (UNO is 8-0-0, currently) and play .500 or better in conference and you are in. Simple formula. If we make the tourney nearly every year and never win a conference championship that's a good trade as far as I am concerned.

Nice to see that our head coach thinks its an unfair advantage for teams that play on Olympic ice. Nothing like planting that seed in your team's head right before playing in just such a rink. Maybe he's trying reverse psychology?

Dude Love
12-04-2015, 02:22 AM
Excited to have a 3 day weekend so I can at least watch on Friday and possibly Saturday too.

SCSU Euro
12-04-2015, 08:20 AM
All I want is some/any points this weekend for UNO. I care about maintaining our Pairwise ranking. I don't really give two sh*ts about the conference race. I care about being in the hunt for NCAA championships. And, Pairwise is the easiest ticket to that, particularly because of the conference we play in. Kick butts out of conference (UNO is 8-0-0, currently) and play .500 or better in conference and you are in. Simple formula. If we make the tourney nearly every year and never win a conference championship that's a good trade as far as I am concerned.

Nice to see that our head coach thinks its an unfair advantage for teams that play on Olympic ice. Nothing like planting that seed in your team's head right before playing in just such a rink. Maybe he's trying reverse psychology?

Olympic Ice, which both teams have to deal with, is an unfair advantage, but setting up your rink so the penalty box is next to the home team's bench and away teams have to wait for a whistle to get to/from the locker room isn't. D'ohkay...

hockeykrazy
12-04-2015, 09:06 AM
It works both ways. We are at a disadvantage when we play other teams on the NHL sized rinks because we practice on Olympic size most of the time, both rinks are Olympic.

SCSU goes over to the MAC (Municipal Athletic Complex) in preparation for road NHL size games, probably only one or two practices in advance the week of.

I think there are plans to change the practice rink back down to a NHL size so they don't have to do that in the future with the next upgrade.

Western Michigan's success looks like it was predicated on getting the first goal on UNO. The only team all year to do it against them.

In all six games SCSU and UNO played last year the team that scored the first goal won the game.

gomavs#1
12-04-2015, 11:46 AM
Chris Dilks also said Omaha is the worst team to watch when they get ahead- boring trap.


Basically calling it unwatchable garbage...

At 11-2....I don't mind being unwatchable.

Red Cows
12-04-2015, 03:21 PM
Olympic Ice, which both teams have to deal with, is an unfair advantage, but setting up your rink so the penalty box is next to the home team's bench and away teams have to wait for a whistle to get to/from the locker room isn't. D'ohkay...

Hey, I didn't design the arena. As Romey says, "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" and this isn't even cheating. It is completely legal. I even posted the applicable NCAA rink design rules/standards from the NCAA's own web site in the UNO arena thread that underscored this.

Where is the boundary line between doing anything and everything that is allowed under the existing rules to exploit inherent advantages in doing so, and, "sportsmanship"? If the rules allow it, a lot of "somebodies" didn't think it was an unfair advantage. What is unsportsmanlike or unfair about following the existing rules, I ask you?

By the way, I readily concede that arguments either way here have merit. And, I'm not necessarily an advocate here either way. But, the rules, as they currently exist, were followed.

St. Clown
12-04-2015, 03:56 PM
Hey, I didn't design the arena. As Romey says, "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" and this isn't even cheating. It is completely legal. I even posted the applicable NCAA rink design rules/standards from the NCAA's own web site in the UNO arena thread that underscored this.

Where is the boundary line between doing anything and everything that is allowed under the existing rules to exploit inherent advantages in doing so, and, "sportsmanship"? If the rules allow it, a lot of "somebodies" didn't think it was an unfair advantage. What is unsportsmanlike or unfair about following the existing rules, I ask you?

By the way, I readily concede that arguments either way here have merit. And, I'm not necessarily an advocate here either way. But, the rules, as they currently exist, were followed.

There was a Gopher-Bulldog game a few years back, I was watching on TV and the color guy (forget if it was Woog or post-Woog era) called out that UMD was sneaking guys out of the penalty box early and should be getting penalized for too many men on the ice. The old DECC had that same setup, with the visitors box on the opposite side of the ice from the home and penalty boxes. Eventually, at least one on-ice official caught them at this game and penalized them for it. The bulldogs were cheating, they were caught, and they paid the price.

Husckey Domi Nation
12-04-2015, 04:21 PM
Now that Seeler plays for the goofers, are there any chippy/dirty players remaining on or new to the Omaha roster that St. Cloud has to look out for tonight?

St. Clown
12-04-2015, 04:23 PM
Now that Seeler plays for the goofers, are there any chippy/dirty players remaining on or new to the Omaha roster that St. Cloud has to look out for tonight?

One guy, his name's Dean Blais.

St. Clown
12-04-2015, 04:53 PM
It works both ways. We are at a disadvantage when we play other teams on the NHL sized rinks because we practice on Olympic size most of the time, both rinks are Olympic.

SCSU goes over to the MAC (Municipal Athletic Complex) in preparation for road NHL size games, probably only one or two practices in advance the week of.
Forgot to mention, but this reminds me of a line from Craig Dahl back in the day. When playing an away game against an opponent with a 200x85 rink, he would move the team from the main rink in the NHC to the practice rink because "it feels smaller than the main rink."

Oh, the Dahlie Llama was always good for something entertaining to come out of his mouth. :)

Tipsy McStagger
12-04-2015, 07:27 PM
All I want is some/any points this weekend for UNO. I care about maintaining our Pairwise ranking. I don't really give two sh*ts about the conference race. I care about being in the hunt for NCAA championships. And, Pairwise is the easiest ticket to that, particularly because of the conference we play in. Kick butts out of conference (UNO is 8-0-0, currently) and play .500 or better in conference and you are in. Simple formula. If we make the tourney nearly every year and never win a conference championship that's a good trade as far as I am concerned.
If you aren't in the hunt for the conference race, you are probably gonna be on the bubble sweating it out the last weekend of the season. The NCHC got lucky to get 6 teams in last year. If a couple upsets happen in the conference tournaments, ECAC and Hockey East have been great out of conference this season, say ECAC gets 3 or 4 teams in, HE gets 4 or 5, Big Ten gets 1 or 2, Atlantic Hockey gets 1, WCHA gets 1 or 2 you are down to 4 teams getting in from the NCHC.

RL3AO
12-04-2015, 09:06 PM
I could watch 4 of these games. Good hockey.

Red Cows
12-04-2015, 09:26 PM
What on Earth Kirk Thompson is doing in goal tonight for UNO, I have no idea.

Tipsy McStagger
12-04-2015, 09:49 PM
What on Earth Kirk Thompson is doing in goal tonight for UNO, I have no idea.

Getting hung out to dry by your sleepwalking d-men.

Husckey Domi Nation
12-04-2015, 10:03 PM
One guy, his name's Dean Blais.

Funny response, but I disagree. Sounds like it became a pretty chippy game as it progressed. Peterson knocked out by Maverick who got away with cheap shot.

St. Cloud has to stop ringing the pipes around Omaha's goalie and bury this team tomorrow night.

Think I'll take my wife to the game tomorrow at the Herb Brooks Center.