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Flarrow
04-04-2016, 09:27 PM
There’s a lot of recent talk here from several longtime contributors, who have revealed they get it—youth hockey develops girls who can move into competitive travel girls hockey, and who know how ‘mentoring participants’ (coaches and/or friends of coaches) recognize and develop talent. Union may not offer scholarships, but a degree from Union has impact in a post-college athlete’s life, where employment is more likely outside hockey than in it. Getting a chance to compete at a D-1 level, with a great degree at the end, can recruit talent to the team, especially if a good turn-around coach is leading it.
We have a situation at Union where either/both the college and the coach know that this embarrassment cannot continue. If the coach will leave voluntarily before her contract is up, that would give the AD perhaps a year to recruit with imagination and reward: are there any coaches out there who could see the enticement of turning a program around, of taking a three year contract in a Northeast city that is relatively small and affordable, but is still accessible to Boston, NY, Montreal, even Buffalo and Toronto, in a city that has an AHL franchise, and at a college that has a high level mens program? Can anyone suggest names with whom the AD might initiate conversations? Three years to recruit, train and lead a team to a transformation—maybe not, probably not to the top of the league, but would ‘winning’ be demonstrating the pure talent as a coach who could lead a Union team to mid-level performance in three years?

ushockey
04-09-2016, 04:38 PM
Flarrow,
I agree with most of what you said with one exception. A new coach should be given at least a 4 year contract. Once hired she would probably be coaching only or at least mostly players recruited by the previous coach for at least the first two years. Her own recruits might not make it to campus before her third year. Furthermore when she is recruiting she needs to be able to tell her recruits that she is currently under contract for their first two years.

rdf8585
04-15-2016, 01:40 PM
Barcomb is out at Union: http://www.unionathletics.com/news/2016/4/15/head-womens-ice-hockey-coach-claudia-asano-barcomb-leaving-union.aspx

hockeydad09
04-15-2016, 03:32 PM
Barcomb is out at Union: http://www.unionathletics.com/news/2016/4/15/head-womens-ice-hockey-coach-claudia-asano-barcomb-leaving-union.aspx

Best news I heard all year!!! It's about time.

wpiguy
04-15-2016, 03:56 PM
Best news I heard all year!!! It's about time.
I find rather unsettling that you would find joy in someone's firing and I find it even more distasteful that you would actually go on a message board and post your immature thoughts annonymously.
I have had the chance to cross paths with this coach and I found her to be gracious and sincere. I'm sorry it didn't work out.
I also thought Union's press release was very professional.

joecct
04-15-2016, 05:02 PM
What about the assistants?

shelfit
04-15-2016, 05:29 PM
I find rather unsettling that you would find joy in someone's firing and I find it even more distasteful that you would actually go on a message board and post your immature thoughts annonymously.
I have had the chance to cross paths with this coach and I found her to be gracious and sincere. I'm sorry it didn't work out.
I also thought Union's press release was very professional.

Yes it was a good press release. Leaves room to wonder if she decided to get out before she was pushed out after next season. The writing was on the wall.....in all caps and bold.

giwan
04-15-2016, 06:21 PM
Yes it was a good press release. Leaves room to wonder if she decided to get out before she was pushed out after next season. The writing was on the wall.....in all caps and bold.

Has there been any other movement in coaching circles?

ushockey
04-15-2016, 08:23 PM
Best news I heard all year!!! It's about time.

I've pushed for her removal because I didn't feel she was successfully doing the job but I still won't celebrate her leaving. Firing someone or even watching from a distance as they leave when they tried to do their best is not enjoyable. I wish her the best in her future and look forward to a new start under a new team of coaches for the Union Women's Team. Lets get behind this Hockey Team as they work their way off the bottom realizing that we must be patient with their record in the next couple of years but not their effort. Go Union Hockey!

hockeydad09
04-15-2016, 09:12 PM
I find rather unsettling that you would find joy in someone's firing and I find it even more distasteful that you would actually go on a message board and post your immature thoughts annonymously.
I have had the chance to cross paths with this coach and I found her to be gracious and sincere. I'm sorry it didn't work out.
I also thought Union's press release was very professional.


Fired?? The press release stated she resigned. What do you know that we don't?

joecct
04-15-2016, 09:59 PM
Fired?? The press release stated she resigned. What do you know that we don't?

Luca Brasi held a gun to her head and the AD assured her that either her signature or her brains would be on that paper.

D2D
04-15-2016, 10:05 PM
Luca Brasi held a gun to her head and the AD assured her that either her signature or her brains would be on that paper.
Yikes, like she was a Confederate general being forced to surrender? ;)

Skate79
04-16-2016, 04:32 PM
The last paragraph of the release was the most interesting to me given the lack of talent at Union. If Asano Barcomb held these roles with USA Hockey, why was she unable to take advantage by recruiting better players? She had to have an up close look at those players. Or at least a way to connect with them to try and convince them to apply to Union.

I also thought the timing was curious given that this late in the game, the incoming coach is going to have a lot of work to do as far as building a staff and recruiting players. Hopefully Union will give the new coach several years to get the program straightened out.

D2D
04-16-2016, 10:30 PM
I also thought the timing was curious given that this late in the game, the incoming coach is going to have a lot of work to do as far as building a staff and recruiting players.
That was my first thought: why wait so long?

HockeyEast33
04-18-2016, 04:46 PM
That was my first thought: why wait so long?

The AD originally said they wouldn't fire her because she still had a contract and they wouldn't buy her out. My guess is they stuck to that position and Barcomb just unilaterally (with potentially some coaching) decided enough was enough and negotiated an exit. It is tough on the psyche to constantly be a whipping person for the worst program in the NCAA D1 and that has to wear on a person.

To the point of her involvement with USA Hockey and why she couldn't attract those players to Union, the involvement in USA Hockey is not a guarantee for recruiting but merely an opportunity that some are able to cash in n and some aren't. As another example, Jodi McKenna at Wesleyan was the USA U-18 head coach for a season (!!) and continues to struggle to attract players to Wesleyan.

Flarrow
04-19-2016, 03:37 PM
Under Better Late than Never (both the release and the news coverage):
Union women’s hockey coach resigns
By Pete Dougherty, Albany Times Union Staff writer April 15, 2016

“Union College announced Friday afternoon that women’s hockey coach Claudia Asano Barcomb will not be returning next season.
In nine years behind the Union bench, Barcomb had a record of 36-236-32 (.171), including 0-28-6 this past season. Union said a national search for the next coach will begin immediately.
Barcomb’s record had come [under] scrutiny after Union forced out football coach John Audino [following a] 0-11 season, although Audino’s career record in 24 seasons was 152-89 (.631) with five NCAA Division III Tournament [appearances]. He recently accepted a job as an assistant coach at Columbia under Al Bagoli, who preceded Audino at Union.”


Some points of general agreement with posts on this thread—

hockeydad09: Best news I heard all year!!! It's about time.

ushockey: I've pushed for her removal because I didn't feel she was successfully doing the job ... I look forward to a new start under a new team of coaches for the Union Women's Team. Let’s get behind this hockey team as it works its way off the bottom, realizing that we must be patient with its record in the next couple of years but not the team’s effort. Go Union Hockey!

HockeyEast33: The AD originally said they wouldn't fire her because she still had a contract and they wouldn't buy her out. My guess is they stuck to that position and Barcomb just unilaterally (with potentially some coaching) decided enough was enough and negotiated an exit.

Go (forward) Union!

Skate79
04-19-2016, 06:18 PM
The AD originally said they wouldn't fire her because she still had a contract and they wouldn't buy her out. My guess is they stuck to that position and Barcomb just unilaterally (with potentially some coaching) decided enough was enough and negotiated an exit. It is tough on the psyche to constantly be a whipping person for the worst program in the NCAA D1 and that has to wear on a person.

Agree. Losing is no fun no matter what division or level of competition. It had to wear on her and perhaps the thought of another losing season was just too much. I'm guessing there was a buyout of some kind that will enable her to assess her next move without financial pressure.


To the point of her involvement with USA Hockey and why she couldn't attract those players to Union, the involvement in USA Hockey is not a guarantee for recruiting but merely an opportunity that some are able to cash in n and some aren't. As another example, Jodi McKenna at Wesleyan was the USA U-18 head coach for a season (!!) and continues to struggle to attract players to Wesleyan.

I'm sure some coaches are more successful than others at developing pipelines and gaining commitments through these programs. In another post, I had wondered whether or not recruiting was an issue vis a vie Asano Barcomb not having connections to a U-18 program where talented players could be found and possibly persuaded to come to Union. The press release answered some of that for me and clearly she was unable to convince those USA players that Union was a viable choice.

Ralph Baer
05-13-2016, 07:19 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ICYMI, Josh Sciba (<a href="https://twitter.com/Sciba8">@Sciba8</a>) is the new <a href="https://twitter.com/UnionWHockey">@UnionWHockey</a> coach. <a href="https://t.co/noKJi41t3c">https://t.co/noKJi41t3c</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ECACHockey?src=hash">#ECACHockey</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/gatewhockey">@gatewhockey</a> <a href="https://t.co/6k1uZYkYCa">pic.twitter.com/6k1uZYkYCa</a></p>&mdash; Ken Schott (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/731276622247002112">May 14, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PuckRush
05-13-2016, 09:13 PM
Congrats to new head coach. Glad he's got a 5 year deal... it's going to take time to build this program back up. Not sure if there are any winnable games next season. But at least there is hope for the future in Schenectady.

Flarrow
05-14-2016, 05:30 PM
Looks like this could be a good hire.
One day at a time..Go U!