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CollegeHockeyRinkReport
09-17-2014, 07:48 AM
Agreed. They are still a year away IMO. And until I see what's going on between the pipes I will be keeping my expectations very low.

Probably two to three years away as they'll have to replace Hutton and Shore after this season most likely.

BBDiehard14
09-17-2014, 08:06 AM
I realize fan is short for fanatic but I'll have whatever you are smoking. This team won't even be top 4 in HE. They might be better than last year but given what happened at the end of last season, that ain't saying much.







Don't be so pessimistic :D Every season should be NCAA or bust. We should all have high expectations for our teams here. Winning is everything.

TERRIERFANinLA
09-17-2014, 10:19 AM
The D isn't all that big, but has lumbered a bit (more than a bit at times).

BTW, any clues about where Lomborg winds up next year? He was a royal pain to play against.

Jeez, I just looked a the NU stats, you are right, they are not all that big, I remember Gunn looking like a mountain out there, with a cannon for a shot.

and Lomberg will end up in the USHL, Youngstown, I think.

Lomberg WAS a royal pain, and iirc, he sent Madigan straight to the nut house... I have NEVER seen a coach scream crazily about an opponent player like Madigan did about how Lomberg should not even be on the ice after an inadvertant collision (that DID NOT EVEN INCLUDE LOMBERG) in front of the NU bench. The collision sent Smatula (?) to the ice in a heap, looking and acting like his career was over... only to come back on the ice one shift later and move laterally like Gretzky--- not quite the knee injury he had pretended to have).

there were a few of us in the balcony praising Jesus for the miraculous recovery and one or two Academy Award voters casting their votes right then and there.

TERRIERFANinLA
09-17-2014, 10:23 AM
Probably two to three years away as they'll have to replace Hutton and Shore after this season most likely.

well wec an hope for another year like the one when they had to replace Jean-Yves Roy and Scott Pellerin (that was at least 4 all American trophies, maybe 5 and one Hobey)

Runsub5
09-17-2014, 12:41 PM
I realize fan is short for fanatic but I'll have whatever you are smoking. This team won't even be top 4 in HE. They might be better than last year but given what happened at the end of last season, that ain't saying much.

I agree. First of all this team needs to demonstrate they can win on the road. Secondly, they need to develop as the season progresses and peak at the end. last year they peaked way too early and "tanked" at the end.

walrus
09-17-2014, 01:16 PM
Don't be so pessimistic :D Every season should be NCAA or bust. We should all have high expectations for our teams here. Winning is everything.

Realistic in this case. I think they improve but they aren't going to win it all. If they are top 4 in HE, Red did one heck of a job

Drew S.
09-17-2014, 01:23 PM
Realistic in this case. I think they improve but they aren't going to win it all. If they are top 4 in HE, Red did one heck of a job

Who is going to finish ahead of them? Surely Providence, but beyond that I don't see that many great teams in hockey east. I would say Maine has a 50/50 shot at finishing top four.

BBDiehard14
09-17-2014, 01:42 PM
Who is going to finish ahead of them? Surely Providence, but beyond that I don't see that many great teams in hockey east. I would say Maine has a 50/50 shot at finishing top four.



No question that the Friars are the team to beat but other than that, it's a crapshoot. We take care of business at home and steal some on the road, we'll be fine. And we don't see Providence until that final series again this year

gscott13
09-17-2014, 01:59 PM
And this is what those of us with conservative outlooks on the season cannot reconcile... one of you says, 50/50 to be top four in HE, and another saying it's a "crapshoot" and if things "fall right" they could be a frozen four team... well if we go with the 50/50 top four in the league scenario, there's a 50% chance that they are outside the top four and that would likely put them hovering on the bubble to make the NCAA tournament. Just about everyone in HE brings back plenty of scoring. BC, PC, NU, UVM, BU, MC all bring back experienced goaltenders from last season. Some teams have questions on defense, but Maine is included among them. I'm in agreement with those that think Maine is 2-3 years away. When Gendron's approach is really rooted. Unfortunately, that means Shore's talents are somewhat wasted, much like Gustav's. Still a lot of questions to be answered.

Returning Scoring
BC - 108
PC - 97
Northeastern - 94
Lowell - 79
Maine - 77
BU - 76
UVM - 66
UNH - 59
Notre Dame - 56
MC - 49
UMass - 36

Poor UMass... only two returners with more than five goals (and only 3 had five or more)

Nick Papagiorgio
09-17-2014, 02:17 PM
Poor UMass... only two returners with more than five goals (and only 3 had five or more)

"Poor Umass" is a phrase no one should ever use.

gscott13
09-17-2014, 02:25 PM
"Poor Umass" is a phrase no one should ever use.

point taken, but that's ugly. mastalerz must wake up every morning wondering what he did wrong to deserve such a team in front of him....

BBDiehard14
09-17-2014, 02:34 PM
And this is what those of us with conservative outlooks on the season cannot reconcile... one of you says, 50/50 to be top four in HE, and another saying it's a "crapshoot" and if things "fall right" they could be a frozen four team... well if we go with the 50/50 top four in the league scenario, there's a 50% chance that they are outside the top four and that would likely put them hovering on the bubble to make the NCAA tournament. Just about everyone in HE brings back plenty of scoring. BC, PC, NU, UVM, BU, MC all bring back experienced goaltenders from last season. Some teams have questions on defense, but Maine is included among them. I'm in agreement with those that think Maine is 2-3 years away. When Gendron's approach is really rooted. Unfortunately, that means Shore's talents are somewhat wasted, much like Gustav's. Still a lot of questions to be answered.

Returning Scoring
BC - 108
PC - 97
Northeastern - 94
Lowell - 79
Maine - 77
BU - 76
UVM - 66
UNH - 59
Notre Dame - 56
MC - 49
UMass - 36

Poor UMass... only two returners with more than five goals (and only 3 had five or more)



And do we all remember the 2001 Patriots? You know, the team nobody thought would win 8 games much less win a Super Bowl? This is sports. Anything can happen. We have to be faithful here and Red has said expectations are high - as they should be every year. Games are not played on paper. Games are played on the ice.

Drew S.
09-17-2014, 02:35 PM
And this is what those of us with conservative outlooks on the season cannot reconcile... one of you says, 50/50 to be top four in HE, and another saying it's a "crapshoot" and if things "fall right" they could be a frozen four team... well if we go with the 50/50 top four in the league scenario, there's a 50% chance that they are outside the top four and that would likely put them hovering on the bubble to make the NCAA tournament. Just about everyone in HE brings back plenty of scoring. BC, PC, NU, UVM, BU, MC all bring back experienced goaltenders from last season. Some teams have questions on defense, but Maine is included among them. I'm in agreement with those that think Maine is 2-3 years away. When Gendron's approach is really rooted. Unfortunately, that means Shore's talents are somewhat wasted, much like Gustav's. Still a lot of questions to be answered.

Returning Scoring
BC - 108
PC - 97
Northeastern - 94
Lowell - 79
Maine - 77
BU - 76
UVM - 66
UNH - 59
Notre Dame - 56
MC - 49
UMass - 36

Poor UMass... only two returners with more than five goals (and only 3 had five or more)

The 2007 team made the frozen four and they probably weren't one of the top 10 teams in the country. I don't think place of finish necessarily correlates to how far the team goes in the playoffs. A lot of how far a team goes in the playoffs comes down to luck, for better or worse.

I'm not sure how useful your chart is. For example, it would be interesting to know how many of those BC goals Hayes or Gaudreau was involved with last year.

BBDiehard14
09-17-2014, 03:40 PM
The 2007 team made the frozen four and they probably weren't one of the top 10 teams in the country. I don't think place of finish necessarily correlates to how far the team goes in the playoffs. A lot of how far a team goes in the playoffs comes down to luck, for better or worse.

I'm not sure how useful your chart is. For example, it would be interesting to know how many of those BC goals Hayes or Gaudreau was involved with last year.



You have a great point there. It's easy to score with guys like that on the ice

gscott13
09-17-2014, 03:40 PM
The 2007 team made the frozen four and they probably weren't one of the top 10 teams in the country

That 2007 team had great goaltending and underachieved in the conference, losing six of their last 8 games. And were coming off a stretch of NCAA appearances. The next year was the crater. Maine got in because they were 7-0-1 in Out of Conference games that year and had big wins that translated well to the PWR. Swept Bemidji, NoDak. Beat Minnesota, WMU, Cornell in their only meetings. This year they have Union (legit), Alaska-A (3 times), Alaska-F (1), and Canisius out of conference. This year's out of conference doesn't hold that kind of weight. And the in-conference out of conference games actually hurt Maine when it comes to Common Opponents in the PWR because theoretically, if Maine is being compared to a team that has only one common opponent (say UNh) and plays them once and wins, Maine would have to sweep UNH in four games to not lose the CoOp comparison.

But back to 2007. They backed in, somehow got slotted ahead of UMass who had just beaten them in four straight games thus avoiding Clarkson in the first round, got by St. Cloud (who had never won in the tourney before) and got a fifth chance at UMass...

This is a futile argument. We'll see how things play out over the course of the season. I hope come late March I am eating my words.

gscott13
09-17-2014, 03:42 PM
You have a great point there. It's easy to score with guys like that on the ice

They scored 84 goals that Gaudreau was not involved in. I'm not taking the time to eliminate how many of Hayes points overlap. Or how many overlapped with other seniors whose goals were already included in the other number

Ineverquit
09-17-2014, 04:48 PM
Ok everyone the season is less then a month away...lets put out our Picks for the Hockey East Regular Season/Frozen 4 Teams/UMaine player to have a great season/and a UMaine Player that's needs to step it up. - Hockey East: 1.Providence 2.Boston College 3.Northeastern 4.Vermont 5.MAINE 6.Notre Dame 7.Boston University 8.UMass-Lowell 9.New Hampshire 10.UMass 11.Merrimack 12.UConn - Frozen 4 Boston April 2015: Colgate - Providence - North Dakota - Minnesota. - UMaine player with a great season: Devin Shore,50 points in 36 games - 17 goals 33 assist. - Player needing to step up: Will Merchant... - well that my .02,hopefully others will follow/interesting to see what others fore-see to this upcoming season.

My guess for the Hockey East standings at the end of the regular season.

1. Providence
2. Boston College
3. Northeastern
4. UMass-Lowell
5. Maine
6. Vermont
7. Boston University
8. UNH
9. Notre Dame
10. Merrimack
11. Connecticut
12. UMass

blackbearbandie
09-17-2014, 07:01 PM
Latest from BDN:

UMaine lowers hockey ticket prices for 12 games in attempt to stem attendance decline

By Larry Mahoney, BDN Staff
Posted Sept. 17, 2014, at 7:06 p.m.

http://bangordailynews.com/2014/09/17/sports/umaine-lowers-hockey-ticket-prices-for-12-games-in-attempt-to-stem-attendance-decline/

Drew S.
09-17-2014, 07:31 PM
Latest from BDN:

UMaine lowers hockey ticket prices for 12 games in attempt to stem attendance decline

By Larry Mahoney, BDN Staff
Posted Sept. 17, 2014, at 7:06 p.m.

http://bangordailynews.com/2014/09/17/sports/umaine-lowers-hockey-ticket-prices-for-12-games-in-attempt-to-stem-attendance-decline/

Headed in the right direction but still way too high. Who in their right mind is going to pay $30 to see University of New Brunswick play? The problem Maine has is that they are in a vicious cycle of plenty of single game tickets being available so people are less likely to keep their season tickets which makes attendance even lower the following year.

BBDiehard14
09-17-2014, 07:45 PM
My guess for the Hockey East standings at the end of the regular season.

1. Providence
2. Boston College
3. Northeastern
4. UMass-Lowell
5. Maine
6. Vermont
7. Boston University
8. UNH
9. Notre Dame
10. Merrimack
11. Connecticut
12. UMass


Lowell is way too high. They lost a lot so they'll take a small step back