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TonyTheTiger20
03-10-2014, 11:13 AM
So is there like an actual town or any other sign of civilization up there or what?

OnMAA
03-10-2014, 11:15 AM
So is there like an actual town or any other sign of civilization up there or what?

There is lots of snow. Looks pretty.

joegrav
03-10-2014, 11:17 AM
I'm pretty excited for this game. All year I've suspected Clarkson is probably the second best team in the country. Both BC and Clarkson are coming off rather disappointing losses in the conference final and will be looking to atone, so I expect both to bring their best games.

BC is definitely the underdog, but if they can get their offense cranking at the level we've seen it hit from time to time they have a very good chance of coming out with a win.

As for the travel aspect... yes, I'm oddly looking forward to this journey and would love to know if anyone has a suggestion on where to go for lunch or dinner either before or after the game. From my cursory Wikipedia and TripAdvisor search I've determined that Potsdam has a pretty beautiful-looking "village" downtown, and is famous for its sandstone. Beyond that, I haven't found much. Ideas?

PuckRush
03-10-2014, 11:46 AM
I'm pretty excited for this game. All year I've suspected Clarkson is probably the second best team in the country. Both BC and Clarkson are coming off rather disappointing losses in the conference final and will be looking to atone, so I expect both to bring their best games.

BC is definitely the underdog, but if they can get their offense cranking at the level we've seen it hit from time to time they have a very good chance of coming out with a win.

As for the travel aspect... yes, I'm oddly looking forward to this journey and would love to know if anyone has a suggestion on where to go for lunch or dinner either before or after the game. From my cursory Wikipedia and TripAdvisor search I've determined that Potsdam has a pretty beautiful-looking "village" downtown, and is famous for its sandstone. Beyond that, I haven't found much. Ideas?

Regarding game... Clarkson's best defenseman, and Kazmaier top 10 finalist did not play vs. Cornell. She is a difference maker and her potential absence due to injury will make this a close game.

Regarding Potsdam... there is very little there. Get in and get out is my best recommendation. I guess I would recommend "Between the Buns" for gourmet burgers and beer (also have wings, other specialty sandwiches). A quieter choice is Mama Lucia's... Italian restaurant. Neither will blow you away, but probably best of the bunch.

OnMAA
03-10-2014, 11:57 AM
I'm pretty excited for this game. All year I've suspected Clarkson is probably the second best team in the country. Both BC and Clarkson are coming off rather disappointing losses in the conference final and will be looking to atone, so I expect both to bring their best games.

BC is definitely the underdog, but if they can get their offense cranking at the level we've seen it hit from time to time they have a very good chance of coming out with a win.

As for the travel aspect... yes, I'm oddly looking forward to this journey and would love to know if anyone has a suggestion on where to go for lunch or dinner either before or after the game. From my cursory Wikipedia and TripAdvisor search I've determined that Potsdam has a pretty beautiful-looking "village" downtown, and is famous for its sandstone. Beyond that, I haven't found much. Ideas?

Probably depends what you are looking for. Where is the long ago "Hux" "Fine Dining Near Each Campus" thread when you need it.

Try this for options: http://www.tripadvisor.ca/Restaurants-g48441-Potsdam_St_Lawrence_County_New_York.html

Potsdam is fairly small, downtown close to the Campus.

TonyTheTiger20
03-10-2014, 12:05 PM
I guess I would recommend "Between the Buns" for gourmet burgers and beer (also have wings, other specialty sandwiches).
How are the wings? This is probably the most important question you will ever be asked.

FireKnight
03-10-2014, 01:15 PM
I'm pretty excited for this game. All year I've suspected Clarkson is probably the second best team in the country. Both BC and Clarkson are coming off rather disappointing losses in the conference final and will be looking to atone, so I expect both to bring their best games.

BC is definitely the underdog, but if they can get their offense cranking at the level we've seen it hit from time to time they have a very good chance of coming out with a win.

As for the travel aspect... yes, I'm oddly looking forward to this journey and would love to know if anyone has a suggestion on where to go for lunch or dinner either before or after the game. From my cursory Wikipedia and TripAdvisor search I've determined that Potsdam has a pretty beautiful-looking "village" downtown, and is famous for its sandstone. Beyond that, I haven't found much. Ideas?


I can give you a few ideas for Potsdam, though I'll admit my information is a bit dated. I haven't been up there in a year or so and when I go up, I usually stay at my fraternity house and bore the kids with stories from 20 years ago.

Dining:

Eben's Hearth - a small American restaurant located on Route 11, directly opposite the University entrance. They have some pretty decent American fare and my parents always loved going there for breakfast. They have a bar with a "big beer" special on Saturdays, although the bar isn't the focus of their business. You can get just about anything there, it's decent and homemade.

Maxfields - an American restaurant/bar that is about as upscale as Potsdam gets but you can still walk in there in jeans. It's located near on Market Street in the Village. I'd say their food is a step below Eben's but a bit more expensive. They have a more expansive bar and if you visit later in the evening, it's going to be a bar only and no food. Given the 4pm start, it will probably still be a decent atmosphere after the game for a couple of hours.

McDuffs - if you're going for wings, this is the place to go, located on Market Street. They are a college bar all the way but, again, earlier in the day they have a restaurant atmosphere. Their food is cheaper and greasy but the wings are the best in town. I'm a little partial because I worked there as an undergrad and spent most of my disposable income there. If you're there after say 8pm, you're going to have a crowd of college drunks, so it won't be a place for the family.

The Cantina - pretty good Mexican fare for a place only a few miles from the Canadian border. They're tucked in the back of the Village near the Police Department. I'm not a big Mexican fan but they get pretty good reviews. Again, depending on the night, The Cantina tends to turn to more of a college type atmosphere as it gets later but the restaurant section is still good.

Between the Buns - I've never been to this place but they advertise all the time during Clarkson games. It's a fairly new place specializing in homemade American fare.

The Arena:

The Cheel Arena is part of the Cheel Campus Center which was the social hub of the University when it was built. If you're looking for a quick bite to eat, they have a "one step above fast food" dining area where you can get just about anything cafeteria style. Additionally, there is a bar in the Campus Center called Club 99 that has your basic beer and wine at excellent prices. One neat amenity that they have there is that they have a clock wired to the arena clock, so if you choose to step out of the arena for a brew between periods, you know exactly how much time you have to get back to your seat. Even at sold out games, I've been able to run out, have 2 beers, and return before the next period.

Cheel is a nice modern arena built which opened in 1991 (against BC, for you historians). It seats 3000 and there isn't a bad seat in the house. Assuming the game will have lots of empty seats, take a walk around the top of the arena between periods and you can see a lot of Clarkson hockey history, including some which crosses over with BC on the men's side. The atmosphere probably won't be too great, especially since the students will be on break. Coincidentally, it's a lot like the TD Center in Hamden, so you'll get a good feel for what the FF will be like the following weekend, at least from an arena perspective.

Lodging:

The Clarkson Inn is the "crown jewel" of lodging right in the village. It is run/owned by the school and it was built to mimic an old style city hotel. For my dollar, it costs way too much for someplace that I'm going to sleep and shower. If you're into economical and clean, I'd suggest Smallings Motel. It's located on Route 11, just west of the village. It's a typical motel with no amenities but it is clean, last time I stayed there it was only $60 a night, and the motel is owned by the Cheel Arena Director Scott Smalling. Some of the other motels are really, really, really, seedy (like the Northwood) and I'd avoid them at all costs unless you bring an exterminator with you.

joegrav
03-10-2014, 01:21 PM
I can give you a few ideas for Potsdam, though I'll admit my information is a bit dated. I haven't been up there in a year or so and when I go up, I usually stay at my fraternity house and bore the kids with stories from 20 years ago.

Dining:

Eben's Hearth - a small American restaurant located on Route 11, directly opposite the University entrance. They have some pretty decent American fare and my parents always loved going there for breakfast. They have a bar with a "big beer" special on Saturdays, although the bar isn't the focus of their business. You can get just about anything there, it's decent and homemade.

Maxfields - an American restaurant/bar that is about as upscale as Potsdam gets but you can still walk in there in jeans. It's located near on Market Street in the Village. I'd say their food is a step below Eben's but a bit more expensive. They have a more expansive bar and if you visit later in the evening, it's going to be a bar only and no food. Given the 4pm start, it will probably still be a decent atmosphere after the game for a couple of hours.

McDuffs - if you're going for wings, this is the place to go, located on Market Street. They are a college bar all the way but, again, earlier in the day they have a restaurant atmosphere. Their food is cheaper and greasy but the wings are the best in town. I'm a little partial because I worked there as an undergrad and spent most of my disposable income there. If you're there after say 8pm, you're going to have a crowd of college drunks, so it won't be a place for the family.

The Cantina - pretty good Mexican fare for a place only a few miles from the Canadian border. They're tucked in the back of the Village near the Police Department. I'm not a big Mexican fan but they get pretty good reviews. Again, depending on the night, The Cantina tends to turn to more of a college type atmosphere as it gets later but the restaurant section is still good.

Between the Buns - I've never been to this place but they advertise all the time during Clarkson games. It's a fairly new place specializing in homemade American fare.

The Arena:

The Cheel Arena is part of the Cheel Campus Center which was the social hub of the University when it was built. If you're looking for a quick bite to eat, they have a "one step above fast food" dining area where you can get just about anything cafeteria style. Additionally, there is a bar in the Campus Center called Club 99 that has your basic beer and wine at excellent prices. One neat amenity that they have there is that they have a clock wired to the arena clock, so if you choose to step out of the arena for a brew between periods, you know exactly how much time you have to get back to your seat. Even at sold out games, I've been able to run out, have 2 beers, and return before the next period.

Cheel is a nice modern arena built which opened in 1991 (against BC, for you historians). It seats 3000 and there isn't a bad seat in the house. Assuming the game will have lots of empty seats, take a walk around the top of the arena between periods and you can see a lot of Clarkson hockey history, including some which crosses over with BC on the men's side. The atmosphere probably won't be too great, especially since the students will be on break. Coincidentally, it's a lot like the TD Center in Hamden, so you'll get a good feel for what the FF will be like the following weekend, at least from an arena perspective.

Lodging:

The Clarkson Inn is the "crown jewel" of lodging right in the village. It is run/owned by the school and it was built to mimic an old style city hotel. For my dollar, it costs way too much for someplace that I'm going to sleep and shower. If you're into economical and clean, I'd suggest Smallings Motel. It's located on Route 11, just west of the village. It's a typical motel with no amenities but it is clean, last time I stayed there it was only $60 a night, and the motel is owned by the Cheel Arena Director Scott Smalling. Some of the other motels are really, really, really, seedy (like the Northwood) and I'd avoid them at all costs unless you bring an exterminator with you.

This is all excellent. Thank you for sharing. I'm excited for the trip.

Grant and I went to a Clarkson-SLU men's game back in our student days, rooting for Clarkson, due to our shared hockey history in the form of Mr. Jerry York. Fun times.

FireKnight
03-10-2014, 01:49 PM
This is all excellent. Thank you for sharing. I'm excited for the trip.

Grant and I went to a Clarkson-SLU men's game back in our student days, rooting for Clarkson, due to our shared hockey history in the form of Mr. Jerry York. Fun times.

It's lost a little bit of its atmosphere in recent years but Clarkson-SLU is still the best rivalry game in all of sports that I've been to and that includes Army-Navy and Yankees-Red Sox. It amazed me that two towns literally shut down for the games and the rivalry that exists. The underperformance of both men's teams of late as well as the struggling economy up in the North Country has really put a damper on things. I've never been to a BC/BU game, but I have been but I used to go up there every other Thanksgiving when we CCT/SLU and BC/BU played alternating home series every year. I can't imagine the atmosphere at Conte comparing to Cheel or Appleton, although I could see it at BU's old arena.

The village itself is really a step back in time to a lot of the old mom-and-pop stores that were small town America before WalMart and box stores took over the planet. The townsfolk are friendly, even if they speak with a distinct Canadian accent. Although Potsdam itself is a bit of a cultural center of the North Country, if you drive a half mile or so outside of town, you'll see the effects of the struggling economy. I always try to support the local businesses while I'm there, especially because the campuses, Clarkson in particular, have really hurt them in recent years by trying to become a resource for everything the student needs.

Clarkson and BC certainly share some legacy together both with Coaches Ceglarski and York. I lost a lot of respect for Coach York though the last time I was in Potsdam for a CCT/BC game. The game was supposed to be a celebration as Clarkson was dedicating the Len Ceglarski Coaching Chair, which is an endowment that pays for the CCT head coach position. They recognized both Len and Coach York in a ceremony prior to the game and they were expected to speak at the post-game hockey supporter meeting upstairs in the arena's Barben Rooms. Our players and coaches attend these post-game events every weekend just to make an appearance, thank the alumni and supporters, etc. etc. Coach York, after losing the game, didn't come up for his appearance and recognition, citing some lame excuse.

TonyTheTiger20
03-10-2014, 01:59 PM
McDuffs - if you're going for wings, this is the place to go
I love you.

Coincidentally, it's a lot like the TD Center in Hamden, so you'll get a good feel for what the FF will be like the following weekend, at least from an arena perspective.Oh nice. Q's arena is one of my favorites.


I lost a lot of respect for Coach York though the last time I was in Potsdam for a CCT/BC game ... Coach York, after losing the game, didn't come up for his appearance and recognition, citing some lame excuse.
I doubt the fact that BC lost had anything to do with it, honestly.

But hey, I understand being upset. The dude's a rock star.

FireKnight
03-10-2014, 02:11 PM
I doubt the fact that BC lost had anything to do with it, honestly.

But hey, I understand being upset. The dude's a rock star.

It probably didn't. It's a long bus ride back to Boston. I actually love listening to the stories about Coach York back before his rock star days. One of our alumni that posts on our CCT Hockey forum quite a bit was involved with the team as a student assistant of some sort when York took over. It's amazing to listen to the stories of how this overmatched kid that took over the reigns of a storied program at CCT grew into one of the most decorated college coaches in college, not just in hockey.

And as far as wings go, we used to have 10 cent wing specials during happy hour on Fridays when I worked at McDuffs in the mid-1990's and I had many an experience with them. The prices have increased but the wings are still good and now they have choices, where we used to just have mild, hot, and fire. I think they have 8 or 9 flavors now and regular and boneless wings. Not a bad selection for a small town college bar.

Trillium
03-10-2014, 02:48 PM
So is there like an actual town or any other sign of civilization up there or what?

Lots of Horse and Buggies and places where you can buy Amish baskets. Kind of makes you think you're time travelling.

joegrav
03-10-2014, 02:48 PM
And as far as wings go, we used to have 10 cent wing specials during happy hour on Fridays when I worked at McDuffs in the mid-1990's and I had many an experience with them. The prices have increased but the wings are still good and now they have choices, where we used to just have mild, hot, and fire. I think they have 8 or 9 flavors now and regular and boneless wings. Not a bad selection for a small town college bar.

I think I know where Mr. The Tiger is going to want to go now.

Since it's his car we're going wherever he wants.

Will you be at the game? Would love to buy you a beer for sharing your North Country expertise. (That goes for OnMAA too.)

TonyTheTiger20
03-10-2014, 02:49 PM
Oh here's a question worth asking -- does Clarkson charge for tickets?

Trillium
03-10-2014, 02:53 PM
The village itself is really a step back in time to a lot of the old mom-and-pop stores that were small town America before WalMart and box stores took over the planet. The townsfolk are friendly, even if they speak with a distinct Canadian accent.

:eek: They do??? Really? I've Never noticed any accent haha

OnMAA
03-10-2014, 02:56 PM
Oh here's a question worth asking -- does Clarkson charge for tickets?

Last weekend it was $4. For the semi's you got two games for $4, as the ticket was reusable for the second semi. (I lost mine along the way so had to buy a second to get back in) On Sunday it was $4 as well for the Final.

That is the same as it was in past years, so I suspect that that is standard Clarkson pricing.

Given you are driving all the way from CT why the worry about ticket pricing ?. Parking is FREE !!!!.

No need to pre-buy, each time I got to the rink last weekend 10 minutes before game time and it took about 5 minutes to buy my tickets and find my seat. It is non-designated seating for Women's hockey. You are free to roam.

Clarkson is a great facility, one of the better ones in the ECAC. It has a similar configuration as the TD in Hamden WRT seating configuration. Main difference is the color scheme.

Too bad if it is spring break, as the band may not there which would be a shame if that is the case. Clarkson has a great band and lively band. You'd love them if they were a BC band, as they get into the chanting and the whole bit. You would eat that up.

FireKnight
03-10-2014, 02:58 PM
I think I know where Mr. The Tiger is going to want to go now.

Since it's his car we're going wherever he wants.

Will you be at the game? Would love to buy you a beer for sharing your North Country expertise. (That goes for OnMAA too.)

I live about 288 miles from Potsdam door to door and I work on Saturday nights, so I won't be there. I might be going to Lynah for the men's game on Friday, as that's only about a 3 hour ride for me. Regardless of Saturday's outcome, I will be in Hamden for the FF though. That's only a 75 mile trip for me.

As far as charging for tickets, I believe that's regulated by the NC$$ as it is their tournament. The last time I was up there for a women's game, I believe it was free or maybe a $5 general admission. Our women's games barely draw 100 fans on most nights, although the ECAC represented well for the league tournament. Clarkson's website says the women's tickets for this weekend are $10 adult, $6 student/senior, $4 for kids 12 and under.

Trillium
03-10-2014, 02:58 PM
I've actually been to the new place Between the Buns in "downtown" Potsdam. I think it opened last spring. Great sports bar atmosphere more typical of larger cities, unexpected in the boonies.

It was packed. Many TVs to watch whatever sports games are on, the burgers are really good, lots of beer choices on tap, and best of all with ridiculously cheap beer prices. I'd highly recommend it.

joegrav
03-10-2014, 02:59 PM
Too bad if it is spring break, as the band may not there which would be a shame if that is the case. Clarkson has a great band and lively band. You'd love them if they were a BC band, as they get into the chanting and the whole bit. You would eat that up.

My experience with ECAC bands is that they are generally great with the cheering and the liveliness and not so great with the instrumentation.

TonyTheTiger20
03-10-2014, 03:02 PM
Given you are driving all the way from CT why the worry about ticket pricing ?. Parking is FREE !!!!Four dollars?!?!?!?!

Joe -- bail?