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MGoBlueHockey
12-29-2015, 08:58 PM
Some 20-something marketing exec whose suit is empty got paid tons of money to come up with this nonsense.

Introducing: The Iron D™


Mike Bayoff, Director of Strategic Hockey Alliances™ for the Red Wings/Olympia Entertainment, told the Free Press that U-M coach Red Berenson and MSU coach Tom Anastos will help play a role in the creation of the rival trophy, which will go to the winner of the annual game played in Detroit.

Bayoff said Michigan and Michigan State play for the Paul Bunyan Trophy in football, and Olympia Entertainment wanted to create something to signify the hockey rivalry when the game is played in Detroit.

The U-M/MSU hockey game at Joe Louis Arena has recently been termed “The Duel in the D™.”

“We wanted to have something that was our own when the two hockey teams from each university comes here to the Joe,” Bayoff said. “The trophy that will be unveiled is called The Iron D™."

Please. We don't have to like each other, but can we at least both agree, as two fanbases, that this is the dumbest idea and name of an idea ever? Worse than the Land Grant Trophy?

owslachief
12-29-2015, 10:11 PM
At the very least he would have a step up on recruiting the USA development team that he currently coaches. Which, for some reason, MSU's current coach just ignores and/or can't get any players from. After all the team is based in Michigan....

This is not the problem. I'm sure TA makes a play for plenty of the NTDP's - but they're looking at his track record on two fronts and ... you know. These guys want to compete and be NHL players.

Spartanforlife4
12-29-2015, 10:30 PM
Some 20-something marketing exec whose suit is empty got paid tons of money to come up with this nonsense.

Introducing: The Iron D™


Please. We don't have to like each other, but can we at least both agree, as two fanbases, that this is the dumbest idea and name of an idea ever? Worse than the Land Grant Trophy?

What a great idea to have a trophy for a single game between two schools that regularly play five games a year. Heck, last year we played six times and three of those were in Detroit!

aallenpollreisz
12-30-2015, 07:55 AM
Some 20-something marketing exec whose suit is empty got paid tons of money to come up with this nonsense.

Introducing: The Iron D™



Please. We don't have to like each other, but can we at least both agree, as two fanbases, that this is the dumbest idea and name of an idea ever? Worse than the Land Grant Trophy?I like the idea of a travelling trophy. College hockey, in general, needs more of those.

But yeah, "THE IRON 'D,' which, if you didn't know, is a registered trademark of Olympia Entertainment, all rights reserved" is kind of dumb.

gomsuman
12-30-2015, 10:08 AM
This is not the problem. I'm sure TA makes a play for plenty of the NTDP's - but they're looking at his track record on two fronts and ... you know. These guys want to compete and be NHL players.

Right that's what I said.. A new coach (Cole in particular) would probably have a better shot at getting those guys. I said Anastos just ignores and/or can't get any players from. Obviously it is more that he can't get any players from the NTDP's then it is him ignoring it.

gomsuman
12-30-2015, 11:24 AM
On yesterday.. what a disappointing performance in the 3rd. MSU had plenty of opportunities to get another goal in that game and just couldn't finish. Ebbing missed a wide open net on one chance because he didn't have his stick on the ice :eek:

This season reminds me of the season Jeff Lerg had like 50+ saves a game. Goaltending is great, defense is pitiful at times, and our offense can't do enough to take the pressure off the D. If this team didn't block so many shots Hildebrand would easily have close to 50 saves in every game.

aallenpollreisz
12-30-2015, 02:13 PM
Right that's what I said.. A new coach (Cole in particular) would probably have a better shot at getting those guys. I said Anastos just ignores and/or can't get any players from. Obviously it is more that he can't get any players from the NTDP's then it is him ignoring it.Judging from his post-game radio interviews and press conferences, he knows what the problems are. (If you recall, Comley would almost always say "we played well" and "a few bounces didn't go our way," even after losing games by six goals.)

This is, I don't know if Anastos knows how to fix those problems.

owslachief
12-30-2015, 05:23 PM
Judging from his post-game radio interviews and press conferences, he knows what the problems are. (If you recall, Comley would almost always say "we played well" and "a few bounces didn't go our way," even after losing games by six goals.)

This is, I don't know if Anastos knows how to fix those problems.

The guy in charge doesn't know how to fix the problems. The guys play their hearts out for two periods and take penalty after penalty in the third ... simply get outworked when it matters most. I feel sorry for every player on this roster, they believed in the program they were signing up for and I think there were sold a bill of goods. TA simply needs to step aside. I don't believe five years in is the time to be thinking about another rebuild.

Spartanforlife4
12-30-2015, 05:23 PM
There are four games I want/care to win the rest of the season. Two of them are next week. Otherwise, just let us lose out.

aallenpollreisz
12-30-2015, 05:31 PM
I think I'm jabbing a steak knife in my chest before the end of this season.

Christ, the last 10 minutes of that game were horrible. Walt turned up the aggression and we turned up the apathy. Heartless. Gutless. A disgraceful performance. A disgraceful GLI. Plenty of shame to go around on that bus ride back to campus tonight.

Decatur Spartan
12-30-2015, 07:14 PM
Some 20-something marketing exec whose suit is empty got paid tons of money to come up with this nonsense.

Introducing: The Iron D™



Please. We don't have to like each other, but can we at least both agree, as two fanbases, that this is the dumbest idea and name of an idea ever? Worse than the Land Grant Trophy?

Oh yeah. I do agree with you. Stupid and silly idea.

Decatur Spartan
12-30-2015, 07:31 PM
Absolutely embarrassing third period performance this weekend and over all in the last 9 games. 13 goals scored in the last nine for a average of 1.44. A record of 1-10-1 in the last twelve games. The current Head Coach say's he knows what the problems are. But obviously he isn't the person to fix them.
Without Hildebrand, MTU would have been up 4-1 after the first period Tuesday. Turnovers followed by leaving the Goalie out on a limb. Both OT goals were preventable. Just chose not to prevent them. This is a team hoping for a win. Not playing for a win. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see guys jump to the OHL and recruits decommit during the off season after being sold on the mess that is now Spartan Hockey.

Spartanforlife4
12-31-2015, 11:23 AM
This stretch of one win in 12 games has been matched before by Anastos. Back in 2013-14 in the year of 2-2 ties, we went 1-7-4 during a period of the 2nd half.

Before that the worst one win stretch was 14 games under Comley in 08-09 during a 1-11-2 streak.

manurespreader
12-31-2015, 05:24 PM
Not to rain on anyone's parade, and sorry to butt in, but first would you rather be Wisconsin? Now they have problems. Second, NMU is a good team. it's no disgrace to lose to them.

owslachief
12-31-2015, 08:52 PM
Not to rain on anyone's parade, and sorry to butt in, but first would you rather be Wisconsin? Now they have problems. Second, NMU is a good team. it's no disgrace to lose to them.
Put down the Kool-aid.

sm2pk
01-01-2016, 12:07 PM
When you hire Anastos for political reasons and not for coaching skills, you end up with a bad product out on the ice .

Decatur Spartan
01-01-2016, 03:55 PM
Not to rain on anyone's parade, and sorry to butt in, but first would you rather be Wisconsin? Now they have problems. Second, NMU is a good team. it's no disgrace to lose to them.

Ah....Don't see your justification for that as MSU had to come back to beat Wisconsin on a Friday night. Then got shut out by the Badgers the next night. We will trade you Tom Anastos for Mike Eves.

aallenpollreisz
01-01-2016, 08:34 PM
Ah....Don't see your justification for that as MSU had to come back to beat Wisconsin on a Friday night. Then got shut out by the Badgers the next night. We will trade you Tom Anastos for Mike Eves.At least Eaves was a good coach at one point of his career.

Hammer
01-01-2016, 08:46 PM
Not to rain on anyone's parade, and sorry to butt in, but first would you rather be Wisconsin? Now they have problems. Second, NMU is a good team. it's no disgrace to lose to them.

Wisconsin certainly has issues, but NMU is a .500 hockey team.

owslachief
01-01-2016, 09:29 PM
Wisconsin certainly has issues, but NMU is a .500 hockey team.

Wiscy is clearly headed in the right direction. I would rather have what remaining issues they're dealing with.