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  • #16
    Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

    Reprising this from the prior thread. Bentley losing is phase one of the 4 point plan for getting the #3 seed. The #3 seed is important since that means RIT will not play Robert Morris until the AHA championship game.

    4 POINTS: First round bye, 2nd round home playoff series against Mercyhurst as 4 vs 5 matchup unless Bentley loses to both Sacred Heart and Holy Cross (RIT will become 3 seed and play highest ranked winner from opening weekend - likely Air Force or Holy Cross) OR Air Force sweeps Canisius (RIT will play Air Force in the 4 v 5 matchup). If BOTH happen, RIT be the 3 seed and Mercyhurst will drop to 6, meaning RIT v Mercyhurst remains the most likely 2nd round matchup)

    3 POINTS: First round bye, home playoff series against Mercyhurst as 4 v 5 matchup in the 2nd round.

    2 POINTS: First round bye IF Air Force does not sweep Canisius, 2nd round playoff series will be AT Mercyhurst in the 4 v 5 matchup. If Air Force does sweep Canisius, RIT will host a first round playoff series against either AIC (if Niagara gains 2 or more points against RoMo than AIC does against Army....don't hold your breath) or Niagara (most likely).

    1 POINT: First round bye if Air Force does no better than a split against Canisius, 2nd round playoff series would be at Mercyhurst if Bentley manages 1 point against either Sacred Heart or Holy Cross, otherwise it will be at Bentley. If Air Force does take 3 or more points, RIT will play the last place team (same scenario as above) as the 6 seed in the first round.

    0 POINTS: First round bye if Air Force takes no more than 1 point AND Holy Cross does not beat Bentley. 2nd round playoff series would be at Mercyhurst unless Bentley ties Holy Cross and loses to Sacred Heart (since Bentley and Canisius both need to take points to maintain our bye) in which case the series would be at Bentley. If Air Force captures a win (or two ties) and/or Holy Cross beats Bentley, RIT's first round series will be against AIC or Niagara. If one of those things happen, RIT will be #6 and play the last place team, if both happen they will be #7 and play the 2nd last place team. In both cases it will either be AIC or Niagara.
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    • #17
      Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

      If my math/results review is correct, here is how we stand in tiebreakrs. Also...AHA has weird tie breakers. I personally think conference wins should be first.
      1. Win % Head to Head
      2. Conference Wins
      3. Goal differential in head to head contests
      4. Goals allowed in head to head contests
      5. Winning percentage head-to-head against teams seeded 1 thru 11, starting with the #1 seed.
      6. Goal differential in games against teams seeded 1 thru 11, starting with the #1 seed.


      We win ties against:
      Bentley – RIT wins 3rd tie breaker (requires 4 points this weekend from RIT, 0 from Bentley)
      Mercyhurst – RIT wins 1st tie breaker (would require a W and a T to tie in points)

      Lose against:
      Holy Cross – RIT loses 1st tie breaker (requires 2 points from Holy Cross and 0 from RIT)

      Depends:
      Air Force – Air Force wins 2nd tie breaker unless AF ties twice and RIT loses twice, then RIT wins 3rd tie breaker (requires 2 points from AF and 0 from RIT, or 3 from AF and 1 from RIT, or 4 from AF and 2 from RIT)
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      • #18
        Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

        Someone (looking at you, komey) will probably correct me because I am sure I will mess this up...

        I think tonight we want:
        Holy Cross over Bentley
        Canisius over Air Force

        Army/AIC and Robert Morris/Niagara don't affect us.

        If that happens, then tomorrow, all we care about is winning to get 3rd seed!
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        • #19
          Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

          Originally posted by mar7967 View Post
          Someone (looking at you, komey) will probably correct me because I am sure I will mess this up...

          I think tonight we want:
          Holy Cross over Bentley
          Canisius over Air Force

          Army/AIC and Robert Morris/Niagara don't affect us.

          If that happens, then tomorrow, all we care about is winning to get 3rd seed!
          I don't know if it matters much what other teams do.

          If we get 3 or 4 points, we get a home playoff series in the second round. If we get less, we don't. Easy and simple.

          (Okay, so if we get less than 3 points, we need help to stay in a first-round bye position, but I'd rather not think about that...)


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          • #20
            Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

            Originally posted by mar7967 View Post
            Someone (looking at you, komey) will probably correct me because I am sure I will mess this up...

            I think tonight we want:
            Holy Cross over Bentley
            Canisius over Air Force

            Army/AIC and Robert Morris/Niagara don't affect us.

            If that happens, then tomorrow, all we care about is winning to get 3rd seed!
            Bentley/Holy Cross is tomorrow. Tonight's game result affects the rooting interest there. The only way the other 2 games would matter for RIT is if they wind up playing first round games.
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            • #21
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              "Two of those are his linemates, wingers Josh Mitchell (12-26 – 38) and McGowan (14-19 – 33). Their combined 113 points make them the second-highest scoring line in NCAA Division I, good for 50.5 percent of RIT's goal scoring. They've taken 29 percent of the Tigers' shots, are plus-50 and are important to RIT like 32 degrees is important to ice."

              50.5 percent of our scoring, jeez

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              • #22
                Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

                Originally posted by komey1 View Post
                Reprising this from the prior thread. Bentley losing is phase one of the 4 point plan for getting the #3 seed. The #3 seed is important since that means RIT will not play Robert Morris until the AHA championship game.

                4 POINTS: First round bye, 2nd round home playoff series against Mercyhurst as 4 vs 5 matchup unless Bentley loses to both Sacred Heart and Holy Cross (RIT will become 3 seed and play highest ranked winner from opening weekend - likely Air Force or Holy Cross) OR Air Force sweeps Canisius (RIT will play Air Force in the 4 v 5 matchup). If BOTH happen, RIT be the 3 seed and Mercyhurst will drop to 6, meaning RIT v Mercyhurst remains the most likely 2nd round matchup)

                3 POINTS: First round bye, home playoff series against Mercyhurst as 4 v 5 matchup in the 2nd round.

                2 POINTS: First round bye IF Air Force does not sweep Canisius, 2nd round playoff series will be AT Mercyhurst in the 4 v 5 matchup. If Air Force does sweep Canisius, RIT will host a first round playoff series against either AIC (if Niagara gains 2 or more points against RoMo than AIC does against Army....don't hold your breath) or Niagara (most likely).

                1 POINT: First round bye if Air Force does no better than a split against Canisius, 2nd round playoff series would be at Mercyhurst if Bentley manages 1 point against either Sacred Heart or Holy Cross, otherwise it will be at Bentley. If Air Force does take 3 or more points, RIT will play the last place team (same scenario as above) as the 6 seed in the first round.

                0 POINTS: First round bye if Air Force takes no more than 1 point AND Holy Cross does not beat Bentley. 2nd round playoff series would be at Mercyhurst unless Bentley ties Holy Cross and loses to Sacred Heart (since Bentley and Canisius both need to take points to maintain our bye) in which case the series would be at Bentley. If Air Force captures a win (or two ties) and/or Holy Cross beats Bentley, RIT's first round series will be against AIC or Niagara. If one of those things happen, RIT will be #6 and play the last place team, if both happen they will be #7 and play the 2nd last place team. In both cases it will either be AIC or Niagara.
                A couple of things. I messed up on one minor detail here in the "0 points" section - as mar7967 pointed out below, two Air Force ties will not actually allow Air Force to pass RIT regardless of RIT's results this weekend.

                The other is that getting into 3rd (a result I still find a little unlikely, although the least likely result - Sacred Heart beating Bentley - has already happened) is not an absolute requirement for avoiding Robert Morris in a potential semi-final. All that would have to happen is one of the lower seeds that plays the first weekend would have to beat either the 2 or 3 seed in the quarters. Then that team plays RoMo and the two middle teams left would play each other. Personally, I'm not really fussed about the 3 seed. I'm going by the assumption we'll have to play RoMo sooner or later anyway, and it may actually be an advantage to stay at the 4 seed and play a Mercyhurst team at home that we just whipped where both teams had the week off, then say Air Force in the 3 v 6 matchup where AF played last weekend.

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                • #23
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                  Wow 6-0, RIT destroying Mercyhurst at end of two.. Garbowsky is playin like a man possessed. Looks like the boys are getting hot at just the right time.

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                  • #24
                    Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

                    Originally posted by unscarred76 View Post
                    Wow 6-0, RIT destroying Mercyhurst at end of two.. Garbowsky is playin like a man possessed. Looks like the boys are getting hot at just the right time.
                    Not to discount the team, but it helps when Mercyhurst's former starting goalie is injured.
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                    • #25
                      Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

                      True, but that doesnt keep Mercyhurst from scoring, especially when they have second most goals in AHC : )

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                      • #26
                        Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

                        Originally posted by unscarred76 View Post
                        True, but that doesnt keep Mercyhurst from scoring, especially when they have second most goals in AHC : )
                        very true
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                        • #27
                          Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

                          Originally posted by unscarred76 View Post
                          True, but that doesnt keep Mercyhurst from scoring, especially when they have second most goals in AHC : )
                          Yep, Rotolo made the statement tonight that he is the "the guy". Puts up a shutout in the biggest game of the year. Sorry Ruby, but you can enjoy the Senior Night celebrations from the bench.

                          All in all a complete domination by the Tigers. Mercyhurst looked like they didn't want to be there at all.
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                          • #28
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                            8-0

                            Nice win. Best part is that they were winning all the little battles right to the very end.
                            Nice to see 60 minutes of hockey even with the big lead.
                            The win just makes tomorrow's game all the more important. They have to come out with the same or even more energy tomorrow because Mercy Hurst sure will. They need 1 point and the Tigers need 2.
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                            • #29
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                              Well that was fun. I don't think a different goalie would have made much of a difference with the type of goals RIT scored, especially early. Maybe 5-0 instead of 8-0 if they have a good game. Not much they're going to do on those first two goals which really set the tone.

                              As far as our goalies go, that was about as low-stress of a shutout as you can possibly have considering the score and the (lack of) quality of scoring chances Mercyhurst created. I think their best chance was the post they hit on a 2 on 1 in the first period - and I believe it was already 2-0 at that point. I wouldn't be surprised to see either goalie tomorrow night; I'm glad I don't have to make the decision.

                              Interesting to see Niagara beat Robert Morris (even if RoMo has nothing to play for), I would hate to end up at 6 and have to play them in the first round. Canisius is up 2-0 after two though on Air Force, so we're potentially 20 minutes away from clinching that 1st round bye. If Air Force does end up losing tonight and Holy Cross beats Bentley and we beat Mercyhurst, that would make our most likely 2nd round opponent Holy Cross...who had success at the Polisseni earlier in the year.

                              Oh and that shortie Garbowsky scored was filthy. Man I'm gonna miss him next year. Mitchell is also turning into quite the playmaker. Hopefully one or two of the other underclassman can develop some chemistry with him next year; he made those first two goals with great vision finding guys wide open with space.

                              Originally posted by XCTiger
                              8-0

                              Nice win. Best part is that they were winning all the little battles right to the very end.
                              Nice to see 60 minutes of hockey even with the big lead.
                              The win just makes tomorrow's game all the more important. They have to come out with the same or even more energy tomorrow because Mercy Hurst sure will. They need 1 point and the Tigers need 2.
                              Actually, RIT needs one point for home ice in the quarterfinals, and Mercyhurst needs two. As I mentioned above, a loss means RIT goes to Mercyhurst (assuming the AF-Canisius result holds), a tie means Mercyhurst comes here, and a win means we could reach the 3rd seed IF Bentley loses to Holy Cross (which would also move them to 6th, again assuming tonight's AF-Canisius result holds)
                              Last edited by jflory81; 02-27-2015, 10:04 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Re: >>>>> RIT TIGERS - Roaring into the postseason <<<<<

                                Ciampini scored for Union tonight, so he remains one goal ahead of Garbowsky for the national scoring lead.


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