UAA: Patiently Waiting For Next Season, Every Season...

[Suze]

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I expect that the transfer situation has to do with whether the original school cuts the player loose. We just saw this with Alex Carpenter at UAH, who couldn't get ice time at Western and had to sit a year after transferring. I believe that a school can release a player of his/her obligation, but I may be completely wrong and should stick to aerospace engineering.

GFM

I know that schools can release players to transfer without being penalized. Edit: When John Hill left he wanted to take a UAA player to Minnesota with him ... the AD said absolutely not, but he did release the player to go to CC.

[Suze]

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Some nice highlights of the Renouf twins when playing in the BCHL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR31gL1aF5g

[QUAlum2004]

I know that schools can release players to transfer without being penalized. I remember John Hill once releasing a UAA player to any team other than a WCHA team.

I expect this to be the case with the Renouf twins. Rand Pecknold should and I think will release them so they become eligible immediately.

[Suze]

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I expect this to be the case with the Renouf twins. Rand Pecknold should and I think will release them so they become eligible immediately.

This article says they were both on full scholarships.

http://nhrcollegehockey.blogspot.com...nd-nathan.html

[AKSWF]

TJ was the guy who held it all together between the old and new coach.
And did a darn fine job of it.
He's a class guy.
Best of luck in whatever he has going!

Good, I was beginning to tire in bumping into him around town, matter of fact I Thomas a lot also.

Jk, TJ indeed was our rock, good luck on his future endeavors.

[uaafanblog]

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http://uaafan.blogspot.com/2015/04/s...rs-renouf.html

[MaizeRage]

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A coach can't "release a player to be eligible immediately" unless Quinnipiac announced they were cutting their hockey program. Everybody has to sit out a year. There used to be rare exceptions for personal hardship that would allow a player to play immediately, but even that was shut down by the NCAA this spring. Coaches can submit a list of schools that a player can't accept a scholarship at, but that's it.

[QUAlum2004]

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A coach can't "release a player to be eligible immediately" unless Quinnipiac announced they were cutting their hockey program. Everybody has to sit out a year. There used to be rare exceptions for personal hardship that would allow a player to play immediately, but even that was shut down by the NCAA this spring. Coaches can submit a list of schools that a player can't accept a scholarship at, but that's it.

Not true. Zach Luczyk transferred from Quinnipiac to Sacred Heart and played immediately the following year. He played in 6 games for us in 2013-14 and was scratched the rest of the time due to injuries and other players in front of him.

http://www.sacredheartpioneers.com/s...czyk_zach_ycv6

[MaizeRage]

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Luczyk applied for a special NCAA waiver and had it granted. Like I said, that no longer exists, and the Renoufs probably wouldn't have qualified anyway.

[Suze]

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A coach can't "release a player to be eligible immediately" unless Quinnipiac announced they were cutting their hockey program. Everybody has to sit out a year. There used to be rare exceptions for personal hardship that would allow a player to play immediately, but even that was shut down by the NCAA this spring. Coaches can submit a list of schools that a player can't accept a scholarship at, but that's it.

It appears this is correct. Here is what I found under the 2014-15 rules:

One-time transfer exception — You may be immediately able to play a sport at your new school if you:
■ Do not transfer to a Division I school for baseball, men's or women's basketball, football or men’s ice hockey (unless you were not recruited by the original institution and have never received athletically related financial aid);
■ Have never transferred before from a four-year school;
■ Are both academically and athletically eligible; and
■ Receive a release agreement from the school from which you are transferring.

Since the twins were on full rides, they obviously received financial aid. Bummer. Man, the NCAA sure likes to complicate everything.
Source: http://www.ncaapublications.com/prod...ONLINE2014.pdf

[Seawolf Fan]

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It appears this is correct. Here is what I found under the 2014-15 rules:

One-time transfer exception — You may be immediately able to play a sport at your new school if you:
■ Do not transfer to a Division I school for baseball, men's or women's basketball, football or men’s ice hockey (unless you were not recruited by the original institution and have never received athletically related financial aid);
■ Have never transferred before from a four-year school;
■ Are both academically and athletically eligible; and
■ Receive a release agreement from the school from which you are transferring.

Since the twins were on full rides, they obviously received financial aid. Bummer. Man, the NCAA sure likes to complicate everything.
Source: http://www.ncaapublications.com/prod...ONLINE2014.pdf

Is it correct that the coach can change the scholarship money at his sole discretion?
As an example: offer a guy a full ride and at the end of the semester cut it to a 1/4 scholarship....or books only....or????
Just wondering how scholarships work????

[Suze]

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Is it correct that the coach can change the scholarship money at his sole discretion?
As an example: offer a guy a full ride and at the end of the semester cut it to a 1/4 scholarship....or books only....or????
Just wondering how scholarships work????

I have heard this is true. I believe players have to continue to "earn" their scholarships, but don't quote me.

[gfmorris]

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Is it correct that the coach can change the scholarship money at his sole discretion?
As an example: offer a guy a full ride and at the end of the semester cut it to a 1/4 scholarship....or books only....or????
Just wondering how scholarships work????

I have been told by more than one coach at UAH (and we had a revolving door there for a while) that they can change. However, doing that regularly harms your ability to get and keep recruits given the threat of juniors. You can screw kids in NCAAAFB and NCAAMBB because, well, where are they going to go?

GFM

[MaizeRage]

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Traditionally, scholarships are year-to-year and have to be renewed every year. Teams recently gained had the opportunity to start offering multi-year guaranteed scholarships, but schools don't go out of their way to advertise that possibility exists so most kids don't know to ask for one and in college hockey, most kids don't have the leverage to get offered a multi-year scholarship from a school.

[Jimjamesak]

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So the Aces didn't make the playoffs either. I blame the new scoreboard...