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chickod
10-28-2015, 07:26 AM
Listed at 5,225. Don't be fooled, the lower bowl there only holds 5,500 or so and there weren't more than a handful in the uppers. There weren't much more than 4,000 in attendance tonight. UConn's been fudging their attendance numbers like crazy since joining HE.

It was a rough estimate based on assuming about 300 seats per section multiplying by about 20 sections. You obviously know the arena much better than I (the last time I was there was for an America East basketball game which had to be 15 years ago, if not more). My point was simply that, being a big state school, it's only the tip of the iceberg. 4,000 on a Tuesday night is as good as we have done at BU (in general - Sean, you don't have to go back to try to prove me wrong - I'm sure "occasionally" we may have had more but certainly not as a rule). So it's only going to get better. I was very impressed with the support.

mookie1995
10-28-2015, 08:48 AM
Mass Pike to 84 to the 684 to the saw mill pwky to the HH pwky . Thats how to get to NYC to avoid traffic and get to Nardelli's to mangia. What's a mattah fa you?

Mookie was saying that one can only find nardelli's south and west of Hartford :(
So if Mookie for some reason is drivin from mass to Hartford Mookie is SOL :mad:

Nick Papagiorgio
10-28-2015, 08:52 AM
Ugh... fluke losses to bad teams suck.

If it makes you feel any better, we lost to Uconn last year. It happens with young teams (and teams that don't recruit for two years)

chickod
10-28-2015, 09:07 AM
If it makes you feel any better, we lost to Uconn last year. It happens with young teams (and teams that don't recruit for two years)

Funny you say that...the big "highlight" on the jumbotron before the introductions last night was the last ten seconds of UConn's win over BC with the announcer screaming "And the Huskies get their first ever Hockey East win!!!!!!" When you're a young program, you don't have a lot of highlights to show... :)

Scarlet
10-28-2015, 09:21 AM
The announcer also referred to BU as BC - was it announcing shots on goal or maybe a penalty?

chickod
10-28-2015, 09:38 AM
The announcer also referred to BU as BC - was it announcing shots on goal or maybe a penalty?

Yes! It was during the announcement of the double minor...absolutely unbelievable!!! I was actually in the concourse attempting to find the popcorn (there is only ONE stand in the entire building that sold popcorn) and heard it as plain as day. I'm thinking, "OK...it's one thing if we're playing like Fresno State or something, but UConn???? Jeez..."

chickod
10-28-2015, 09:41 AM
And by the way, was that goal horn LOUD or what? Hysterical to see the old Whalers division championship and retired numbers banners still hanging from the rafters (along with the "Hockey's First Family" Howe banners)

chickod
10-28-2015, 09:50 AM
While I'm on a roll, did anyone notice that the "posts" counter seems to have stopped incrementing? I just added four posts and am at the same number I was when I started...

chickod
10-28-2015, 09:51 AM
And, of course, the second I pressed "Save" and it appeared, it seems to be working again...

BU Fan 84
10-28-2015, 10:39 AM
Ugh... fluke losses to bad teams suck.

If it makes you feel any better, we lost to Uconn last year. It happens with young teams (and teams that don't recruit for two years)

I don't think it was a fluke loss. BU has not been good this year. Especially in our own zone. We weren't great in there last year, but still were significantly better than this. With so many returning players, I don't understand why our D is so bad.

Hokydad
10-28-2015, 10:59 AM
I don't think it was a fluke loss. BU has not been good this year. Especially in our own zone. We weren't great in there last year, but still were significantly better than this. With so many returning players, I don't understand why our D is so bad.



BU is not a good team, period
All Eichel last year
Back to barely above where they were before he came
I don't see PC collapsing because the supposed @team/Gillies" left. Gillies was amazing but Leaman has built a program and a team/culture
BU coddled a player for one year. But hey, both teams got to raise banners!!

chickod
10-28-2015, 11:03 AM
I don't think it was a fluke loss. BU has not been good this year. Especially in our own zone. We weren't great in there last year, but still were significantly better than this.

Agreed. I got distracted and forgot to respond to that comment. That was my whole point when I was describing the potential of the UConn program. If anyone considers this a "fluke," they had better be prepared for many more "flukes" down the road. As I mentioned previously, BU had several horrendous giveaways in their own end. And hence the mention of them playing a "25 minute" game. Last year their talent bailed them out. That won't be the case this year. But, it's understandable that when one looks at the schedule, they may still "underestimate" UConn because they have only been in the league for a year. So it's still too early to say if BU was overconfident (even though they shouldn't have been after entering the 3rd period tied 1-1 just three days before) or not, but this has been, in general, an issue that has plagued the Terriers. Even when they had top level talent they have had trouble really putting teams away. They need to start realizing that the name of the front of the sweater doesn't mean they can just show up and win.


With so many returning players, I don't understand why our D is so bad.

Specifically in regard to the D, you could say that Grzzzz being out disrupted the unit. That's legitimate. Let's see what happens going forward. My personal opinion is that, although there are a lot of freshmen, they may not have yet assimilated to the point where they will be later in the season. It's too early to panic. But it's a tough league and you have to bring it every night. This may require a change in the BU mindset. We are used to getting "up" for three or four "big" opponents and then coasting through the weaker "half" of the league. If you watched the introductions last night and saw where some of these UConn players are from (specifically I can remember, off the top of my head, Moscow, Texas, British Columbia, Finland), you realize that the talent pool is so much deeper than in the past. BU and BC aren't the only schools getting this talent anymore.

BU Fan 84
10-28-2015, 11:05 AM
BU is not a good team, period
All Eichel last year
Back to barely above where they were before he came
I don't see PC collapsing because the supposed @team/Gillies" left. Gillies was amazing but Leaman has built a program and a team/culture
BU coddled a player for one year. But hey, both teams got to raise banners!!

I know you don't know much about hockey, but Eichel had little to do with our D last year, and it was still markedly better than this year's.

Furthermore, why do you keep posting in BU threads? We know Providence won the national championship last year. We were there. That's great for them. It just seems odd that you're so into the team, considering your son wasn't good enough to play in a game. But whatever floats your boat.

BU Fan 84
10-28-2015, 11:13 AM
Agreed. I got distracted and forgot to respond to that comment. That was my whole point when I was describing the potential of the UConn program. If anyone considers this a "fluke," they had better be prepared for many more "flukes" down the road. As I mentioned previously, BU had several horrendous giveaways in their own end. And hence the mention of them playing a "25 minute" game. Last year their talent bailed them out. That won't be the case this year. But, it's understandable that when one looks at the schedule, they may still "underestimate" UConn because they have only been in the league for a year. So it's still too early to say if BU was overconfident (even though they shouldn't have been after entering the 3rd period tied 1-1 just three days before) or not, but this has been, in general, an issue that has plagued the Terriers. Even when they had top level talent they have had trouble really putting teams away. They need to start realizing that the name of the front of the sweater doesn't mean they can just show up and win.



Specifically in regard to the D, you could say that Grzzzz being out disrupted the unit. That's legitimate. Let's see what happens going forward. My personal opinion is that, although there are a lot of freshmen, they may not have yet assimilated to the point where they will be later in the season. It's too early to panic. But it's a tough league and you have to bring it every night. This may require a change in the BU mindset. We are used to getting "up" for three or four "big" opponents and then coasting through the weaker "half" of the league. If you watched the introductions last night and saw where some of these UConn players are from (specifically I can remember, off the top of my head, Moscow, Texas, British Columbia, Finland), you realize that the talent pool is so much deeper than in the past. BU and BC aren't the only schools getting this talent anymore.

I don't think it's an issue of not getting up or taking them seriously. It isn't a lack of skill or talent, either. I think the team is just not good in the defensive zone. Sure, having the captain out may contribute a little bit to the issue but there are five other guys that played all of last season and did a better job than they are now. After the loss to Union, Quinn said it was bad d-zone coverage but luckily it is something that is easily correctable. Here we are a couple weeks later and it has gotten worse.

I remember one year, maybe five years ago, Parker said he introduced a new d-zone system and it would take the team awhile to get used to it. I haven't read Quinn's comments after last night yet, but I am interested to hear what he has to say about it.

brassbonanza
10-28-2015, 11:17 AM
I don't think it was a fluke loss. BU has not been good this year. Especially in our own zone. We weren't great in there last year, but still were significantly better than this. With so many returning players, I don't understand why our D is so bad.

I agree it wasn't a fluke, they're having trouble finding their identity. This isn't the scoring juggernaut that last year's team was. Lines need to be shifted, there are guys together who don't mesh, particularly at the top. Danny and Ahti need a distributor on their line, and don't have one now. It'd be interesting to see JFK on that line, but that would be bunching two C's on the same line. Of course not having Grzelcyk hurts the overall D performance markedly, but McAvoy has shown to be prone to mishaps in his own zone, Switzer looked totally lost at times last night, and even Hickey has been making some poor decisions. Ironically, the most productive line, within the context of what they're expected to do, has been the fourth line. They've played excellent all season.

chickod
10-28-2015, 11:20 AM
I don't think it's an issue of not getting up or taking them seriously. It isn't a lack of skill or talent, either. I think the team is just not good in the defensive zone...

I agree. But I'm a wee bit concerned that the "Eichel" effect will percolate down. In other words, is the "skill" really as good as we think it is, or is it just that Eichel was able to 1) draw attention to himself to allow others guys more time and space and 2) set other guys up to score where now they have to "create" their own opportunities? Oksanen missed from point blank last night (not to pick on him, but I remember it clearly because it was right in front of me). I know the "shot clock" said we outshot them by a wide margin, but did it really feel that way to you? It didn't to me. I didn't think we had a lot of great opportunities, to be honest. Hence my comment from last night that I wonder where the goals are going to come from. So defensive deficiencies are magnified when you don't have the scoring to offset (mask) them.

Scarlet
10-28-2015, 11:26 AM
I agree. But I'm a wee bit concerned that the "Eichel" effect will percolate down. In other words, is the "skill" really as good as we think it is, or is it just that Eichel was able to 1) draw attention to himself to allow others guys more time and space and 2) set other guys up to score where now they have to "create" their own opportunities? Oksanen missed from point blank last night (not to pick on him, but I remember it clearly because it was right in front of me). I know the "shot clock" said we outshot them by a wide margin, but did it really feel that way to you? It didn't to me. I didn't think we had a lot of great opportunities, to be honest. Hence my comment from last night that I wonder where the goals are going to come from. So defensive deficiencies are magnified when you don't have the scoring to offset (mask) them.

I could've written this post. Except I wouldn't say "not to pick on Ahti", because man, he needs to be picked on. I kept looking at the shot clock and was wondering how we were outshooting them as well. That was no fluke loss. They looked.....not good last night.

chickod
10-28-2015, 11:28 AM
...McAvoy has shown to be prone to mishaps in his own zone, Switzer looked totally lost at times last night, and even Hickey has been making some poor decisions.

...and they still take too many penalties. For a team who may be "scoring challenged," that's about the worst thing they can do. Maybe the most surprising thing (and this could be because they seemed tentative) is that they looked really SLOW at times...some of the D were like traffic cones...not moving their feet at all. I am assuming that a lot of this will improve as the season progresses...hence my other comment that we may have to wait until the second half of the season before we see the true identity of this team.

J.D.
10-28-2015, 11:40 AM
Danny and Ahti need a distributor on their line, and don't have one now

As an outsider, I did make this similar point further back. Who is getting these guys the puck? When I have seen the two of them play they are both more goal scorer than setup guys. Also, I'm pretty sure a BIG jump was expected from someone like AJ Greer. Haven't seen him this year but zero points and a -2. What exactly does he do offensively?

Defense: A lot can depend on slotting. Once you get someone like Grizz back, it can change the dynamic of what's expected of certain guys etc. Noticed Diffley didn't play last night. Everyone seemed happy with him last year and now he is healthy scratch even when Grizz is hurt? Hard to figure. Regardless, defense was touted going into this year as a real strength for BU. Considering you didn't lose anyone back there, I'd anticipate that improving. The goal scoring? I'm not so sure on.

brassbonanza
10-28-2015, 11:52 AM
As an outsider, I did make this similar point further back. Who is getting these guys the puck? When I have seen the two of them play they are both more goal scorer than setup guys. Also, I'm pretty sure a BIG jump was expected from someone like AJ Greer. Haven't seen him this year but zero points and a -2. What exactly does he do offensively?

Defense: A lot can depend on slotting. Once you get someone like Grizz back, it can change the dynamic of what's expected of certain guys etc. Noticed Diffley didn't play last night. Everyone seemed happy with him last year and now he is healthy scratch even when Grizz is hurt? Hard to figure. Regardless, defense was touted going into this year as a real strength for BU. Considering you didn't lose anyone back there, I'd anticipate that improving. The goal scoring? I'm not so sure on.

You're right, #5 returning will help normalize the D pairings a bit. Diffley sat, I presume, to give Switzer a shot, but he proved to be not ready. I would assume once Grzelcyk is back Diffley would be the one regularly sitting, but if McAvoy continues his 1-on-5 offensive theory and lazy mistakes in his own zone, he could be riding the pine a few times as well. I think the other four are solidly in the lineup.

Greer certainly has not gotten off to a good start. He's basically done nothing. He skates well, but I don't remember a single good shot he got off or a quality scoring chance he's had. Don't know whether it's a mental thing or simply he overachieved at the end of last year.