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Spartanforlife4
12-20-2015, 06:14 PM
So you're saying his whining and crying shtick got him on the bench?

Lulz

Pirateasaur
12-20-2015, 09:25 PM
I'm not tying to flame but are you serious with a 5-11-2 team playing at a high level of play? I can grant you that whenever you play Michigan because regardless of your teams ability they always play their A-game against.

Division 1 college hockey is indeed a high level of play. I have no idea how high up the hockey ladder your career climbed but I can assure you that every team at this level from AIC to North Dakota is full of excellent athletes. And I am not sure why you take offense to one of the most prominent coaches in college basketball being a guest on the bench for a brief time. I do recall Harbaugh doing the same with UM's b-ball team and talking Beiline's ear off when he was trying to coach but I doubt any Michigan fan cared.

John J. MacInnes
12-21-2015, 07:26 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have been, but I was shocked at how much interference and holding NU got away with. Repeatedly impeding MSU players going in for a puck, repeatedly holding the stick, etc.. It neutralized what skill the forwards had and made it a game of grit and survival.

There hasn't been a skilled forward at MSU since Tim Kennedy.

"Well, the world needs ditch diggers too." - Judge Smails

owslachief
12-21-2015, 10:50 AM
I feel compelled to use a handful of words about Izzo on the bench:
The whole weekend was about 2 MSU teams supporting the team on the floor or ice. So ... what's the problem again?

Now I need to comment about the icers :: sigh ::
I saw one team (the home team) mostly dominate the Spartans in their own zone. MSU, as usual, looked listless, less prepared, and was at times out-classed from most of the 1st until midway through the 3rd. Hard to believe the Huskies are a doormat in any league. I will say, however, that Ruck was certainly up to the task when MSU had their chances.

This is getting ridiculous - no doubt. The new regime has, with one exception, all its players in and working on a fifth year instilling its philosophy, but we're not seeing results.

spartyon58
12-21-2015, 11:59 AM
I feel compelled to use a handful of words about Izzo on the bench:
The whole weekend was about 2 MSU teams supporting the team on the floor or ice. So ... what's the problem again?

Now I need to comment about the icers :: sigh ::
I saw one team (the home team) mostly dominate the Spartans in their own zone. MSU, as usual, looked listless, less prepared, and was at times out-classed from most of the 1st until midway through the 3rd. Hard to believe the Huskies are a doormat in any league. I will say, however, that Ruck was certainly up to the task when MSU had their chances.

This is getting ridiculous - no doubt. The new regime has, with one exception, all its players in and working on a fifth year instilling its philosophy, but we're not seeing results.

Agreed. I don't know if this season can be salvaged. An upset GLI championship or a Big Ten Tournament title leading to the automatic NCAA bid seem very farfetched. More likely is a 4th-6th place finish in a weak conference. MSU has wasted 4 years of having an excellent goaltender with nothing much else around him. It's hard to watch.

Decatur Spartan
12-22-2015, 10:21 PM
Agreed. I don't know if this season can be salvaged. An upset GLI championship or a Big Ten Tournament title leading to the automatic NCAA bid seem very farfetched. More likely is a 4th-6th place finish in a weak conference. MSU has wasted 4 years of having an excellent goaltender with nothing much else around him. It's hard to watch.

Agreed. Four wasted years. Lets see, 18 games left. In theory MSU could go 23-11-2. Not likely.
Right now they are 5-11-2. 0-9-2 when trailing after 2 periods. 0-7 on the road. Goals for is around 2.7. Goals against around 3.2. No scorer in the top 35 in the country. No goaltender in the top FIFTY (50). That's 50! Defense is a mess. Offense is what it has been the last four years, terrible. Playing with no confidence. Open with MTU at the GLI. Then, either NMU or um. Realistically, I see 9, maybe 10 wins this season. That's it. There are guys on that team that may have some talent. But not with this coaching staff. How does everyone feel now about firing Rick Comley?

aallenpollreisz
12-23-2015, 03:51 AM
I think Comley would probably get 12 wins out of this bunch. We'd still be calling for his head.

When Comley was forced into retirement, it was time. College hockey was beginning to pass him by, especially on the recruiting trail. That said, I think it's pretty clear now Hollis made the wrong choice for his replacement. (Frankly, it was clear the day they hired Anastos, but I'm done with the whole "benefit of the doubt" thing.)

owslachief
12-23-2015, 10:44 AM
There are guys on that team that may have some talent. But not with this coaching staff. How does everyone feel now about firing Rick Comley?

I'm still fine with that decision. In the last 3 years of his tenure Comley didn't have the talent Anastos has now. He simply gave up recruiting against other programs. That said, it bothers me that the current regime is lacking an ability to develop any player beyond their freshman season.

Spartanforlife4
12-23-2015, 01:00 PM
Comley needed to go because he gave up after the NC season. Looking at Anastos' results and saying "are you happy now?" isn't really a great comparison. However, this isn't working either. Even another 2nd half jump like what happened last year isn't enough, because the Big Ten is a one bid league. You have to be able to win in non-con for the Pairwise, and all we've done is beat a bad Lake State and a mediocre UNH.

Decatur Spartan
12-23-2015, 06:55 PM
Comley needed to go because he gave up after the NC season. Looking at Anastos' results and saying "are you happy now?" isn't really a great comparison. However, this isn't working either. Even another 2nd half jump like what happened last year isn't enough, because the Big Ten is a one bid league. You have to be able to win in non-con for the Pairwise, and all we've done is beat a bad Lake State and a mediocre UNH.

Well Anastos, Miller, and Newton need to go. And go soon. Fairly obvious they cannot develop the talent. The program is regressing. I wonder how the locker room is. Josh Jacob's leaving during the summer looks like the right move now (14 pts in 32 games. as opposed to last year when he had 9 pts in 35 games.)
But, who would they be replaced with? I would hope maybe Danton Cole.
I hate changing for the sake of change, but a change needs to be made.

spartyon58
12-24-2015, 12:07 PM
Well Anastos, Miller, and Newton need to go. And go soon. Fairly obvious they cannot develop the talent. The program is regressing. I wonder how the locker room is. Josh Jacob's leaving during the summer looks like the right move now (14 pts in 32 games. as opposed to last year when he had 9 pts in 35 games.)
But, who would they be replaced with? I would hope maybe Danton Cole.
I hate changing for the sake of change, but a change needs to be made.

I'm ready for Hollis to clean house. Anastos wasn't the right choice, I would actually have preferred Kelly Miller as the head coach back when Anastos was hired. Newton has been around forever, there must be some reason he has never gotten a head coaching job anywhere. Danton Cole should get a serious look. There is no reason that MSU shouldn't be able to attract top level recruits in hockey, as football and basketball have done.

owslachief
12-24-2015, 09:55 PM
Well Anastos, Miller, and Newton need to go. And go soon. Fairly obvious they cannot develop the talent. The program is regressing. I wonder how the locker room is. Josh Jacob's leaving during the summer looks like the right move now (14 pts in 32 games. as opposed to last year when he had 9 pts in 35 games.)
But, who would they be replaced with? I would hope maybe Danton Cole.
I hate changing for the sake of change, but a change needs to be made.
If by some 11th-hour (think in terms of seasons) miracle Danton Cole ends up here, that is not change for change's sake ... that would be a gold mine of coaching ability. Not to mention instant prestige.

MaizeRage
12-25-2015, 10:40 AM
There is no reason that MSU shouldn't be able to attract top level recruits in hockey, as football and basketball have done.

For some reason, recruits just don't get excited about a building coming into compliance with a law passed 25 years ago.

Pirateasaur
12-25-2015, 04:27 PM
For some reason, recruits just don't get excited about a building coming into compliance with a law passed 25 years ago.

Yes, we all know how teenagers are so passionate about building codes, various ordinances, zoning laws etc.

Decatur Spartan
12-25-2015, 09:21 PM
If by some 11th-hour (think in terms of seasons) miracle Danton Cole ends up here, that is not change for change's sake ... that would be a gold mine of coaching ability. Not to mention instant prestige.

I wonder if Hollis ever contacted D. Cole. I have a feeling he didn't. The Anastos appointment was made pretty quickly.

MaizeRage
12-25-2015, 11:43 PM
Yes, we all know how teenagers are so passionate about building codes, various ordinances, zoning laws etc.

They care about the school they're considering putting the absolute bare-minimum into the building they'll pretty much live in is my point. Danton Cole is a nice coach(I don't think Anastos is as bad as some say either), but he proved at UAH that he's not a miracle worker. If MSU keeps putting Ohio State levels of effort and resources into their hockey program, they're going to keep getting Ohio State-level results.

Decatur Spartan
12-27-2015, 02:31 PM
They care about the school they're considering putting the absolute bare-minimum into the building they'll pretty much live in is my point. Danton Cole is a nice coach(I don't think Anastos is as bad as some say either), but he proved at UAH that he's not a miracle worker. If MSU keeps putting Ohio State levels of effort and resources into their hockey program, they're going to keep getting Ohio State-level results.

Well, the Athletic Department is putting in a good amount of money on renovating Munn.
The new glass, better lighting, ribbon advertising boards. Atrium where the Championship Trophy's will be displayed. Another locker room redo.
As for D.Cole at UAH, I don't think anyone will do very well there. And, sorry, but I must disagree with you concerning the Current Head Coach at Michigan State. He is not good.......At all. My opinion.

bcmsu9196
12-29-2015, 11:13 AM
Cole should get a long look. MSU alumnus, NCAA and Stanley Cup rings as a player, got UAH to the NCAAs (yes, I know it was a four-team league) plus his coaching experience and success at the minor-league level with Grand Rapids and Muskegon.

gomsuman
12-29-2015, 12:49 PM
Cole should get a long look. MSU alumnus, NCAA and Stanley Cup rings as a player, got UAH to the NCAAs (yes, I know it was a four-team league) plus his coaching experience and success at the minor-league level with Grand Rapids and Muskegon.

At the very least he would have a step up on recruiting the USA development team that he currently coaches. Which, for some reason, MSU's current coach just ignores and/or can't get any players from. After all the team is based in Michigan....

aallenpollreisz
12-29-2015, 08:30 PM
I think I'm going to go vomit. That third period was a car wreck. Under no circumstances should this team, with its record and recent performances, play to not lose.