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Decatur Spartan
02-14-2016, 06:51 PM
How much do you attribute Hildebrand's horrible numbers to his terrible team, as just opposed to him having a terrible year?

It's a terrible team. Best example: Giving up a 2 on 0 while on the PP against PSU.
That is a sign of a bad, bad team.

This team, playing it's absolute best, can but hope to go to OT against.....well, anybody.
Even the High School took them to OT.

Pirateasaur
02-14-2016, 10:17 PM
Also, are they contractually obligated to do the dance cam with a few minutes left in front of a rapidly emptying arena? If it wasn't for little kids not caring about what they are watching then it would just be the "bummed fans sitting there cam."

Edit: Also, I have been trying to remember for years to bring this up here but I always forget! The puck shuffle is too **** easy! Make us earn it!

UMICH
02-15-2016, 03:38 AM
Neg reps still exist here? Maybe not on mobile. Most of us have long accepted as reality any "burn" you can throw at us so I guess I am a bit surprised.

Yea I know, I haven't said anything negative about you guys in over a year. I mean it's just not fun. It'd be like picking on the disabled kid in gym class. You guys are down right now, it's no fun picking on someone who knows that he's going to lose.

UMICH
02-15-2016, 03:41 AM
How much do you attribute Hildebrand's horrible numbers to his terrible team, as just opposed to him having a terrible year?

It's got to be the entire team. The guy can't do it all himself, I think he's just mailed in the season (can't say that I blame him).

***This was just an outsiders perspective.

owslachief
02-15-2016, 09:06 AM
Yea I know, I haven't said anything negative about you guys in over a year. I mean it's just not fun. It'd be like picking on the disabled kid in gym class. You guys are down right now, it's no fun picking on someone who knows that he's going to lose.

Last I checked, you should be able to tell who's -rep'd you. ??


(and it ain't me ;))

Spartanforlife4
02-15-2016, 09:43 AM
Last I checked, you should be able to tell who's -rep'd you. ??


(and it ain't me ;))

I think that's only if you're premium. Some dude rep'd me a few pages back but didn't leave his name either and I have no idea how to find out.

Went to the game Friday, that might've been worse than 9-2. At least the team looked like they cared for part of 9-2.

Pirateasaur
02-15-2016, 10:02 AM
Went to the game Friday, that might've been worse than 9-2. At least the team looked like they cared for part of 9-2.

That's exactly what I thought! Most people would automatically assume 9-2 against UM was the worst and while I wasn't going to exactly try to defend that game, I felt like bad luck and poor goaltending were partly to blame for that disintegration. The PSU game somehow felt even more pathetic right from the drop of the puck.

gomsuman
02-15-2016, 11:51 AM
I agree that the 6-1 loss vs PSU was way worse then the 9-2 dismantling. That loss Friday was just due to very poor effort by almost every player on our roster. Not a single guy seemed to really be playing hard and we paid the price.

Also looking forward to next year (because, well, this year is practically over) do you guys think we lose any underclassman? The only one I can even imagine leaving early is MacEachern... but maybe Holland has earned himself an AHL career in fighting. Thoughts?

Pirateasaur
02-15-2016, 12:46 PM
I agree that the 6-1 loss vs PSU was way worse then the 9-2 dismantling. That loss Friday was just due to very poor effort by almost every player on our roster. Not a single guy seemed to really be playing hard and we paid the price.

Also looking forward to next year (because, well, this year is practically over) do you guys think we lose any underclassman? The only one I can even imagine leaving early is MacEachern... but maybe Holland has earned himself an AHL career in fighting. Thoughts?

Who knows what he is thinking but I would be shocked if MacEachern stuck around. I'm sure he enjoys it here but it also must be unbelievably frustrating to put so much of your life into your college hockey career and this to be the payoff. I am also skeptical of any NHL team's confidence in MSU's ability to develop their draft picks at the moment so I am not confident in what his council will suggest. Also, would a coaching change push him out of the door? Would it keep him here? I really hope he stays.

I anticipate morale is pretty low. Attrition is usually noy a concern these days but we lost a couple guys last year. There isn't anyone else who is even close to ready for an NHL jump so it pretty much just depends on how happy the guys are here.

Spartanforlife4
02-15-2016, 12:55 PM
As much as I sort of hope we lose each game to speed up the quest for a new coach, it would be nice to get at least three points this weekend to help stay at 5th in the standings. Even though we'll probably lose, I'd much rather play OSU than PSU in the opening round of the BTT.

Decatur Spartan
02-16-2016, 03:25 PM
As much as I sort of hope we lose each game to speed up the quest for a new coach, it would be nice to get at least three points this weekend to help stay at 5th in the standings. Even though we'll probably lose, I'd much rather play OSU than PSU in the opening round of the BTT.

I don't know. Depends on who you want to lose too? OSU or PSU? I'd rather lose to OSU. Older program. Not the stigma of losing to a fourth year program in PSU. But either way, the more losses, maybe the sooner we can have a Coaching change.

Spartanforlife4
02-20-2016, 12:03 AM
Hey we're somehow in 4th! Sure, we've played two more games than OSU, but who would've thought the Big Ten was so bad we could be in 4th with any amount of games played. No chance at 3rd though so at this point it's playing for the line change on St. Patty's.

UMICH
02-21-2016, 03:20 AM
Hey, if you're not careful Anastos will be back next year.

Decatur Spartan
02-21-2016, 06:08 AM
Hey, if you're not careful Anastos will be back next year.

Well.....I was thinking the same thing. Maybe this is the equivalent of wandering for Forty Years with an occasional glimpse of the Holy Land. We are just in year four..........

Pirateasaur
02-21-2016, 08:46 PM
Well.....I was thinking the same thing. Maybe this is the equivalent of wandering for Forty Years with an occasional glimpse of the Holy Land. We are just in year four..........

I really don't think so. Unless the most unlikely trip to the frozen four of all time happens, there is nothing positive to take from this season when looking towards 2016-17. There is nothing to think that a better future is on its way and a few wins near the end of the year do not change that.

I don't think I have ever been so lacking in optimism regarding MSU hockey.

Decatur Spartan
02-22-2016, 09:50 PM
I really don't think so. Unless the most unlikely trip to the frozen four of all time happens, there is nothing positive to take from this season when looking towards 2016-17. There is nothing to think that a better future is on its way and a few wins near the end of the year do not change that.

I don't think I have ever been so lacking in optimism regarding MSU hockey.

I'm with you Pirate. Moses lead the Israelite's for forty years before reaching the Promised land. But Moses was not allowed to cross over the River Jordon into the land of Israel. Hope we don't have tCHHCoMSU that long.

32 Degrees!
02-22-2016, 10:11 PM
The Chicago Steel are already saying that they're keeping Sparty-bound Mitch Lewandowski there in Chicago for next season. He had a couple good years at Detroit Honeybaked and this is his rookie USHL season. He seems to be growing at the USHL level now, so hopefully playing there one more season, and probably as a team leader, will give him all the tools to go into East Lansing as a contributing feshman

John J. MacInnes
02-23-2016, 07:37 AM
The Chicago Steel are already saying that they're keeping Sparty-bound Mitch Lewandowski there in Chicago for next season. He had a couple good years at Detroit Honeybaked and this is his rookie USHL season. He seems to be growing at the USHL level now, so hopefully playing there one more season, and probably as a team leader, will give him all the tools to go into East Lansing as a contributing feshman

Well, so much for this Big Ten directive that older players aren't welcome in college hockey then.

Pirateasaur
02-23-2016, 10:58 AM
Well, so much for this Big Ten directive that older players aren't welcome in college hockey then.

He's still young. If he waits a year he will be 19 during his freshman year.

Our defense has been so thin and such a disaster I feel it will be a multi-year project to fix. Next season we will be leaning on some 18 year olds and a kid who is coming off a knee injury AND hasn't played college hockey yet.

gomsuman
02-23-2016, 12:23 PM
He's still young. If he waits a year he will be 19 during his freshman year.

Our defense has been so thin and such a disaster I feel it will be a multi-year project to fix. Next season we will be leaning on some 18 year olds and a kid who is coming off a knee injury AND hasn't played college hockey yet.

I will admit Osburn has been really impressive so far. Reminds me of Krug in a lot of ways now that he has gotten those freshman jitters out of his system. But I agree our D-core will be extremely young next year.