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Ma#1ne Hky
01-17-2015, 11:54 AM
Goaltending-Goaltending-Goaltending...until this is taken care of,nothing will change...even with better recruits coming in...if your 'tending is iffy/hot & cold then your going no-where's fast.

rufus
01-17-2015, 12:28 PM
The Press Herald had a few other quotes from Gendron that you may have missed:

“The other team came in here and they really wanted it and we weren’t ready for that,” Gendron said, sarcastically mentioning that his team may have let last Saturday’s 3-0 win at UMass go to its head. “Maybe (the River Hawks) didn’t get the memo about how good we were.”

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/01/16/college-hockey-umass-lowell-blanks-black-bears-2-0/

That's a hallmark of TIMMAY teams, and probably a leftover remnant. Have a little success, no matter how minor, or what the competition was, and be satisfied and complacent. Instead of whetting the appetite for more of it, that little bit is enough.

rufus
01-17-2015, 12:33 PM
Goaltending-Goaltending-Goaltending...until this is taken care of,nothing will change...even with better recruits coming in...if your 'tending is iffy/hot & cold then your going no-where's fast.

The #2 goalie gave up 2 goals against Lowell, one of the better teams in the league. Most teams, you give up only two goals, you win. But as has been the case for most of the past eight years or so, these guys can't score in a hooah house. Every goalie they play against is the second coming of Patrick Roy.

Defense would be improved if Red would put Jake Rutt in the stands and keep him there. I'd play Norman or Hayes in his place anyday.

Drew S.
01-17-2015, 12:49 PM
The #2 goalie gave up 2 goals against Lowell, one of the better teams in the league. Most teams, you give up only two goals, you win. But as has been the case for most of the past eight years or so, these guys can't score in a hooah house. Every goalie they play against is the second coming of Patrick Roy.

Defense would be improved if Red would put Jake Rutt in the stands and keep him there. I'd play Norman or Hayes in his place anyday.

Well said. Goaltending is the least of Maine's problems. You could pick any goalie in hockey east and put them on Maine and Maine's record wouldn't be much if any better. There is no easy fix and people who think that are delusional.

all bear
01-17-2015, 01:22 PM
I'd like to believe its just lack of talent that's the problem but its that and something behind the bench too. He had the kids playing a lot harder last year than this year... have they tuned him out or has Red let off the gas pedal?

Because with what he has for talent from the goalie on out, they sure as hell better be the hardest working team out there, because they won't out talent many if any teams. No creativity in their forwards, no ability to make space, room and therefore very limited scoring chances.

How can you have a team with two All Americans that is as inept at scoring as these guys. Its frustrating as all phk to watch them play and create nothing. Game after game after game.

I have little interest in following this team, and most or all people I know that used to follow them no longer do. Something has got to change and quick.

Ma#1ne Hky
01-17-2015, 02:15 PM
The #2 goalie gave up 2 goals against Lowell, one of the better teams in the league. Most teams, you give up only two goals, you win. But as has been the case for most of the past eight years or so, these guys can't score in a hooah house. Every goalie they play against is the second coming of Patrick Roy.

Defense would be improved if Red would put Jake Rutt in the stands and keep him there. I'd play Norman or Hayes in his place anyday.Yes on Hayes playing Defense.

Ma#1ne Hky
01-17-2015, 02:20 PM
Well said. Goaltending is the least of Maine's problems. You could pick any goalie in hockey east and put them on Maine and Maine's record wouldn't be much if any better. There is no easy fix and people who think that are delusional.Are you for real...goaltending is a Major concern...and there are many goalies in Hockey East that would make a difference...Demko BC/ Gilles PC/ Nicoles UConn and that's just a few...Goaltending wins and is the BACKBONE of starting a NEW Foundation in turning this Program around...start from the back and work you way out.

walrus
01-17-2015, 02:46 PM
Are you for real...goaltending is a Major concern...and there are many goalies in Hockey East that would make a difference...Demko BC/ Gilles PC/ Nicoles UConn and that's just a few...Goaltending wins and is the BACKBONE of starting a NEW Foundation in turning this Program around...start from the back and work you way out.

So what goalie would have stopped the 2 goals last night. You recruiting Hasek or Roy. Let's say he stops one, guess what maine still loses. Morris can't stop tip ins when half the Lowell skaters are in the crease with him

rufus
01-17-2015, 03:22 PM
I'd like to believe its just lack of talent that's the problem but its that and something behind the bench too. He had the kids playing a lot harder last year than this year... have they tuned him out or has Red let off the gas pedal?

Because with what he has for talent from the goalie on out, they sure as hell better be the hardest working team out there, because they won't out talent many if any teams. No creativity in their forwards, no ability to make space, room and therefore very limited scoring chances.

How can you have a team with two All Americans that is as inept at scoring as these guys. Its frustrating as all phk to watch them play and create nothing. Game after game after game.

I have little interest in following this team, and most or all people I know that used to follow them no longer do. Something has got to change and quick.

Quote from Shore in the BDN says that they "just weren't hungry enough'. Which begs the question, with their record, and their performances over the last two seasons, why aren't they hungry enough? What do they need to happen to make them hungry enough?

Seems to me like a lack of a lot of character guys. Guys who are hungry enough.

all bear
01-17-2015, 03:59 PM
Quote from Shore in the BDN says that they "just weren't hungry enough'. Which begs the question, with their record, and their performances over the last two seasons, why aren't they hungry enough? What do they need to happen to make them hungry enough?

Seems to me like a lack of a lot of character guys. Guys who are hungry enough.

The #6 team in the country comes into Alford and they're not hungry enough ??!! What ta phck ails them? Why don't they have the seed to admit that their just not good enough nor competitive enough to compete at this level. This ain't D3 hockey boys.

Allagash
01-17-2015, 04:09 PM
Gendron's post game "Rex Ryan act" is getting somewhat tiresome.

“We didn’t come out with the necessary intensity. We were back on our heels,” said Gendron. “Our compete level wasn’t what it should have been. I have a big issue with that. There’s no excuses.”

I thought Maine competed overall as much as UML. There were some lapses, as there are in any hockey game. Bigger issue is talent and execution.

If your BF timmay was coaching he would have said "I liked the effort, we can try a little harder, overall i'm happy with where our team is"
I'm not happy about the teams direction and results this year but THE one thing I like about Red is his fire and ability to not sugar coat things. Nothing worse when a team is playing bad and you don't acknowledge the elephant in the room. I like reds passion and ripping into the team.

Ma#1ne Hky
01-17-2015, 04:18 PM
So what goalie would have stopped the 2 goals last night. You recruiting Hasek or Roy. Let's say he stops one, guess what maine still loses. Morris can't stop tip ins when half the Lowell skaters are in the crease with himNot talking about last nights game...but the Goaltending in general needs to be addressed...and as far as a Roy/Hasek...I talking about bringing in a kid to turn this Program around...maybe he could be the NEXT????...you fill in the Blank.

Chairman of the Boards
01-17-2015, 04:22 PM
Age has nothing to do with it, and it's ridiculous to say the game has passed him by. If we get the same results next year then maybe I won't be so quick to say "give it time," but for right now I don't see any other head coach coming in and doing a whole heckuva lot better with the players that we have now. Experience and wisdom are something you can't buy, and Gendron has paid his dues and you couldn't have asked for a better staff to come in and rebuild the program than the people Gendron has brought in with him to coach the team. As far as assessing players goes, wasn't it mentioned that Vessey was benched for a weekend just before he started to pick up his game and start scoring? He does assess players and he holds them accountable, but short of scoring goals himself what more can you ask of Gendron? Lower ticket prices is the major gripe that I have right now, because the way they are playing doesn't warrant the cost of coming out and seeing them play every weekend right now, but I doubt Gendron has much to do with that aspect.
Isn't experience and wisdom and the Stanley cup rings some of the reasons he got hired and gets paid over $200,000 or was he just lucky to be in the right place at the right time during his stint with the Devils?

Chairman of the Boards
01-17-2015, 04:36 PM
I'd like to believe its just lack of talent that's the problem but its that and something behind the bench too. He had the kids playing a lot harder last year than this year... have they tuned him out or has Red let off the gas pedal?

Because with what he has for talent from the goalie on out, they sure as hell better be the hardest working team out there, because they won't out talent many if any teams. No creativity in their forwards, no ability to make space, room and therefore very limited scoring chances.

How can you have a team with two All Americans that is as inept at scoring as these guys. Its frustrating as all phk to watch them play and create nothing. Game after game after game.

I have little interest in following this team, and most or all people I know that used to follow them no longer do. Something has got to change and quick.
I'm also baffled by the play of Hutton and Shore this year. Team leaders last year, and struggling in the leadership role this year. Maybe Devin needs a little humbling time skating with the fourth line.

rufus
01-17-2015, 05:47 PM
Not talking about last nights game...but the Goaltending in general needs to be addressed...and as far as a Roy/Hasek...I talking about bringing in a kid to turn this Program around...maybe he could be the NEXT????...you fill in the Blank.

Look at these losing scores: 2-0;3-2;3-2;4-1;4-1;3-2;3-1;4-1;3-0;3-1. these aren't all of the games, but if you can't score more than 1 or 2 goals a game, you aren't going to win many, even if your goalie does play well. Even if the goalie stops just one of those goals each game, Maine still doesn't win any of them. You need some kids who can put the puck in the net.

You're basically expecting the goalie to pitch a shutout every game for this team to have a chance, and there's not a goalie in the league that can do that playing behind this defense.

Where's the defense Red had playing when he was at Yale?

Chairman of the Boards
01-17-2015, 09:19 PM
Look at these losing scores: 2-0;3-2;3-2;4-1;4-1;3-2;3-1;4-1;3-0;3-1. these aren't all of the games, but if you can't score more than 1 or 2 goals a game, you aren't going to win many, even if your goalie does play well. Even if the goalie stops just one of those goals each game, Maine still doesn't win any of them. You need some kids who can put the puck in the net.

You're basically expecting the goalie to pitch a shutout every game for this team to have a chance, and there's not a goalie in the league that can do that playing behind this defense.

Where's the defense Red had playing when he was at Yale?
One of the reasons I thought he would be a really good fit for this team was because of his success being a defensive coach on a NCAA championship team. Stay with your strength and let the other two coaches hone your O

umhockey91
01-17-2015, 10:00 PM
Seems to me like a lack of a lot of character guys. Guys who are hungry enough.

This.

Fishman'81
01-17-2015, 11:29 PM
Maybe because Red sucks as a head coach. He's showing his age.

I don't think that Red sucks, but as a first-time college coach at 55, he might not have the kids' ears.

I don't think I'm selling revisionist history here when I say that I liked Corkum's relative youth and his success as a player in both the NCAA (and at Maine) and at the NHL level, back when he was a candidate for the job.

Aren't those the same exact things that Maine is trying to sell to plum recruits? If I'm a kid trying to make it to The Show, I might be much more sold on what Bob has actually accomplished via the same route he's offering me.

Ma#1ne Hky
01-18-2015, 04:39 AM
Look at these losing scores: 2-0;3-2;3-2;4-1;4-1;3-2;3-1;4-1;3-0;3-1. these aren't all of the games, but if you can't score more than 1 or 2 goals a game, you aren't going to win many, even if your goalie does play well. Even if the goalie stops just one of those goals each game, Maine still doesn't win any of them. You need some kids who can put the puck in the net.

You're basically expecting the goalie to pitch a shutout every game for this team to have a chance, and there's not a goalie in the league that can do that playing behind this defense.

Where's the defense Red had playing when he was at Yale?Oh I know they need scoring...they NEED A-LOT on this Team...it would be nice if there many shots on goal...or attempts would find the mark...I would guess they miss the net on 30% of there attempts,but when they do get the chances they have NOBODY that can finish...as far as Goaltending I will stick by imo and say they need to address it in the next year or two...hopefully then the Defenseman recruits can turn it around and make whomever mans the crease a little bit easier...7-15-1 is not cutting it...well if I saw the effort/grit and game to game improvement...then I might feel a little bit better in the direction of this Team.

walrus
01-18-2015, 06:30 AM
I' m going to go watch BC, they should kill Maine today. If Maine can't score on teams without Demko, should be a goose egg on a team with Demko