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Darius
03-24-2014, 11:35 AM
Well, I have spent thousands on season tickets. I've had season tickets to the Varsity Club for multiple years. I like to think that I'm spending my money with some return benefit. Your comment is beyond comprehension. No wonder you were dismissed on the Lowell thread.I read a quote once, can't recall it exactly, something about good money after bad. Hang on, wait right here, I'll Google it and post it for you. Don't go anywhere, I'll be right back...

Aerman
03-24-2014, 12:23 PM
Was just reading on the Berenson thread that although his Wolverines missed the NCAAs for the second time in the past 15+(?) years this season, he is coming back for another year, despite being almost 75 yo and hinting that he was going to retire after last year. Of course, he has two rings from 1996 and 1998, and came really close to a third in 2011. So, maybe Maybe is thinking that he can still do it, being a decade younger than Berenson.

One significant difference is the relative ease of getting thoroughbreds into his program. :(

C-H-C
03-24-2014, 01:09 PM
Was just reading on the Berenson thread that although his Wolverines missed the NCAAs for the second time in the past 15+(?) years this season, he is coming back for another year, despite being almost 75 yo and hinting that he was going to retire after last year. Of course, he has two rings from 1996 and 1998, and came really close to a third in 2011. So, maybe Maybe is thinking that he can still do it, being a decade younger than Berenson.


One significant difference is the relative ease of getting thoroughbreds into his program. :(

Having USA Hockey's National Team Development Program 3 miles down the road from the University of Michigan helps.

Chuck Murray
03-24-2014, 01:17 PM
UNH has plans to have an access road run behind the Whitt and go under the RR tracks. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon because I believe it has been a part of the campus master plan for 10+ years now but it's still on the agenda since the recent campus master plan release in 2012. And I don't know if it would help pedestrians walking from A lot to the Whitt all that much since it is still a far walk but if they could have a road go under the tracks maybe a pedestrian tunnel closer to the Whitt is possible.

http://www.unh.edu/cmp/pdf/unh%20campus%20master%20plan%202012%20final%20illu strative%20plan.pdf

If nothing else, it would reduce the foot traffic coming over the existing Main St. bridge. Not knowing or seeing any specific plans, I'd also welcome seeing them open up the "other" side of The Whitt, which such a project would likely need to do to work.

As long as the project goes under the tracks, I don't see any RR service interruptions, but I do know RR right of way issues are fraught with tons of red tape, so that's probably a big reason this hasn't already happened yet. Hux - any insight on that? :confused:

Dan
03-24-2014, 02:18 PM
One significant difference is the relative ease of getting thoroughbreds into his program. :(

UNH will be as talented as they have been in a LONG time next year. The Wildcats will bring in FOUR freshman forwards who could easily reach 100+ career points, in Poturalski, McNicholas, Foegele & Eiserman. When was the last time UNH (which was always known for this type of class or close to it...) brought in that much firepower??? Along with Downing, a hopefully stronger Kelleher and the emergence of Willows and the offense should be very skilled and headed in the right direction for the first time in a long time. The problem is they'll be VERY young, so it may take a year...

The defense probably won't be as talented as the corp of the last few years - and will also be very young - but for the first time in a long time the majority of the UNH roster will be legit top-end DI talent. At the very least, the rebuilding can truly begin to take place.

With recruiting whiffs & sanctions - much more so than a 'dilapidated Whitt' - UNH was behind the 8-ball for a while with very few true top-line forwards. They had to get through it and I think they have. I'd say the last few years of Umile & Staff may have been some of their worst recruiting work, but some of their best coaching...

McNicholas - Downing - Willows
Eiserman - Poturalski - Kelleher
Foegele - Smith - Correale
Thrush - Camper - Gaudreault

Pesce - vanReimsdyk/Agosta
Cleland - Marks
Maller - Chanter

DeSmith
Clark

* I'll hold out hope TVR is back until I hear otherwise. If he's back - Agosta is likely gone. I think Foegele coming in early, and eating a scholly, likely means ONLY one (if either) defenseman will come back.

Ryan422
03-24-2014, 04:58 PM
If nothing else, it would reduce the foot traffic coming over the existing Main St. bridge. Not knowing or seeing any specific plans, I'd also welcome seeing them open up the "other" side of The Whitt, which such a project would likely need to do to work.


Ya I agree even if it's the same distance walking it would still be faster walking through the tunnel because there would be no bottleneck at the stairs. It's like cattle being herded going up and down those stairs. And I also always wondered why they never had the other end of the Whitt be another entrance.

Snively65
03-24-2014, 05:20 PM
If nothing else, it would reduce the foot traffic coming over the existing Main St. bridge. Not knowing or seeing any specific plans, I'd also welcome seeing them open up the "other" side of The Whitt, which such a project would likely need to do to work.

As long as the project goes under the tracks, I don't see any RR service interruptions, but I do know RR right of way issues are fraught with tons of red tape, so that's probably a big reason this hasn't already happened yet. Hux - any insight on that? :confused:

Just call Dig Safe; what could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

HockeyRef
03-24-2014, 05:43 PM
UNH will be as talented as they have been in a LONG time next year. The Wildcats will bring in FOUR freshman forwards who could easily reach 100+ career points, in Poturalski, McNicholas, Foegele & Eiserman. When was the last time UNH (which was always known for this type of class or close to it...) brought in that much firepower??? Along with Downing, a hopefully stronger Kelleher and the emergence of Willows and the offense should be very skilled and headed in the right direction for the first time in a long time. The problem is they'll be VERY young, so it may take a year...

The defense probably won't be as talented as the corp of the last few years - and will also be very young - but for the first time in a long time the majority of the UNH roster will be legit top-end DI talent. At the very least, the rebuilding can truly begin to take place.

With recruiting whiffs & sanctions - much more so than a 'dilapidated Whitt' - UNH was behind the 8-ball for a while with very few true top-line forwards. They had to get through it and I think they have. I'd say the last few years of Umile & Staff may have been some of their worst recruiting work, but some of their best coaching...

McNicholas - Downing - Willows
Eiserman - Poturalski - Kelleher
Foegele - Smith - Correale
Thrush - Camper - Gaudreault

Pesce - vanReimsdyk/Agosta
Cleland - Marks
Maller - Chanter

DeSmith
Clark

* I'll hold out hope TVR is back until I hear otherwise. If he's back - Agosta is likely gone. I think Foegele coming in early, and eating a scholly, likely means ONLY one (if either) defenseman will come back.

Awesome post!!! Time will tell but man if this sticks it looks very exciting for our 'Cats! Interesting point about the past years recruiting and coaching; I do think you are onto something here..

Chuck Murray
03-24-2014, 07:02 PM
Just call Dig Safe; what could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

Right up there with "I'm from OSHA, and I'm here to help." Gotta love multi-layering of ineffective bureaucracy. :rolleyes:

Chuck Murray
03-27-2014, 06:31 AM
Simple question for today's consideration ... who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey?

Flush from the quasi-success of the Men's Hockey team in advancing to the HE Finals in their first March trip to Boston in three seasons, and apparently basking in the afterglow and heavy media attention ;) generated by the Gymnastics team's EAGL title and progress into the NCAA's, our boy BS35 seems to have forgotten there is a Women's Hockey team languishing in turmoil, and veering scarily towards the precipice of total irrelevance and even possible extinction.

Tomorrow will mark the one-month anniversary of the end of the season for the Women's Hockey team. Three months before that, the events which spurred the original creation of this thread unfolded, with the dismissal of long-time Women's Head Hockey Coach (and former Men's Assistant Coach) Brian McCloskey, in an action that raised many as-yet-unanswered questions as to the motives behind the controversial decision to cut ties abruptly with a respected and successful coach who had become a fixture on the UNH campus for the better part of two decades. Today's post is NOT meant to revisit whether that was a good or bad decision - opinions have varied, and for what it's worth, mine remains that it was an absolutely opportunistic move driven by extreme "buyer's remorse" from an AD who had just extended said coach's contract for three more seasons - but to explore the aftermath, and what is being done to repair the undeniable damage which has been visited upon the program. And that brings us back to today's question ...

Who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused:

BS35 appointed assistant coaches Jamie Wood and Stephanie Jones as "Interim Co-Head Coaches" (isn't that a mouthful?) shortly after the decision to separate from Coach McCloskey. To say both Coach Wood and Coach Jones found themselves thrown into the "deep end" of a challenging situation would be an understatement. Coach Wood played for and captained Middlebury back in the early '90's, then graduated with a law degree from University of New Brunswick in 1999 before embarking on a coaching career that took him from UNB to Elmira College, and finally to a successful stint as an assistant with the University of Minnesota before coming to UNH in 2010, while Coach Jones starred as a captain and leading goal scorer with the 'Cats in the early part of the last decade, before coming back to UNH as an assistant to Coach McCloskey a year later after spending her first post-grad season as an assistant with Colgate.

Not surprisingly, despite everyone's best efforts and intentions, the 'Cats struggled post-McCloskey. Hovering just under .500 at the time of McCloskey's dismissal, the 'Cats forged a very credible 3-3-0 record in the immediate aftermath of the change in leadership, but then the roof caved in, as UNH finished the season in the midst of an 11 game losing streak, while the distractions in the aftermath of the controversial decision to part ways with the previous head coach mounted. It is not unreasonable to conclude that with some sharp divisions of opinion in the locker room over the decision to part ways with Coach McCloskey, and whether all voices were truly heard as part of the University's "investigation", those divisions ultimately proved to be the undoing of this year's team.

With the "interim" tags still attached to their titles, Coaches Wood and Jones face the future (long-term or otherwise) with questions, and precious few answers. There have been no statements of outward or even implied support from Athletic Department leadership (perhaps an oxymoron there?), and so two promising young assistants who encountered a series of obstacles not of their own making, wait without assurances to learn of decisions as to their fates with the UNH program ... figuratively twisting in the wind.

Again ... just who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused: :confused:

And while the situation with the coaching staff remains muddled and undetermined, word has reached me over the last 24 hours from multiple sources that no less than a half-dozen returning Women's Hockey scholar-athletes have asked for - and apparently have been granted - releases from the program in the last 30 days, free to seek out "better" options and greener pastures elsewhere. Reports of players having repeatedly asked for meetings with the AD's office, and even the President's office - and basically being ignored - have forced them to re-assess their futures, rather than just wait around to see what people they don't trust OR have any faith in eventually get around to doing with the program. And who can reasonably blame them after the events of the last few months?

Again ... exactly WHO is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused: :confused: :confused:

There are currently 21 players listed on the UNH Women's Hockey roster, but the fact of the matter is that by the time the season was winding down, that number was effectively down to about 15 players, due to injuries and assorted "other" reasons, which in fairness to the co-interim coaches, was apparently well underway before the events of the Ohio State weekend. Three of those players graduate in a couple months, and hve obviously played their last games for UNH. With half of next year's returning team now in limbo, exploring their options elsewhere as a simple equation of being frustrated at continuously being ignored, and with reports of potential incoming players now rethinking their commitments ... the cupboard for UNH Women's Hockey is looking decidedly bare. Frighteningly bare even.

BS35 announced not so long ago how proud he was that UNH had landed the plum award of the 2016 Women's Frozen Four, to be hosted at the Whittemore Center for the 3rd time in its history. It's a great privilege, and the idea of a UNH Women's team competing in such an event as the host team would seemingly be a great potential recruiting point. Except we don't know yet who will be recruiting the players ... or if committed players currently on the team OR coming to the team will be here come September ... or daresay whether the program will even have enough players for the 2014/2015 season, putting the whole "host" status for the 2016 FF in jeopardy??????

Begging the question ... who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused: :mad: :confused:

The silence from BS35's perpetually sunny, what-me-worry corner of the UNH universe is deafening ... :(

DC78-82
03-27-2014, 07:44 AM
Good question, Mr. Murray.

NCAA watcher
03-27-2014, 07:46 AM
I would guess the lawyers are minding the store, and Scarano's hands are tied. The program will suffer until the legal claims are resolved.

The Zlax45
03-27-2014, 07:51 AM
Simple question for today's consideration ... who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey?

Flush from the quasi-success of the Men's Hockey team in advancing to the HE Finals in their first March trip to Boston in three seasons, and apparently basking in the afterglow and heavy media attention ;) generated by the Gymnastics team's EAGL title and progress into the NCAA's, our boy BS35 seems to have forgotten there is a Women's Hockey team languishing in turmoil, and veering scarily towards the precipice of total irrelevance and even possible extinction.

Tomorrow will mark the one-month anniversary of the end of the season for the Women's Hockey team. Three months before that, the events which spurred the original creation of this thread unfolded, with the dismissal of long-time Women's Head Hockey Coach (and former Men's Assistant Coach) Brian McCloskey, in an action that raised many as-yet-unanswered questions as to the motives behind the controversial decision to cut ties abruptly with a respected and successful coach who had become a fixture on the UNH campus for the better part of two decades. Today's post is NOT meant to revisit whether that was a good or bad decision - opinions have varied, and for what it's worth, mine remains that it was an absolutely opportunistic move driven by extreme "buyer's remorse" from an AD who had just extended said coach's contract for three more seasons - but to explore the aftermath, and what is being done to repair the undeniable damage which has been visited upon the program. And that brings us back to today's question ...

Who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused:

BS35 appointed assistant coaches Jamie Wood and Stephanie Jones as "Interim Co-Head Coaches" (isn't that a mouthful?) shortly after the decision to separate from Coach McCloskey. To say both Coach Wood and Coach Jones found themselves thrown into the "deep end" of a challenging situation would be an understatement. Coach Wood played for and captained Middlebury back in the early '90's, then graduated with a law degree from University of New Brunswick in 1999 before embarking on a coaching career that took him from UNB to Elmira College, and finally to a successful stint as an assistant with the University of Minnesota before coming to UNH in 2010, while Coach Jones starred as a captain and leading goal scorer with the 'Cats in the early part of the last decade, before coming back to UNH as an assistant to Coach McCloskey a year later after spending her first post-grad season as an assistant with Colgate.

Not surprisingly, despite everyone's best efforts and intentions, the 'Cats struggled post-McCloskey. Hovering just under .500 at the time of McCloskey's dismissal, the 'Cats forged a very credible 3-3-0 record in the immediate aftermath of the change in leadership, but then the roof caved in, as UNH finished the season in the midst of an 11 game losing streak, while the distractions in the aftermath of the controversial decision to part ways with the previous head coach mounted. It is not unreasonable to conclude that with some sharp divisions of opinion in the locker room over the decision to part ways with Coach McCloskey, and whether all voices were truly heard as part of the University's "investigation", those divisions ultimately proved to be the undoing of this year's team.

With the "interim" tags still attached to their titles, Coaches Wood and Jones face the future (long-term or otherwise) with questions, and precious few answers. There have been no statements of outward or even implied support from Athletic Department leadership (perhaps an oxymoron there?), and so two promising young assistants who encountered a series of obstacles not of their own making, wait without assurances to learn of decisions as to their fates with the UNH program ... figuratively twisting in the wind.

Again ... just who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused: :confused:

And while the situation with the coaching staff remains muddled and undetermined, word has reached me over the last 24 hours from multiple sources that no less than a half-dozen returning Women's Hockey scholar-athletes have asked for - and apparently have been granted - releases from the program in the last 30 days, free to seek out "better" options and greener pastures elsewhere. Reports of players having repeatedly asked for meetings with the AD's office, and even the President's office - and basically being ignored - have forced them to re-assess their futures, rather than just wait around to see what people they don't trust OR have any faith in eventually get around to doing with the program. And who can reasonably blame them after the events of the last few months?

Again ... exactly WHO is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused: :confused: :confused:

There are currently 21 players listed on the UNH Women's Hockey roster, but the fact of the matter is that by the time the season was winding down, that number was effectively down to about 15 players, due to injuries and assorted "other" reasons, which in fairness to the co-interim coaches, was apparently well underway before the events of the Ohio State weekend. Three of those players graduate in a couple months, and hve obviously played their last games for UNH. With half of next year's returning team now in limbo, exploring their options elsewhere as a simple equation of being frustrated at continuously being ignored, and with reports of potential incoming players now rethinking their commitments ... the cupboard for UNH Women's Hockey is looking decidedly bare. Frighteningly bare even.

BS35 announced not so long ago how proud he was that UNH had landed the plum award of the 2016 Women's Frozen Four, to be hosted at the Whittemore Center for the 3rd time in its history. It's a great privilege, and the idea of a UNH Women's team competing in such an event as the host team would seemingly be a great potential recruiting point. Except we don't know yet who will be recruiting the players ... or if committed players currently on the team OR coming to the team will be here come September ... or daresay whether the program will even have enough players for the 2014/2015 season, putting the whole "host" status for the 2016 FF in jeopardy??????

Begging the question ... who is "minding the store" at UNH Women's Hockey? :confused: :mad: :confused:

The silence from BS35's perpetually sunny, what-me-worry corner of the UNH universe is deafening ... :(

Again I ask this, has the job even been posted?

Greg Ambrose
03-27-2014, 08:11 AM
Again I ask this, has the job even been posted?

Friend of mine with knowledge of women's hockey in general says that UNH is in the process of looking for a new coach. If that is true, perhaps they are searching around for a couple of solid candidates who would agree to interviews before the job is posted. In other words, select the leading candidates in advance, then go through the motions of positng the job. Isn't this the way the real world works?

Chuck Murray
03-27-2014, 08:20 AM
I would guess the lawyers are minding the store, and Scarano's hands are tied.

That's reassuring ... Atty. Miles Proctor IV of Dewey Cheatham & Howe, de facto head coach of your UNH Wildcats. Will he be billing us (i.e. the taxpayers) at full rate for his recruiting trips, practice time AND game time behind the bench, perchance? :rolleyes:

Not good enough, sorry. Decisions are needed ASAP, or else there will be a glorified Women's club hockey team taking to the ice in September. BS35 supposedly made the big-boy decision 4 months ago (let's not forget, he's been in college sports administration for those 35 LONG years after all), so now it is time for him to deal with the fallout. It's his job, so here's an idea ... why not DO the job, instead of hiding behind the lawyers??

It's not like the forseeable future of the program is hanging in the balance ... oh, wait ... :(

Darius
03-27-2014, 09:50 AM
Yes it was AD Scarano's, ultimately perhaps even President Huddleston's decision, but most likely a decision made or heavily influenced by HR/legal staff which is why you have people expert in their fields on staff. This thing is a quagmire. UNH is doing the right thing keeping quiet. It doesn't mean they are not doing anything, just that they are not publicizing it. AD Scarano is as aware as anyone that it would be better to have this resolved with a coach in place.

Czarry
03-27-2014, 10:55 AM
Recently speaking to former Governor John Lynch (a current Board of Trustees member, fraternity brother and personal friend). He admittedly still does not know all the facts in the McCloskey fiasco... Has assumed, or perhaps heard, that the coach was fired for an accumulation of previous incidents but, was very surprised to learn that McCloskey had recently signed a new 3 year contract. Lynch agreed that any issues would/should have been addressed at that juncture. Apparently the Scarano blackout, silence, mis- information extends all the way to the Board of Trustees. Governor Lynch was quick to agree that the mishandling of this incident has left a black mark on the University.

Chuck Murray
03-27-2014, 11:19 AM
Yes it was AD Scarano's, ultimately perhaps even President Huddleston's decision, but most likely a decision made or heavily influenced by HR/legal staff which is why you have people expert in their fields on staff. This thing is a quagmire. UNH is doing the right thing keeping quiet. It doesn't mean they are not doing anything, just that they are not publicizing it. AD Scarano is as aware as anyone that it would be better to have this resolved with a coach in place.

Jeez, do you think just *maybe* they'd want to let the returning players know what the "ultra double secret" plan might be? Or even the "interim co-head coaches" for that matter, as they've been hung out to dry??

Lots of people right now are in a tough spot - whether it's student-athletes, their coaches and beyond - and are basically "collateral damage" to the decisions made after the Ohio State weekend, and the events that have followed.

There was a LOT of lip service coming from BS35 in the aftermath of the decision to fire Coach McCloskey about doing things "in the best interests of the student-athletes". How is he accomplishing this lofty aim now, exactly??? :confused:

Darius
03-27-2014, 12:07 PM
Jeez, do you think just *maybe* they'd want to let the returning players know what the "ultra double secret" plan might be? Or even the "interim co-head coaches" for that matter, as they've been hung out to dry??

Lots of people right now are in a tough spot - whether it's student-athletes, their coaches and beyond - and are basically "collateral damage" to the decisions made after the Ohio State weekend, and the events that have followed.

There was a LOT of lip service coming from BS35 in the aftermath of the decision to fire Coach McCloskey about doing things "in the best interests of the student-athletes". How is he accomplishing this lofty aim now, exactly??? :confused:I think they do, but can't/have been advised they should not. Any insider knowledge or confidential information shared with students and staff so far has directly or indirectly become public knowledge through reporters and on line discussion boards.

zoofer
03-27-2014, 12:53 PM
Darius, I don't care any more about the legal aspect or what's public or private...an historic program is going down the tubes because of sheer stupidity in the actions of those in power to be PC....enough of this yapping...for UNH to keep silent thru the dismantling of one of its only programs to have one a NC,(yes National because of the schools with teams at the time), is disgraceful!! If UNH thought it was doing poorly with only 1% Alumni donations, lets see what happens after they are ridiculed for sitting, watching and ignoring losing this team!!! Someone please help and do something to save our program!!!