Arizona State Moving To D1

[WeAreNDHockey]

Re: Arizona State Moving To D1

I think that if the PAC12 conference happens then we possibly see another tournament expansion with 20 teams in the tournament with 2 play in games.

I hope not. The tournament can't find suitable locations for the 4 regionals they have now, half the time. We don't need to add four more games that no one will pay to see to the mix. I don't want to see another expansion to the tournament field until we either see far more than 64 teams or the tournament becomes a more successful product in terms of TV ratings (never gonna happen) or at the gate consistently at all 4 regionals.

[Tater]

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I think that if the PAC12 conference happens then we possibly see another tournament expansion with 20 teams in the tournament with 2 play in games.

The NCAA has a preference for its tournaments to include approx. 25% of the teams playing in that division. So hockey would have to add about 20 teams (around 80 total) for the NCAA to bump the tourney to 20 teams.

[Bob Gray]

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Great day for us hockey fans in Arizona! I had hoped for this for awhile, and the AD had made noises about wanting to do this recently, but I really didn't expect it to happen anytime soon, if ever. The club team has been building for a number of years, culminating in winning the national title last season. Sure there will be growing pains and there's a number of things to sort out, but I think they'll sort it out and the program will eventually thrive. There are other arena options, including some renovation of Wells Fargo arena (ASU's basketball arena), maybe the Coyotes arena in Glendale, or the old Madhouse on Mcdowell (the Suns' old arena and where minor league hockey has played for many years). I've been very impressed with Anderson since he came on as ASU's AD and I don't think they'd move forward on this unless they had a good idea of what they were doing and that it had a good probability of working. It'd be great to land in the NCHC, where my UMD Bulldogs are. Then I'd get to see the doggies come to town regularly, though it'd be tough to decide which of my alma maters to root for when they would face each other. It's a good day for hockey in Arizona!

[manurespreader]

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To correct some mis conceptions, the chances are strong that they would charter out to all the away games, except alaska. Figure 15 to 20 dollars per nautical mile each way for the cost of transportation. That would mean also that whether they play in Bemidji or omaha or the springs is immaterial, they all have runways. Most big ten teams charter now btw. In other words, what league they might join is not really affected by the travel.

I think 32 million is pretty light if they really want to endow the whole thing.

Just my opinion though. Any civil engineers out there that can speak to how much it might cost to build a 7000 seat free standing rink?

[Flashy Man]

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Just my opinion though. Any civil engineers out there that can speak to how much it might cost to build a 7000 seat free standing rink?

$55 to $60 Million

[MaizeRage]

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To correct some mis conceptions, the chances are strong that they would charter out to all the away games, except alaska. Figure 15 to 20 dollars per nautical mile each way for the cost of transportation. That would mean also that whether they play in Bemidji or omaha or the springs is immaterial, they all have runways. Most big ten teams charter now btw. In other words, what league they might join is not really affected by the travel.

I think 32 million is pretty light if they really want to endow the whole thing.

Just my opinion though. Any civil engineers out there that can speak to how much it might cost to build a 7000 seat free standing rink?

It may not affect Arizona State, but it would affect the other members of their league that have to travel there.

Omaha's new 7500-seat arena cost about $80 million for the actual arena. ASU's plan at the moment seems to renovating their crappy ice arena or adding ice making capabilities to their basketball arena, which are both probably around the $10+ million range.

[Bob Gray]

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Long term a source of funding that will become available for ASU athletics is revenue from the commercial/office district they are developing along the Tempe Town Lake. Short term any revenue from that is likely to go toward funding of Sun Devil Stadium renovations, but once the stadium is renovated, those funds will be available to go other directions, so that could be a help long term in providing hockey facilities in some fashion.

[mar7967]

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To correct some mis conceptions, the chances are strong that they would charter out to all the away games, except alaska. Figure 15 to 20 dollars per nautical mile each way for the cost of transportation. That would mean also that whether they play in Bemidji or omaha or the springs is immaterial, they all have runways. Most big ten teams charter now btw. In other words, what league they might join is not really affected by the travel.

I think 32 million is pretty light if they really want to endow the whole thing.

Just my opinion though. Any civil engineers out there that can speak to how much it might cost to build a 7000 seat free standing rink?

RIT's 4000 seat arena (4300 capacity) cost $38 mil

[lmg6841]

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Yeah, the Coyotes are just killing it down there - certainly a hockey hotbed with tens of thousands of fans just screaming for a hockey team.

Yes, please, let's compare the prospects of an un-competative NHL team (outside of minor recent success) whose located 45 minutes from the city center to a college team that is going to be located in the hot bed of an 80k student campus.

Paying $5 to watch a club team is not the same as paying $20-$25 to watch a D-I hockey team. How many of those fans are going to come to games at 5 times the cost just because they're suddenly playing teams they don't play in any other sports.

The only way ASU gets away with charging $20-30 per ticket is if they're winning titles. AHA tickets are more aptly priced in the $6-20 range which would fill seats in Tempe.

[CollegeHockeyRinkReport]

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A negative view on ASU moving to D1

http://sbnation.com/e/7010744

[lmg6841]

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Such an easy schedule that gets them to the tournament once every 5 years. It apparently isn't easy enough

They've made it to the NCAA tournament 5 times in the last 9 seasons (and played really well while they were there), but nice try.

[SanTropez]

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A negative view on ASU moving to D1

http://sbnation.com/e/7010744

I'm sure Wisconsin views it negatively, after all it will be another school ahead of them in the PWR.

Being #59 is bad enough, but #60 is an all time low.

[JohnsonsJerseys]

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Going based off of Bill Robertson's comments over the summer about hockey expanding into the sun belt I'd say the WCHA is leader to pick up ASU.

Oh please, just say it isn't so... Unless ASU plans on picking up everyone's tab to come play them in AZ.

On the other hand if the WCHA member teams actually want ASU that should pretty much put to an end any thoughts of how broke the WCHA is...

If ASU wants to fly to every game, they might as well join Hockey East.

Ryan J

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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At first when I started getting texts about this yesterday from gscott13 I thought it was a joke.

Apparently this is really happening. Still a joke, though.

And bad for college hockey IMO.

[JF_Gophers]

A negative view on ASU moving to D1

http://sbnation.com/e/7010744

That wasnt much of a view. All he says is, it's vaguely bad cause small schools might not be able to compete at some future point when lots of big schools start playing.

Whenever that would be and whatever number the tipping point is.