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BC/HE
10-16-2014, 08:22 PM
I think you may see more of a W shape for purchasing and it may spike in the middle just about now. Remember that BC fans have been attending quite often lately and many of them fall in this mid range. With the event in Boston the purchase level amongst them will be quite high. There has been a drop off from purchasing yearly over the last several years by many priority holders and they may well create a logjam in the middle of the pack too.

What I find interesting is the allowance for purchasers to buy seats leaving single seats all over the place. I would have thought that the system would have been set up to either force one to move over a seat to fill in rows or not allow a purchase if it created a lone seat.

Priceless
10-17-2014, 10:13 AM
I just received a call from my sales rep at the Garden. Private suites will become available on Monday afternoon and it looks like the price will be about $450/person. That works out to $150/game. For those that were with us in Tampa in 2012, this is only slightly more than the $125/game we paid for those seats and far less than the $200+/game we would have paid in Philadelphia last year. I am shocked prices are this low for Boston.

I have been in the premium section for hockey games and it really is an experience. Along with the ticket to the game, you get free admission to the amazing sports museum (see Jim Craig's locker, sit in the penalty box from the old Garden, etc). We also get a private entrance, access to premium restaurants and a terrific view of the games. For those who care about such things, alcohol will only be available in the suites. We are going to be getting a food package with the suite, but alcohol and additional items can be purchased separately.

If interested, please let me know ASAP. jhfhockey(at)gmail.com

ETA: Only 18 total seats are available, 3 are already gone.

gscott13
10-17-2014, 11:17 AM
I just received a call from my sales rep at the Garden. Private suites will become available on Monday afternoon and it looks like the price will be about $450/person. That works out to $150/game. For those that were with us in Tampa in 2012, this is only slightly more than the $125/game we paid for those seats and far less than the $200+/game we would have paid in Philadelphia last year. I am shocked prices are this low for Boston.

I have been in the premium section for hockey games and it really is an experience. Along with the ticket to the game, you get free admission to the amazing sports museum (see Jim Craig's locker, sit in the penalty box from the old Garden, etc). We also get a private entrance, access to premium restaurants and a terrific view of the games. For those who care about such things, alcohol will only be available in the suites. We are going to be getting a food package with the suite, but alcohol and additional items can be purchased separately.

If interested, please let me know ASAP. jhfhockey(at)gmail.com

ETA: Only 18 total seats are available, 3 are already gone.

if memory serves from when I worked for a small company that owned a box at the garden, there are only 14 actual seats out in front of the box, but they allow you to buy up to 18 tickets. There is a bar top just inside the suite where a handful of people (4) can sit at. those 4 seats might not be as desirable for some. Also, do they have a requirement for food and beverage person. back in 2004 we were required to purchase at least $500 per game. Does that cost include an allowance for catering, or is it just the rental and the tickets?

edit:
clearly didn't read all the way through to the food package part:

3d viewer of suites http://www.tdgarden.com/premium-seating/executive-suites/

and the booze is pricey. $38 for six pack of bud light.
http://www.tdgarden.com/pdfs/201415_preorder_menu.pdf

Priceless
10-17-2014, 11:29 AM
if memory serves from when I worked for a small company that owned a box at the garden, there are only 14 actual seats out in front of the box, but they allow you to buy up to 18 tickets. There is a bar top just inside the suite where a handful of people (4) can sit at. those 4 seats might not be as desirable for some. Also, do they have a requirement for food and beverage person. back in 2004 we were required to purchase at least $500 per game. Does that cost include an allowance for catering, or is it just the rental and the tickets?

edit:

3d viewer of suites http://www.tdgarden.com/premium-seating/executive-suites/

The one I was in 2 years ago for the playoffs vs Rangers was 22 tickets, 18 physical seats. They have multiple suite levels. Would love to get the 40 seat one but I expect that's already taken (and I doubt we could fill it). But I will specify. I just got the catering menu and it is a little pricier than I was expecting. What we did in Tampa is everybody in the suite voted on what we ordered for each game. For example, more meal-type options for the long day on Thursday and snacks on Saturday.

mookie1995
10-17-2014, 11:33 AM
and the booze is pricey. $38 for six pack of bud light.
http://www.tdgarden.com/pdfs/201415_preorder_menu.pdf

Vs $0 for a no-pack of bud light elsewhere in the bldg...... Not too shabby ;)

BC/HE
10-19-2014, 08:14 PM
As a priority 8, I was supposed to receive a reminder email with access details on Friday 10/17. None yet. I have heard others have had this same problem. Can you still order just by logging into the ticket page without that access info? Or can it only be handled by NCAA customer service at 866/208-0048

Edit: Found the info on this thread at post #80 by pgb-ohio

Originally Posted by Jaws View Post

Has anyone not received their reminder notice the day before their order day? I got the 1st notice in Aug. and should have gotten the reminder yesterday, but so far have not gotten it. Just want to know if this is just a glitch or a bigger issue. Any info will be appreciated,


You're not alone, and it's an annoying glitch to be sure. But rather than fight that battle, just use the information in this thread and proceed to the ordering process. Yes, the e-mail gives you a direct link to the log-in. But you can get the same info and accomplish the same thing with this link:

http://www.ncaa.com/championships/ic...ts-hospitality

One more click -- on your Priority Level -- and you're at the login page. Best of luck.

The Rube
10-19-2014, 08:17 PM
Vs $0 for a no-pack of bud light elsewhere in the bldg...... Not too shabby ;)

You mean the urinal water? Same difference.

mookie1995
10-19-2014, 08:36 PM
You mean the urinal water? Same difference.

as i've never actually tasted urinal water i will have to take your word for it :p

The Rube
10-19-2014, 08:37 PM
as i've never actually tasted urinal water i will have to take your word for it :p

I'm making a scientific assumption based on my beer research over the years. ;)

BCeagle
10-19-2014, 08:56 PM
When the Priority 9 Sale opens Friday morning, we'll be halfway through the levels. Whether that means half of the entire group has had an opportunity to pick is hard to say.

Just thinking out loud, but I wonder if plotting the numbers at each level would give us kind of a reverse bell curve. In other words: Quite a few annual attendees in the top several levels; quite a few in the 1-5 range, but not as many at the middle levels. I've wondered this for a while, and the fact we haven't had any reports from Priority 10's reminded me of it. Of course it's possible that those of us from USCHO are distributed this way, while the general public is distributed more normally.

Anyhow, if there's merit to the reverse bell curve idea, that gives greater hope to those at the lower levels. It would mean that relatively few priority holders are selecting seats immediately before them.

I was priority #9 and bought 4 tickets in loge 18 and 19. I couldn't buy 4 together and had to buy sets of 2.

Felger
10-20-2014, 08:58 AM
My apologies if this has already been covered but I couldn't find it in this thread. I can't remember my user name/password. Can I get that now or do I have to wait until it is my turn to buy?

Thanks

BC/HE
10-20-2014, 10:05 AM
My apologies if this has already been covered but I couldn't find it in this thread. I can't remember my user name/password. Can I get that now or do I have to wait until it is my turn to buy?

Thanks

User name is your email address. After you get to the login page on your order day they give you the option to send your password by entering the email address which I had to do as well and the password is not anything I set up or remembered getting before. Of course I had not ordered for 4 years either but if you had you probably set up one yourself. They give you 2 security questions to set up to get the password in the future as well.


Now as to tickets available there are more than I expected. There were a few groups of 3 in the Loge still available but none for 4. Not sure how to order separate sets of 2 but I think if you fulfill the order for 2 you have the option to continue to order at the bottom after the transaction completes. Don't hold me to that though as it is just a guess. Ask the purchaser BCeagle who did order that way and got 2 and 2. You may be surprised by selecting sections as some have seats in lower rows than the adjoining section. Example 319 had row 5 while the next section over 320 started at row 8 for groups of 4 tickets.

Felger
10-20-2014, 10:52 AM
User name is your email address. After you get to the login page on your order day they give you the option to send your password by entering the email address which I had to do as well and the password is not anything I set up or remembered getting before. Of course I had not ordered for 4 years either but if you had you probably set up one yourself. They give you 2 security questions to set up to get the password in the future as well.


Now as to tickets available there are more than I expected. There were a few groups of 3 in the Loge still available but none for 4. Not sure how to order separate sets of 2 but I think if you fulfill the order for 2 you have the option to continue to order at the bottom after the transaction completes. Don't hold me to that though as it is just a guess. Ask the purchaser BCeagle who did order that way and got 2 and 2. You may be surprised by selecting sections as some have seats in lower rows than the adjoining section. Example 319 had row 5 while the next section over 320 started at row 8 for groups of 4 tickets.

Thanks for the info

CleggyofUML
10-20-2014, 01:49 PM
Question for you guys, when would the tickets go on sale to the general public and what would the estimated cost be per ticket?

CLS
10-20-2014, 03:25 PM
Question for you guys, when would the tickets go on sale to the general public and what would the estimated cost be per ticket?

Looks to me that it'll be November 7.

http://www.ncaa.com/championships/icehockey-men/d1/tickets-hospitality

But keep in mind if the demand is high enough and all available seats are sold through the priority system, they may never go on sale for to the general public and your only chance would be the secondary market. Depending on availability, I'm guessing cost will be the same as the priority holders paid, $600 on the glass, $250 for loge, and $200 for balcony for both sessions. Don't know if there are any plans to sell individual session tickets or individual game tickets.

pgb-ohio
10-22-2014, 04:03 PM
Shouldn't the population of the priority list numerical groups remain the same , year after year?No. Conceptually there is one exception: If 100% of the priority holders at all levels purchased tickets, then each group would have exactly same members the following year. The only difference would be that the numerical label for each group would be x + 1. But that result is impossible, since there are more priority holders than seats available. More to the point, there will always be priority holders who decide not to make the purchase in any given year.

As an example, consider the top level of priority -- Level 18 for 2015. To keep the math simple, let's say there are 100 accounts now at Level 18, and the renewal rate is 95%. That means that at Level 19 for 2016 (the top level) there will be 95 accounts.


I always assumed if someone dropped out their spot would be filled by someone moving up to a better priority or by a wait list person.Again, this isn't correct. You can't leapfrog a level. You either keep pace with your cohort by making the purchase, or you fall a level behind by keeping your wallet closed.

Try this example. Let's say you've got a group of elementary school students -- 2 in first grade, 2 in second grade. One of the second graders flunks the year; all others pass. The following year, the number of 3rd graders will be one fewer than expected due to the fail. The number of second graders the following year will be one greater than expected for the same reason. You don't take one of the successful 1st graders and move them up to 3rd grade just because there's an empty chair. OK, OK. Occasionally gifted school children do skip a grade! But there's no equivalent to that in the ticket lottery.

Also, there's really no such thing as a FF wait list. Granted, we've had years where individuals shut out at the initial stage have later been given a chance to purchase tickets to that year's tournament. But those who accept such offers simply get 1 point and move up along the others who purchased. There's still no leapfrogging to the higher cohort.


Or are you comparing the general public population to the priority list population?No comparisons with the general public. I was drawing a comparison between USCHO priority holders and the full set of priority holders.

It's admittedly tough to find the right words to describe something this complex...

LTsatch
10-22-2014, 09:31 PM
No. Conceptually there is one exception: If 100% of the priority holders at all levels purchased tickets, then each group would have exactly same members the following year. The only difference would be that the numerical label for each group would be x + 1. But that result is impossible, since there are more priority holders than seats available. More to the point, there will always be priority holders who decide not to make the purchase in any given year.

As an example, consider the top level of priority -- Level 18 for 2015. To keep the math simple, let's say there are 100 accounts now at Level 18, and the renewal rate is 95%. That means that at Level 19 for 2016 (the top level) there will be 95 accounts.

Again, this isn't correct. You can't leapfrog a level. You either keep pace with your cohort by making the purchase, or you fall a level behind by keeping your wallet closed.

Try this example. Let's say you've got a group of elementary school students -- 2 in first grade, 2 in second grade. One of the second graders flunks the year; all others pass. The following year, the number of 3rd graders will be one fewer than expected due to the fail. The number of second graders the following year will be one greater than expected for the same reason. You don't take one of the successful 1st graders and move them up to 3rd grade just because there's an empty chair. OK, OK. Occasionally gifted school children do skip a grade! But there's no equivalent to that in the ticket lottery.

Also, there's really no such thing as a FF wait list. Granted, we've had years where individuals shut out at the initial stage have later been given a chance to purchase tickets to that year's tournament. But those who accept such offers simply get 1 point and move up along the others who purchased. There's still no leapfrogging to the higher cohort.

No comparisons with the general public. I was drawing a comparison between USCHO priority holders and the full set of priority holders.

It's admittedly tough to find the right words to describe something this complex...

Thanks for the explanation! I actually understood it. Although I am not a priority number holder, I have attended Pittsburgh and Philly (both sets of tix bought on the secondary market). Although I do not have tickets for Boston in hand I do have three hotel rooms reserved at the Marriott Residence Inn Tudor Wharf, the closest hotel to the rink (fantastic government rate that I booked the first day the FF weekend was available to book) the hotel has since sold out. Boston lodging prices can also keep the casual fan at home. Parking where I am staying is $40 a day :( Great job with this thread, and I hope you don't mind me posting occasional updates about secondary market prices as I will be watching that closely because it will most likely be my only avenue to tickets unless Yale gets in. There are 233 tickets on the website I am monitoring for the purposes of this thread, Low end has dropped just below $400 with the high end just above $1,000, not much fluctuation yet as should be expected.

pgb-ohio
10-22-2014, 11:22 PM
Thanks for the explanation! I actually understood it...Glad to hear it! Hope you're not alone. ;)


... I hope you don't mind me posting occasional updates about secondary market prices as I will be watching that closely because it will most likely be my only avenue to tickets unless Yale gets in. There are 233 tickets on the website I am monitoring for the purposes of this thread, Low end has dropped just below $400 with the high end just above $1,000, not much fluctuation yet as should be expected.Please continue to post that info; It's definitely part of the story. Although I haven't personally participated in the FF secondary market for a few years, I'll read your updates with great interest.

Priceless
10-23-2014, 12:07 AM
What I recommend people who find the hotel prices in Boston to be too high to check the MBTA Commuter Rail schedule and pick a hotel in one of the towns serviced by train. The last trains leave North Station (Boston Garden) at around 1am, so you're covered if the late game goes multiple overtimes. Salem has some lovely inns and I have stayed in Lowell several times. Taking the train also eliminates the need to park in Boston, which can be pricey.

Nick Papagiorgio
10-23-2014, 08:28 AM
What I recommend people who find the hotel prices in Boston to be too high to check the MBTA Commuter Rail schedule and pick a hotel in one of the towns serviced by train. The last trains leave North Station (Boston Garden) at around 1am, so you're covered if the late game goes multiple overtimes. Salem has some lovely inns and I have stayed in Lowell several times. Taking the train also eliminates the need to park in Boston, which can be pricey.

That's not a bad idea... Something to consider for folks doing this, the more convenient lines would be those serviced by North Station and not South Station and thus the areas north and northwest of the city would be a good place to look for hotels. South Station would require a subway ride (Red to Green) to get to the Garden or Fanueil Hall/North Station area but still not a dealbreaker if you can find a good hotel south or southwest of the city.

Of course, train tickets aren't all that cheap either so groups of 3+ may be better off parking for cheaper as a carload downtown (or elsewhere, see below) than everyone paying for round trip train fares, depending on what zone fare you would have.

A note about parking: I am a big fan of parking on the red line at Alewife (huge garage) for $7 and also at Wellington (large lot) on the Orange Line for $7. Alewife will allow you to avoid city traffic altogether and it's a cheap subway fare into Boston but not as convenient as Wellington, which is very quick access to the Garden but the traffic in that area is usually a clusterf getting in (getting out after events is usually easier because it's so late).

I did notice that for $179 a night a nice room at the Hilton in Dedham is available for FF weekend... right at Dedham Corp Center stop on the Franklin line, quick walk. That would require ZERO parking but a bit more complicated trip because it goes into South Station. And it's only Zone 2 which is a quick, cheap trip as far as the Commuter Rail is concerned (about $12.50 RT per person).